Mangadex to purge titles for legal reasons

[DavidianMillerian]

Yes, it was uncalled for. I and several staff members wish she hadn't said that. I can't change the past, you can choose to believe in her apology or not. She's not getting demoted or removed over it. I'm not mad about it, but I think it's understandable that other people are. The choice to remove the content was unrelated to her or any staff member's personal opinion of the content.

wait, EN's a she?

 

[seekermoc]

wasn't he raided?

As I remember, the old BATO admin made a post talking about how he was just tired of trying to manage the community and deal with aggregators stealing their work and wanted to stop. He left the site up for around a week after the announcement so people could export their bookmarks, but then it disappeared. MD was up and running a couple weeks later.

AFAIK there was no legal action behind it.

 

[Pauan]

Yes, much like you choose to follow laws instead of going to jail. Or how you choose to remove dozens of titles instead of blocking millions of users. Or how you choose to be obtuse about wording to post passive-agressive replies instead of using reasonable common sense interpratation.

Enjoy losing everything, because you chose to cater to evil anti-freedom totalitarian countries, and betrayed all of your users, and betrayed all of your founding principles, and chose to lie and gaslight your users, and chose to insult your users when they correctly pointed out your blatant lies.

Without your users, this site will not survive.

 

[PilotNOT]

Australia, UK, Canada to name a few.

Cuckstralia and United Middle East, after all the news about them wanting to censor the very free nature of otaku spaces, yet you still want to conform to them?

Yes, much like you choose to follow laws instead of going to jail. Or how you choose to remove dozens of titles instead of blocking millions of users. Or how you choose to be obtuse about wording to post passive-agressive replies instead of using reasonable common sense interpratation.

All you had to do was to stay in America but no you wanted to come to my shitty country and block countries wanting to enforce their bullshit on you but nah you rather be a cuck

 

[WiseOldKing]

ya so can we like turn back on the ability to delete our accounts?

 

[BestBoy]

incidentally

Eh, I can't blame them for removing mentions of other pirate sites if they're coming off the back of a massive DMCA and trying to keep a low profile.
The end goal of all these policies is to keep as many series as possible while still respecting any legal claims sent their way. I know it sounds contradictory, but just look at some of the sites that took the opposite path. comick and new batoto (and all its sister sites) are completely gone

 

[deleted-user-489d1bc1cf]

I suggest everyone sort by Rating and file a report for every manga that has underage sexualization.
So many of their top mangas are gonna get nuked off the site and they need to see that.

Honestly, yeah if this is the policy decision and this comes from a legal threat I think we need to help the mods find each and every single series that might be an issue, I would add that not only should popular titles be reported but everything that has any minor being sexualized in any ways; as said mods need to decide on a case by case basis and there's about 313 pages of suggestive titles to review.

By the way is a minor under 18 or under 21? I don't really know the jurisdiction but that's the advantage of deciding case by case I guess, again good call to everyone involved.

 

[PilotNOT]

wait, EN's a she?

or a "she"

 

[B4z73rd]

Australia, UK, Canada to name a few.


The stray cat girl series contained a high-school girl, which was ambiguous enough to be included. I'm not aware of any official content confirming her as over 18 and the scanlator did not provide any when I spoke to them.



Please see:


I won't bother with further "what about x series" replies.


If you believe there is anything wrong with what you quoted, spell it out. I don't mind replying if people are being civil, but if you're just gonna vaguepost and insult me you're just getting banned.


MD is a non-profit project, but the costs are still running. We gotta do what we gotta do. And as stated back in the takedown FAQ, one of the reasons for coming under NC management was due to the legal framework to handle claims like these.


Yes, it was uncalled for. I and several staff members wish she hadn't said that. I can't change the past, you can choose to believe in her apology or not. She's not getting demoted or removed over it. I'm not mad about it, but I think it's understandable that other people are. The choice to remove the content was unrelated to her or any staff member's personal opinion of the content.


Yes, much like you choose to follow laws instead of going to jail. Or how you choose to remove dozens of titles instead of blocking millions of users. Or how you choose to be obtuse about wording to post passive-agressive replies instead of using reasonable common sense interpratation.

Eh, the ambiguity of Stray Cat Girl could've made it been excluded, but that's just me. This whole thing reminds me of the Cinderella Girl character Aiko Takamori being labeled with a loli tag on e-hentai.org, and the tags got removed. You host other series that are similar to Stray Cat Girl. It's pointless and irrelevant argument that I'm hearing.

 

[BestBoy]

ya so can we like turn back on the ability to delete our accounts?

Mods mentioned recently it was coming soon on discord, but who knows. Last I heard account deletion breaks large parts of the website.

 

[deleted-user-f488881bc9]

Eh, the ambiguity of Stray Cat Girl could've made it been excluded, but that's just me. This whole thing reminds me of the Cinderella Girl character Aiko Takamori being labeled with a loli tag on e-hentai.org, and the tags got removed. You host other series that are similar to Stray Cat Girl. It's pointless and irrelevant argument that I'm hearing.

consider e-h have sadpanda that allow loli, it should be fine on sadpanda, right? or they just block both?

 

[Miros]

Honestly, yeah if this is the policy decision and this comes from a legal threat I think we need to help the mods find each and every single series that might be an issue, I would add that not only should popular titles be reported but everything that has any minor being sexualized in any ways; as said mods need to decide on a case by case basis and there's about 313 pages of suggestive titles to review.

By the way is a minor under 18 or under 21? I don't really know the jurisdiction but that's the advantage of deciding case by case I guess, again good call to everyone involved.

"legal threat" isn't this whole site a big ass legal problem, this isn't mangaplus everything thing here is "illegal"

 

[Straif_Sitri]

Honestly, yeah if this is the policy decision and this comes from a legal threat I think we need to help the mods find each and every single series that might be an issue, I would add that not only should popular titles be reported but everything that has any minor being sexualized in any ways; as said mods need to decide on a case by case basis and there's about 313 pages of suggestive titles to review.

By the way is a minor under 18 or under 21? I don't really know the jurisdiction but that's the advantage of deciding case by case I guess, again good call to everyone involved.

for Minors its basically anything that depicts someone in highschool or younger so something like Freezing which has over 200 chapters on this site is going to be deleted because it dipicts highschoolers in sexual situations

 

[seekermoc]

Australia, UK, Canada to name a few.

The stray cat girl series contained a high-school girl, which was ambiguous enough to be included. I'm not aware of any official content confirming her as over 18 and the scanlator did not provide any when I spoke to them.

I won't bother with further "what about x series" replies.

MD is a non-profit project, but the costs are still running. We gotta do what we gotta do. And as stated back in the takedown FAQ, one of the reasons for coming under NC management was due to the legal framework to handle claims like these.

This doesn't answer any questions, and seems to be intentionally evasive to downright dismissive of honest user questions.

Why does it matter if it's illegal in the UK, CAN, AUS? This is a US-based site operating under US laws (according to the site terms). Why does it matter whether you can "operate" in those countries, and what does "operate" even mean? Why not just host servers literally anywhere else in the world where there's no problem, and let those countries decide if they want to ban MD IPs like most of the rest of Europe already has?

Why does MD need NamiComi to handle takedown requests? Why of all the other manga hosts was NamiComi chosen? Why had nobody even heard of NamiComi before they took over MD? What relationship is there between MD admins and NamiComi ownership? Is this whole issue because MD needs to be "clean" so it can transition to a for-profit business?

I also didn't ask anything like "what about X series" and any attempts to frame it as such are disingenuous. My question is "what about literally half of MD content that could fall under these rules," which is a very relevant question that NEEDS to be answered.

 

[Bronadian]

I just want to remind everyone that the site's in this mess because a certain admin created NamiComi as a side hustle and used Mangadex to drive traffic to it.

It gets difficult to dance around legality when you throw OpSec to the wind for a few bucks.

 

[WhiteRaven_OfTheValley]

Australia, UK, Canada to name a few.


The stray cat girl series contained a high-school girl, which was ambiguous enough to be included. I'm not aware of any official content confirming her as over 18 and the scanlator did not provide any when I spoke to them.



Please see:


I won't bother with further "what about x series" replies.


If you believe there is anything wrong with what you quoted, spell it out. I don't mind replying if people are being civil, but if you're just gonna vaguepost and insult me you're just getting banned.


MD is a non-profit project, but the costs are still running. We gotta do what we gotta do. And as stated back in the takedown FAQ, one of the reasons for coming under NC management was due to the legal framework to handle claims like these.


Yes, it was uncalled for. I and several staff members wish she hadn't said that. I can't change the past, you can choose to believe in her apology or not. She's not getting demoted or removed over it. I'm not mad about it, but I think it's understandable that other people are. The choice to remove the content was unrelated to her or any staff member's personal opinion of the content.


Yes, much like you choose to follow laws instead of going to jail. Or how you choose to remove dozens of titles instead of blocking millions of users. Or how you choose to be obtuse about wording to post passive-agressive replies instead of using reasonable common sense interpratation.

This isn't making anything better, if not adding more napalm to the fire.

 

[DavidianMillerian]

I just want to remind everyone that the site's in this mess because a certain admin created NamiComi as a side hustle and used Mangadex to drive traffic to it.

Alright. Show me your evidence.

And no, EtherealNeko being from NamiComi doesn't count as evidence.

 

[bep]

Australia, UK, Canada to name a few.

Yes, much like you choose to follow laws instead of going to jail. Or how you choose to remove dozens of titles instead of blocking millions of users. Or how you choose to be obtuse about wording to post passive-agressive replies instead of using reasonable common sense interpratation.

This is interesting, last I checked knowingly hosting, distributing, and promoting pirated content is illegal in those areas and will have you taken to court.
Can you please tell us who we need to contact in order to help you guys remove all the illicit and illegal material from the site? Wouldn't want you guys to get fined and sent to prison for breaking IP laws.

 

[hibikiyamada]

It's extremely telling that, despite all the moderator/staff responses, we still have no idea who's requesting these removals and what's being planned for when they eventually order for more removals to be done. How much content needs to be deleted off the platform before it's too much? Sure it's case-by-case, but the reasons behind said removals can be applied to the vast majority of the works available on the site. Why is this point constantly being ignored? This is a website that exists solely due to the support that its users have given, what is with the lack of transparency?

Just recently, Brown Dust 2 (a gacha game) almost had to censor their entire game globally just because Germany decided to go after them for the content in their game. You know what they did after severe backlash? They just censored the offending aspects of the game for users located in Germany. What's stopping the team from just making it so that the removed works just can't be viewed by users within the country that's apparently pressuring you whilst allowing everyone else access to the content?

Edit: If you then say "it violates our policy so those works wouldn't be allowed anyway" then you'd have to remove 80% of the content available on the platform.

 

[deleted-user-dadbe21bcd]

You want compliance? Bring back our ability to delete our MangaDex account, you're not in compliance with the GDPR.