Isekai ni Shoukan Saretan Dakedo, Nandemo Kireteshimau Kennou o Teni Ireta node Easy Mode Deshita. - Ch. 16

[sanctuary]

God forbid women have any ambitions

Women moment in manga and sjw moment in comment section.

Yeah I thought we left that nonsense in 2024.

 

[VooXoo]

Whelp, I was expecting it, it happened, and we’re moving on from the most mind-bending shit to happen in this series

Edit: wait, couldn’t he just order her to not have any evil intent towards him?

There are 2 possible outcomes to that order,she would be permanent y brainwashed or her hostility in that chapter would dissapear and the order would be complete there, that would mean she could restart planning the day after.
This wife order instead seems to work in she acting like the perfect waifu would, how she imagine it, so when one day her aktered persona thinks to have become the ideal wife for MC she should break free from the order, I dont think she will forget how she acted, so it will be a development between she accepting her altered feelings or start a new plan.

 

[Kreate]

What an incredibly boring turn of events and way for things to play out. Story straight up lost 4-5 points out of 10. Lost 1 of its two protagonist and 1 of like the only 4 characters in the story.

 

[The_H_Guy]

I Wonder if it would been better if he gave her the choice to leave before destroying her free will

Giving her an order, whatever it is, already deprive her of her free will. That's the reason why he refrained by doing that.
I think people is missing the point. She is just obeying an order. She have not her memories erased. Not her personality overwritten. Her behaviour is conditioned by the order of being "a devoted wife". But this is not a redo thing.
What Keyaru did in redo was to completely remove her memories and install a completely different personality. While Shizuka is only forced to be behave "nice", but she is still herself.

 

[Chaos47]

Yep, this was as dumb as people made it out to be in the spoilers. Way to ruin a perfectly good psychotic yandere character. What was the point of this? What is the point of this story going forward? What is the endgame? Is he still going to play the part of the "convenient super powered weapon" for the country that kidnaped him? Man, these two chapters truly are the worst.

 

[Chaos47]

To be fair, in this scenario, there are no "good guys".

It was fine for her to gain independence as she initially was saying, but then she started talking about making him her sex slave, which is a no no.

And in his case, he could have just broke up with her, let her have her freedom, without the need for making her a brainwashed slave. And, if for whatever reason she became a threat to others, he could have just "cut" her powers away to stop her, again without the need to brainwash her.

He talked WAY more about how he didn't want other men to have her, her betrayal was of no threat to him, he just wanted to keep his meat trophy no matter what.

How is he going to let her have her freedom? It's not up to him to set her free apparently. Also, letting her go would allow her to continue scheming to eventually take him out. Cutting her powers off would leave her vulnerable to getting enslaved again, since, you know, the world doesn't really allow women to be free, and she would eventually end up as someone else's property, which is something MC can't stand. Other than killing her, freedom was never an option for this woman, and now, she has to sit back and watch as her body moves and acts against her will (since her original personality seems to still be alive and well deep down in her subconscious, it's probably a living hell).

 

[Bachenaugen]

I were all hoping that it wouldn't come to this. Because another series, Villainess Level 99 ~I May Be the Hidden Boss but I'm Not the Demon Lord~, was confirmed to have different routes between the novel, anime, and manga.

Instead, author pulled something that Neil Druckmann would be proud of: They stuck to their canon.

 

[exxeld]

wild turn of events but was this some wild 4d chess by shizuku to become a devoted wife or something by forcing mc to activate the slave clause lol or was she really just that dumb

 

[Asynchrobatic]

Difference is that in Redo the story makes no attempt to hide that what he does is evil. He does not gaslight himself into being the "good guy" like the MC of this story does.

The protag of Redo knows he is doing evil and relishes in it without any bullshit. (Well, in the beginning of the story at least.)

Does the MC ever say he's the good guy? He could've done many things if he wanted to act like "the good guy," but he doesn't; he just does as he desires.

 

[Bricksandstuff]

He is guided by the light of monogamy.

Peak

 

[24HourCinderella]

God forbid women have any ambitions

Nice bait, gave me a good chuckle

 

[LoupDeGarou]

are people actually surprised by how she behaved in this chapter? Chapter 1 already showed us that she's a calculative person.
she knew that she had to control her man with her body or else she'd be the only losing party.
In chapter 4 she herself said that she accepted him just so he protects her. She always was a selfish person who only did stuff to help her survive.

 

[Seifenbroten]

You can tell that the author doesn't get any Bitches.

 

[Demavend]

God forbid women have any ambitions

This gave me a good chuckle props to you.

 

[booterror]

Someone let their pussy write a check they did not have sufficient authority in the bank to cash.

And fucking mind wiping her with the slave command? Bruhhhhh you should've chopped her into dogfood, found a new big titty waifu and continued on

 

[Belkin]

Unfortunately, it's actually consistent, though admittedly very jarring.

If you go back to her introduction and also the event with the orc king, whether it's in the manga or the novel, it's made very clear that she is introduced as a calculating woman and that she believes she could potentially start to actually love the MC, indicating that she doesn't truly fully love him yet.

And as for the orc situation, her survival instinct is what drove her into a frenzy of sucking and fucking her way into protection. Of course, the betrayal is pretty much heavily accelerated with little hinting about it before it suddenly happened. But you can see how the gears are spinning in her head and figure that once she had enough power for herself, she no longer had that instinctive need for him as her mate and since at most she had a fondness for him prior to the orc attack that disrupted the flow at which she might've slowly developed real love for him, it got flipped immediately to instinctive survival and wild mating with abandon to chain him to her.

Basically. She was always a manipulative girl to begin with and we're just seeing her true nature peak through for the first time outside of her mind. It's just that she's really bad at being a backstabbing mastermind.

A friend helped his ex to open her dream store, he did all paperwork and heavy lifting to get a loan from the state approved. when she got the money, she straight up fucking dumped him. So i dont find her character to be that unbelievable.

 

[ScryedParadox]

A friend helped his ex to open her dream store, he did all paperwork and heavy lifting to get a loan from the state approved. when she got the money, she straight up fucking dumped him. So i dont find her character to be that unbelievable.

Her character is far from unbelievable. Again, even in fiction she's consistent. The key has always been her introduction and internal monologue, as she herself acknowledges that she's a calculating woman, ergo manipulative. But since little was leading up to it, despite it being slightly foreshadowed long ago, I can understand how it comes across as jarring.

In effect, there is little different from her and the type of girl who screws her way into higher positions of power... Y'know, like the HR head who had an affair with the Astronomer CEO who got caught in a Coldplay concert recently, leading to both of them getting fired by the board of directors. Now whether or not she had honest feelings for him matters little, the fact still remains she got in a relationship with someone in power who elevated her own power too.

Also my sympathies to your buddy. Remember to always keep it professional when it comes to business. Whether it's with a friend or with a lover, if you go into business together, you better make an objective cold solid contract so that neither of you can get screwed. Any objection to that is suspect. Like when someone tries to tell you how much of a turn off and how unromantic signing a prenup is. I mean marriage already involves a lot of documentation and legal papers, what's wrong with a prenuptial ensuring that both parties are protected accordingly? A person who truly loves you and intends to be with you for life should not be afraid of that. And that goes regardless of who the bread winner is in the relationship.

 

[ScryedParadox]

Difference is that in Redo the story makes no attempt to hide that what he does is evil. He does not gaslight himself into being the "good guy" like the MC of this story does.

The protag of Redo knows he is doing evil and relishes in it without any bullshit. (Well, in the beginning of the story at least.)

I'm revisiting this thread and discovering that, unsurprisingly, a lot of discussion is happening in particular due to both the betrayal and the resolution of it.

But that aside. I want to point out some of the more recent chapters where Keyaruga of Redo of Healer literally attempted to use the "Power of Friendship" trope, despite half of his harem basically being brainwashed. Very hilarious moment.

Also to be fair, while he is engaging in objectively evil actions, he's also in a really screwed up world where his usage of the philosopher stone paired with his healing ability in his role as the healing hero basically thematically gave him the ultimate power of healing the rotten world he's in through the most drastic healing method there is, himself. He is ultimately causing more objective good to that screwed up world than bad. Similar to Raoul's revenge rampage in "The Strongest Hero Who Longs For Revenge Will Peerlessly Annihilate With The Power Of Darkness".

Although in this case, here in this manga, we're mostly just dealing with a godly undefeatable entity with the MC and he's acting and behaving far more for his own benefit which still puts into question whether or not he's actually doing any good to the world around himself or not, while being in a rotten system but also taking advantage of the rotten system he's in, similar to "Astro King - Summoned as a Hero, I Turned Out to Be Low Rank, so I Made a Maid Harem!" where the MC takes full advantage of the system there, but instead of focusing on a single menhera waifu, he goes the full harem route.

 

[EchoGirl]

"I liked the old shizuka better" So couldn't he just command her to have the same personality minus another betrayal attempt...?

 

[SatouPendragonlvl313]

Corollary of Briffault's Law:

“Even though a woman has accrued past benefits from her relationship with a man, this is no guarantee of her continuing the relationship with him." (Translation: What have you done for me lately?)