Well yes, critizing the current state of a character not expecting the character to grow later is indeed hate. One thing would be to say "this character is making mistakes or their attitude is not good" and another is to claim it is a bad character.
The others haven't pushed back because it hasn't been a problem to them, we can clearly see they are treating her as Chii just being Chii. It is actually very normal to tolerate and even like the attitude of people you like until it affects you. Until they actually feel her attitude is preventing them of doing their own things, or notice it is truly hurting her, they'll continue to play along to whatever she says. We are building up to tat boiling point. Either Tokio will manage to reach her before it happens, as the one that is more aware of her emotional and mental state, or she'll be reprimanded by her friends and forced to progress with the help of Tokio.
once again, you're saying I said things, that I haven't.
The
only thing I said was that I disagreed that Chiita was showcasing growth up to this point in the series.
If criticizing a character's lack of growth within a narrative that is meant to have an actual passing of time and change for the characters within the story is "hate", then I fear we're at a complete impasse on whether or not any criticism is "valid" when it's not purely positive.
I didn't say she was a bad character. Maybe I missed something in the three posts I've made on this particular chapter; please do find that sentence for me since you're convinced I've written it out and show me, because I'm at a loss as to why you're reiterating that I did.
The rest of what you said doesn't mesh with what I'd stated, either. You claim that her expressing resistance to change is her "first step" in growth. I stated that she's been at that point for quite a number of chapters' worth of story, because chapter 202 wasn't the first time she'd made that complaint - meaning she's been in stasis at that point for a
while now, with no hint of either getting past it herself, or any of the other characters pushing that point.
If we're "building up to tat[sic] boiling point" , then at the risk of repeating myself,
what I'm saying is moot.
My
entire reason for commenting was because the other individual made a claim that sounded like Chiita had been showing growth in the
past tense by this chapter - as in active strides in developing as a person within the narrative, and I contested that I disagreed because of 1) how I interpret "growth of a character", and 2) because
if you want to claim "complaining about change" is step 1, then she's been at step one since the chapter way back when she was just with Tokio going around eating a bunch of food and complaining about her YT channel not getting anywhere.
I cited examples from ch.202 as reasons for Chiita having still not shown the growth that was claimed, and how other characters aren't acting upon her or pushing her toward growth, either. I didn't comment on whether or not they were correct to, or whether or not their skinship was good or bad - only that they weren't signs of her growing or addressing the things she's upset about, merely continuing to whine about being left behind and trying to keep her relationship with Anjou and Toyoda the same as it's always been.
If you want to bring up the fact that Seto or Anjou isn't "getting the same level of hate", then take it up elsewhere; the original comment was about Chiita, and Chiita is the focus of what I wrote. The other characters, and other readers' opinions of them, have no bearing on what I was saying this entire time.
Are you reading other peoples' comments here and assuming I'm echoing the things they're saying? I'm just at a loss as to why you've decided to single me out specifically and then get my actual arguments wrong
twice now.
I don't care about Chiita as a character beyond that, nor do I let my personal opinions of the archetype of character she represents color my analysis of her as she relates to the ongoing general plot of the story.
