A Splendid Revenge Story of a Super-Dreadnought Cheat Villainess - Vol. 5 Ch. 19 - Cracked Mirror

[Sam_Lingdis]

Well, I found manga authors almost never (with ONE memorable exception) get what actually Paladins/Holy Knights and Priests are about, they think gods are stupid or something and cannot go "What God giveth, God taketh away" at the first sign of fuckery. This personally irks me to no end as a longtime TTRPG Paladin(s) player.

You know what, I had the same grief.

Tho most media I consume, it's mostly, there's no god, only religion, so the situation make sense somewhat.

 

[Forikorder]

Well, I found manga authors almost never (with ONE memorable exception) get what actually Paladins/Holy Knights and Priests are about, they think gods are stupid or something and cannot go "What God giveth, God taketh away" at the first sign of fuckery. This personally irks me to no end as a longtime TTRPG Paladin(s) player.

IMO there are very few stories where the power is a literal gift from god, a lot of the time they use "holy" magic which is just magic like any other but proclaim themselves to be the chosen of god

 

[izumabakumatsu]

It's been a long time since I read the WN but genuinely I don't remember this Pukuru character. Was it something that got changed when it got published as LN or maybe it's changes to the manga? Anyway, I'm loving it.

 

[Kreceir]

SURELY the braindead background fodder won't think again shes some villainess after she has proven AGAIN that she is innocent and that there are people trying to falsely accuse of her crimes she didn't commit, right? Right??

What am I saying... ofcourse not.

I'm feeling sorry for the familiar that gets physically and mentally abused... Can someone spoil me if Pukuru gets saved or not? Or atleast put it out of its misery.

 

[OmegaDragon]

that poor stuffed rabbit

Poor?
That thing chooses to be with her.
That thing was the one responsible planting that stupid idea in her head.
And it still believes that she should be getting her happy end.
It only believes is what it knows, anything beyond that is not part of it's programme.

 

[Retro68]

SURELY the braindead background fodder won't think again shes some villainess after she has proven AGAIN that she is innocent and that there are people trying to falsely accuse of her crimes she didn't commit, right? Right??

What am I saying... ofcourse not.

I'm feeling sorry for the familiar that gets physically and mentally abused... Can someone spoil me if Pukuru gets saved or not? Or atleast put it out of its misery.

My thoughts exactly. It never ceases to amaze me in these types of manga that even when a "Villainess" proves herself innocent MULTIPLE TIMES, yet everyone seems to readily believe she's the culprit any time she stands accused of something. Does the concept of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" not exist in Japan?

 

[isoycrazy]

My thoughts exactly. It never ceases to amaze me in these types of manga that even when a "Villainess" proves herself innocent MULTIPLE TIMES, yet everyone seems to readily believe she's the culprit any time she stands accused of something. Does the concept of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" not exist in Japan?

Are you sure that's the moral of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf"? I followed Garak's position that the true moral is never tell the same lie twice.

 

[Retro68]

Are you sure that's the moral of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf"? I followed Garak's position that the true moral is never tell the same lie twice.

Hmmm, maybe it's a regional thing then, I dunno?

 

[Archfuchs]

God of this world: You suffered greatly in your old life, dying by that truck hitting you, and we will reincarnate you to this world where you will have a chance at true love. Good luck, Saint.

Now reborn,
Mana: I am the Saint and nothing will stop me from screwing the Prince! I will sacrifice any of you stupid fools to get my way!

God: Well.... fuck. Maybe the driver had been justified in running her over?

The thing is, she could f.ck around with the prince all day without picking fights with Lunaria.
Even before the reincarnation, the prince was already into her. In fact, that would be great for Lunaria if she just stole the prince, since it would give Lunaria a reason to push the royal family and Mana would still have the prince by the leash

 

[Korvalus]

You know what, I had the same grief.

Tho most media I consume, it's mostly, there's no god, only religion, so the situation make sense somewhat.

In many cases, it would make sense, but when there are gods present it's pretty jarring it happens.

IMO there are very few stories where the power is a literal gift from god,

The vast majority of "isekai cheats" and many other "holy" powers and "job systems" (groan) on other fantasy mangas are outright stated or shown to come from deities, and powerful ones at that.

a lot of the time they use "holy" magic which is just magic like any other but proclaim themselves to be the chosen of god

In those cases I understand (barely) that there's no counter to balance the characters', but in those cases there are entities bestowing those powers it's jarring authors doesn't use that. You could think that the authors would think these beings are not brain-dead and put a measure of counter just in case their blessed misuse their gifts, but I guess that narrative balance would run against the intended "unmatched over-power fantasy".

 

[whermit]

It was already pretty sus she was the one who pointed out the certainty that the culprit was using countermeasures like potions to camouflage magic traces. Surprised no one in the story picked that hint up

 

[BlackAeronaut]

The thing is, she could f.ck around with the prince all day without picking fights with Lunaria.
Even before the reincarnation, the prince was already into her. In fact, that would be great for Lunaria if she just stole the prince, since it would give Lunaria a reason to push the royal family and Mana would still have the prince by the leash

The problem there is that this would make Mana the next Queen.

And Lunaria would still be a Duchess.

Granted, you can't really depose of a Ducal family and not have repercussions from that act. After all, if the other Ducal families catch even the faintest whiff of something smelling off about this, they're gonna know that there's nothing keeping them safe. And they will act accordingly.

But Mana doesn't exactly strike me as being quite so forward thinking. She'll want to get rid of Lunaria no matter what simply because she is the "Villainess", and that's what's supposed to happen in the perfect little world of the otome game. She doesn't care at all that Lunaria is a Duchess or that she has been making absolutely no overtures for the Prince's heart, let alone the hearts of any of the other capture targets. Even if she knew of Lunaria's true origins and intentions, she'd be all, "SEE! SEE! SHE'S EVIL! I'M JUSTIFIED!!!"

 

[Khaoticsuccubus]

In many cases, it would make sense, but when there are gods present it's pretty jarring it happens.


The vast majority of "isekai cheats" and many other "holy" powers and "job systems" (groan) on other fantasy mangas are outright stated or shown to come from deities, and powerful ones at that.

In those cases I understand (barely) that there's no counter to balance the characters', but in those cases there are entities bestowing those powers it's jarring authors doesn't use that. You could think that the authors would think these beings are not brain-dead and put a measure of counter just in case their blessed misuse their gifts, but I guess that narrative balance would run against the intended "unmatched over-power fantasy".

Not everyone uses things like DnD as their source material for ideas. In the west, World of Warcraft for example has paladins and they can do whatever they want for the most part. Plenty of evil paladins that torture and murder innocents in the name of the light there. In Japan's case however, a paladin is just a knight that can use holy/light attribute magic. That's all there is to it.

 

[SonicWizard]

anticlimactic end to some incredibly contrived drama.

 

[Clover_Zero]

The original mc (or the reincarnator) is actually cool, vile, and conniving. Making her a better villainous than most villainous manga mcs.

Still a bit too comical and over-the-top for my tastes, though. Like some other one-dimensional "OGFL/saintess is the actual villain" characters. Then again, you can say this manga is over-the-top, especially with all the expressions (which I like lol).

 

[Moridin69]

If having the commoners adore the 'heroine' was all it took for her to go on the 'prince route', I think she's plenty capable of doing that without needing to make the 'villainess' an evil villainess that needed to be condemned. Heck, I think a 'true saint(ess)' is one who is able to make peace with their enemies and love them, but that doesn't totally absolve them of whatever crimes they committed that must be atoned for, of course.

Nonetheless, this 'heroine' here is just wracking up the crimes she committed before it all falls on her.

Yeah, the weird part is Mana didn't need to do any of this at all. In most of these otome villainess setups, the isekai'd villainess changes things so she isn't hated by the capture targets and others, making it far harder for the Saintess to make inroads. In this case, the Crown Prince basically already hates her. The other targets were barely even mentioned and have yet to make any appearance. The MC has almost no friends outside her fellow ducal heirs (though she has slowly made a few additional friends since day 1).

Hell, if the Saintess just concentrated on seducing the prince, the other ducal families should even be normally backing the annulment the Prince would request with MC, as having 1 of the 4 ducal houses marry into the royal family and become queen would completely unbalance the current political situation in favor of the royal family and the ducal queen over them.