Touge Oni - Vol. 8 Ch. 34 - Ceremony of Presentation

[MangaDex]

 

[notsnip]

All the credit goes to an anon from /a/ translating the chapter (a different anon from chapter 33)
And I add my gratitude to also, to the typesetting anon, and to all the other anons pestering the Translation anon.
Love you all.

Spoiler: The lore of chapter 34

Btw, if anyone will ever want to upload the next chapters, feel free to, the first to upload the chapter, does it.
The sacred treasure page was left out again, anyone fixing that later on, let me know, so I can add that final page to the chapter here.

 

[cryum]

World of Ruin

The gods really just left this boring emperor puppet for 30 years to digivolve into an interesting cynical poet

 

[HCO]

Holy escalation.

 

[episode]

So the past where he altered and deemed not enough actually got carried to the future where man-grass truly lost all mantras? I love this author man

 

[quser]

KIN-OH!

 

[CheesiBoye]

I keep forgetting just how sci fi this plot is

 

[MagnaDrake]

I can never wrap my head around time travel shenanigans.

 

[ipmanvsthemask]

Page 46 is actually https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakinomoto_no_Hitomaro @notsnip it was actually updated in the dump thread.

 

[alacaelum]

Ryuuboshi survived 30 years in a hellscape where people lost the capacity for higher thought... man, i respect the perseverance.

I knew Kozumi love for the gods was sincere... but such "love" stopped extending for his own people, I do not and can not respect that.

He feels contempt for the roots of his life, because he couldn't deal with grief.

And... he isn't even from so far away in the future.

Man... this author knows how to deal with "time travel"... most author trivialise it so much, or leave out how mindbending alternate realities would be for the mind to comprehend.

 

[Ironclad]

Why only 30 years in the past? Why not start a millennia ago when the gods were at their peak? What was the urgency to petrify them then and there?

 

[phiuer]

Why did the sennin deemed this is a failure ? Because not all of Yamato had their brain emptied and heaven already discovered his plot ? So the wild human we see must still had their brain intact, just grow up without proper education and development, I guess. But then why that Ryubou didn't educate the wild human ?

 

[azer89]

Back to the Future!!!

 

[AsianThonk]

Why only 30 years in the past? Why not start a millennia ago when the gods were at their peak? What was the urgency to petrify them then and there?

What past? Read again, its 30 years 'in the future'. They basically got put into a cryo chamber but its stone

 

[Ironclad]

What past? Read again, its 30 years 'in the future'. They basically got put into a cryo chamber but its stone

I mean why did Kozumi perform his offering only 30 years in the past. We've seen that sacred treasure easily bring people back to millions of years ago.

Why did the sennin deemed this is a failure ? Because not all of Yamato had their brain emptied and heaven already discovered his plot ? So the wild human we see must still had their brain intact, just grow up without proper education and development, I guess. But then why that Ryubou didn't educate the wild human ?

You've completely missed the point. Only sentient creatures create mantra. Kozumi planned to reduce all of Japan to mindless apes (not vegetables) so they would no longer befoul the gods with their bad mantra. It was a failure as long as there are humans who can create mantra in Japan. I think there's a major flaw in his plan though. Can the gods exist without anyone to remember them at all?

 

[notsnip]

So the wild human we see must still had their brain intact, just grow up without proper education and development, I guess. But then why that Ryubou didn't educate the wild human ?

Mantra was explained first by Kozumi (I can't remember in which chapter, must have been the first time he met with Miyo), and later it was explained also by Susano-o in chapter 29

Spoiler: mantra in chapter 29

Mantra is described as the ability to shape your own fate, or the ability to change, the ability to wish and the change your life to fulfil those wishes.
For humans to lose their mantra, it means they can't change anymore, they don't have the capacity to wish anything, they can't shape their lives. So it's not that the wild humans are just without an education, it's that the wild humans can no longer change, they can no longer even become more educated if someone taught them, they will remain wild forever.

 

[notsnip]

The chapter where Kozumi talks about mantra was chapter 23

Spoiler: mantra in chapter 23

Kozumi describes mantra to be closer to thought. The thoughts which shape the world, and shape humans themselves.
And he removed all of it, or tried to, and got close to removing it all.

Hitokotonushi (the dragon kami of the wishes, the one Kozumi is simping for, and stealing brains for) also hinted about the mantra of humans being what gives shape to the kami. Which would be the reason for the illness of Hitokotonushi, she's decaying because of the mantras of the humans in that time, because humans no longer care about the kami, so she is "losing shape" and falling apart because no one is giving her shape (that may have been in chapter 22)

 

[MilkDrinker]

The chapter where Kozumi talks about mantra was chapter 23

Spoiler: mantra in chapter 23

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I love this series of pages. It's so good!

 

[RealLotto]

Ryuuboshi survived 30 years in a hellscape where people lost the capacity for higher thought... man, i respect the perseverance.

I knew Kozumi love for the gods was sincere... but such "love" stopped extending for his own people, I do not and can not respect that.

He feels contempt for the roots of his life, because he couldn't deal with grief.

And... he isn't even from so far away in the future.

Man... this author knows how to deal with "time travel"... most author trivialise it so much, or leave out how mindbending alternate realities would be for the mind to comprehend.

Considering that Kozumi "transcended" humanity I don't think he considers himself human anymore, therefore whatever happens to human is of no concern to him. He evolved from human, like human evolved from apes, and like human who do not consider apes our kind, he wouldn't consider human as his kinds.

 

[alacaelum]

Considering that Kozumi "transcended" humanity I don't think he considers himself human anymore, therefore whatever happens to human is of no concern to him. He evolved from human, like human evolved from apes, and like human who do not consider apes our kind, he wouldn't consider human as his kinds.

I know that is how he sees that... but that isn't the truth.

Apes do not have the same capacity for thought as humans, they are more capable than some animals, but they still don't have human "higher thought".

Kozumi certainly can understand certain concepts of reality better than most humans... but he is still human, he simply is a "strong exemplar", and that... is his folly.

He distanced himself from his own race because he became arrogant and unsympathetic, he decided to deny the "higher thought" of others simply because of his own circumstances.

He "recognises" certain individuals simply because of special traits, but he became apathetic to the smallest of "seeds".

I know why reality itself conspires against him... because as sad as it is, as terrible as it is... the death of the kame is simply part of the natural cycle, people evolved, and their dependency on the kami diminished, sure... this lowers the wonders of the world, but it brings out others, it is life at work.

What he is doing, however... does it seem natural in any way to you? Mind... altering reality beyond its designs is something I appreciate in a narrative... but not at this cost, he isn't even killing them... he is depriving them of the most fundamental aspect of being a person, he is taking away from others exactly what allows him to be what he is.