Deretai Kanojo no Uraomote - Vol. 2 Ch. 11

[ranrastel]

This is the "Men bad. Women good." the manga

 

[Banamanana]

I mean, i don't catch the hate on this discussion, in the end they got back talking peaceful, so I would wait next chapter to see if there's a change on girl's attitude towards him.

 

[Ciberr]

I mean, i don't catch the hate on this discussion, in the end they got back talking peaceful, so I would wait next chapter to see if there's a change on girl's attitude towards him.

It's not hard to understand, he got gaslighted by the 2 girls into apologizing when Hyouka is clearly in the wrong and she should be the one to apologize because of her ignoring him and her verbal abuse. What happens here is a really toxic friendship.

 

[xAKLx]

especially if he tried to rebound right back to her the next day like nothing happened, as the bottom of page 29 of this chapter suggests.

No? You are just making up some hard excuses here LMAO. He didn't try to "rebound" because for him nothing ever even changed, she was just his childhood friend, he literally was hanging out with her days before the failed confession. What page 29 is about is that he just went to talk normally with her but she was too sad about him confessing to another girl so SHE started ignoring him.

wdym neither of them is innocent? What did the MC even do????? Liking another girl? 😂 There's no time to get Hyoka to realize she was acting like an asshole because the manga is made so that she never has to apologize for anything.

See how the manga is presenting the MC as the bad one here, for saying that she enjoys looking down on him, when IN THE FIRST CHAPTER she literally says: "Keep living your gloomy little life while glaring jealously at my happy life! Just keep looking up from the bottom" while the whole chapter was about her making fun of him for not having friends, calling him gloomy, and smirking at him when showcasing her new social status while he sits alone. Then putting him down by saying that the guy who confessed to her is handsome unlike the MC.

 

[xAKLx]

I mean, i don't catch the hate on this discussion, in the end they got back talking peaceful, so I would wait next chapter to see if there's a change on girl's attitude towards him.

well, the issue is that the mc had to apologize for something that was the girl's fault, now they are talking peaceful and will pretend that the issue never happened, nobody has witnessed Hyouka being an asshole apart from the MC so nobody is going to criticize her ever (well little sister saw it and immediatelly decided to blame the mc), definitely not after the MC was forced to apologize for telling her the truth

 

[ranrastel]

No? You are just making up some hard excuses here LMAO. He didn't try to "rebound" because for him nothing ever even changed, she was just his childhood friend, he literally was hanging out with her days before the failed confession. What page 29 is about is that he just went to talk normally with her but she was too sad about him confessing to another girl so SHE started ignoring him.

wdym neither of them is innocent? What did the MC even do????? Liking another girl? 😂 There's no time to get Hyoka to realize she was acting like an asshole because the manga is made so that she never has to apologize for anything.

See how the manga is presenting the MC as the bad one here, for saying that she enjoys looking down on him, when IN THE FIRST CHAPTER she literally says: "Keep living your gloomy little life while glaring jealously at my happy life! Just keep looking up from the bottom" while the whole chapter was about her making fun of him for not having friends, calling him gloomy, and smirking at him when showcasing her new social status while he sits alone. Then putting him down by saying that the guy who confessed to her is handsome unlike the MC.

I had to reread chapter 1 again after reading what you said, on the surface it was typical tsundere love comedy stuff but knowing they actually got beef with each other paints it differently now and Hyouka doesnt even apologize.

 

[Azaleal]

is the author's kink verbal abuse or something.?

 

[Wazzaby]

The slop gets sloppier, I'm done with this garbage 😐

 

[RollOmega]

What did the MC even do????? Liking another girl?

As I stated:

it sounds like he'd been blowing Hyouka off and prioritizing this other girl for a while, given "That again!? You've been really distant lately!" on Page 2. (Yes, he says "Just for today, okay?" on Page 3, but we've all seen enough anime and read enough manga to know this is frequently used in situations where issues have been running for longer than just one day.)

Repeatedly blowing off someone you view as a friend to focus your time on someone else you're romantically interested in is shitty behavior. For someone he viewed as a friend, he treated her really poorly, independent of any romantic feelings she had for him.

 

[Coldstar12]

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That warning was so unnecessary it was almost pathetic

 

[Coldstar12]

Thank you for the warning because this chapter pissed me off. "I'm constantly mean to you and that's fine but you said one mean thing and that's a step too far you should have to bow down and apologize" she has never apologized for any of the things she ever said to him. I'm dropping this. I kept reading to this point hoping that FMC would grow as a person and apologize but nope.

That warning was so unnecessary it was almost pathetic

 

[xAKLx]

As I stated:

Repeatedly blowing off someone you view as a friend to focus your time on someone else you're romantically interested in is shitty behavior. For someone he viewed as a friend, he treated her really poorly, independent of any romantic feelings she had for him.

He didn't treat her poorly tho? He just didn't spend all of his free time with her, and he was still clearly hanging around with Hyouka, and she was the one who stopped it

 

[MesaOracle]

I didn't see what there was to be upset about. It's just an adult writing teenagers being teenagers from their own limited perspective from when they were growing up. That is always bound to be a bit of a mess and each person will feel differently about it.

 

[RollOmega]

He didn't treat her poorly tho? He just didn't spend all of his free time with her, and he was still clearly hanging around with Hyouka, and she was the one who stopped it

We obviously don't have any details (yet?), but we do know that, however he was treating her, it upset her enough that she said something about it ("That again!? You've been really distant lately!"), and we know that he brushed those concerns off ("Just for today, okay?"). If any given reader wants to believe she must have been upset over nothing and her concerns weren't valid, then that's their prerogative, but I simply can't agree with that assumption based on their respective pre-confession behaviors.

 

[Alton93]

Now that is a good warning page because fuck her!

 

[SYLOK]

wow this writing is something else man

 

[FloorRoof]

teenagers being teenagers

Yeah, reading that part felt way too realistic. It's this emotional, unreasonable, petty, stubborn, irritable, self-centered youthful temperament that drives kiddos into ridiculous drama on regular basis. There's a certain nostalgic quality to this noise.

 

[Jojo-san]

That's it, I drop this.

If Hyouka acknowledged her own fault too, I would have been ok with it.
But no, author is saying "it's always the guy's fault, even if the girl has a shitty behavior".

So f*ck Hyouka and this manga.

 

[ysil69]

And that's a 1 baby. Bitch had the audacity to fucking whine and cry, never once realizing what she did wrong or offer her own apology. And then spineless simp goes "oh it's all my fault."

 

[Eija]

ok, like... as much as this guy absolutely shouldnt be apologising and this is bullshit writing-wise and all that... is this also suddenly drawn worse than before, or is that just me? i genuinely could barely focus on the dialogue cause the characters kept looking weirdly-placed and/or off-model to me, and i truly dont know if im just being stupid or not