Oneul ui Hanyoil eun Yeojada - Ch. 59 - Do You Like This Kind of Idol? (1)

[Boneless_Pizza_69]

Leeo Mooyoung and the producer might already be my favorite characters

I like a girl with a touch of the tism.

 

[Hiyawoffa]

Where's Sanghyun? Is he safe? Is he alright?

You didn't see him at the end of this chapter that face was all Sanghyun. Even though its Yoil body I could only see him.

It's refreshing to see his real self cone out especially when he got told he wasn't talented enough.

 

[mendics]

I think the producer is saying that Yoil doesn't have the talent to actually do that. They can't play polar opposite roles. Frankly, they can't pull off being hyperfeminine flat out. Yoil should rely on her natural beauty and attitude. It would save her anyway. That's what Mooyoung was saying too. She was less annoying before.

i was a bit iffy on the flip flop as well, people telling her to more girly, then now saying her older self was better, "rely on her natural beauty and attitude" wasn't she doing that already before? then what was the whole point about the girl maxing arc? just for her to realize, that she was already doing well before her trying to get out of her comfort zone? I hope this development actually results in something. Like maybe, finding her own femininity to encorporate into her performance was a previous development, and now learning not to fake it or overdoing it is what were on perhaps.

Actually I still don't understand what she learned previously, maybe to just be aware of her own looks and use it. The current arc seems to be focusing on exploring more on being feminine in relation to what she learned previously thinking its what it means to take it seriously but maybe overdid it and strayed off from what she should have been focusing on. Like instead of trying to be more girly, what she needed to do was find her confidence on her looks, personality and own that cause atm she was only doing what she thought would look good and going by the praises of others but i guess in a way that's also a way of trying to find whats good for her, but skewed it too much that she's just following what she thinks would look good as viewed by others, when she should have been doing it for herself. Like for example I could be wearing mini skirts and that would be attractive for others, but personally I prefer long skirts, and that TOO can be attractive if done well with confidence, it also wouldn't feel fake. I guess the issue here is that our mc has not been a woman long to form an identity of preferences based on their looks LOL. If I were put in his shoes, I guess what he needs to find is what he finds comfortable and can bring him confidence based on his own perception of yoil. She can be manly yet have the beauty of a woman. Cool women exists. Don't have to be girly to be attractive.

 

[Maruko97]

Yoil felt like a triggered girl who also likes Gongwon. Old yoil with sanghyun personality would’ve dismissed Yuri statement immediately saying like “I don’t really care, I’m not interested with that guy”. Yoil’s feminine personality perhaps wasn’t all a facade… I think Gongwon secretly still interested with Yoil despite knowing she’s Sanghyun. He’s just too embarrassed to admit it.

It is quite weird. She wanted Gongwon to stop chasing her this entire time. but she gets annoyed when he finally does?

It’s nearly 60 chapters, I hope they can just pick up the pace and hurry up make Yoil into the debut team already.

 

[rotationplus]

that's so gay, yoil.

lol

 

[MaevTheDrake]

Mooyoung being pissed at Han Yoil for not being truthful to herself reminds me of how Sanghyun was mad at Iruha for contradicting that she doesn't act on stage. Great parallels.

 

[MaevTheDrake]

i was a bit iffy on the flip flop as well

I don't think the story is really flip-flopping all that much. Producer never told Yoil to be more feminine; in fact, he praised Yoil's harsh solo performance in the first monthly eval. It was the vocal coach and Gongwon who told Yoil to be more feminine.


This whole "be yourself on stage" plot was already set up with Iruha's contradicting ideology of "I never act on stage." I think the story is simply headed toward Sanghyun having to accept both sides of himself to give a more impactful performance, for the audience and himself. Before, he couldn't acknowledge the decision he took to become a girl idol, and now he doesn't acknowledge that he didn't intend to become one at first.

 

[TaroKoro]

i was a bit iffy on the flip flop as well, people telling her to more girly, then now saying her older self was better

I think is because Yoil also try to hide Sang-hyun persona, which is why people say it's weird.

I think the best analogy is to imagine yoil pesonality is a building, Gongwong tell Yoil to add new support so the building isn't collapsing. Instead of adding supports, Yoil built an entirely new building while trying to hide the old building

 

[WatermelonPlease]

Cool Yoil is thief. She stole my heart again.

 

[Trostishere]

I cant believe how peak the author is cooking right now, the back and forth character development for Yoil is so interesting to see

 

[Hiyawoffa]

Yoil felt like a triggered girl who also likes Gongwon. Old yoil with sanghyun personality would’ve dismissed Yuri statement immediately saying like “I don’t really care, I’m not interested with that guy”. Yoil’s feminine personality perhaps wasn’t all a facade… I think Gongwon secretly still interested with Yoil despite knowing she’s Sanghyun. He’s just too embarrassed to admit it.

It is quite weird. She wanted Gongwon to stop chasing her this entire time. but she gets annoyed when he finally does?

It’s nearly 60 chapters, I hope they can just pick up the pace and hurry up make Yoil into the debut team already.

I think she was mad at Gongwon because just before that comment she thought she was going to cancelled because of him. Also mad he kept hitting on her so much and didn't realise how bad it was

 

[Nami]

I wonder how much of that is Sanghyun, and how much is that of the previous incarnation.

I doubt any of who the previous incarnation was is in there right now. At least currently. There's been no real signs at least, especially not when using the bath bomb.

I have to wonder if it'll stay that way forever, though.

 

[xironi]

At the end of the day everyone in the idol industry acts like they know what they are talking about but it's all bullshit. What feels sincere, what feels fake, there has been and never will be a person who can always correctly see through things.

 

[Thor67]

Yoil felt like a triggered girl who also likes Gongwon. Old yoil with sanghyun personality would’ve dismissed Yuri statement immediately saying like “I don’t really care, I’m not interested with that guy”. Yoil’s feminine personality perhaps wasn’t all a facade… I think Gongwon secretly still interested with Yoil despite knowing she’s Sanghyun. He’s just too embarrassed to admit it.

It is quite weird. She wanted Gongwon to stop chasing her this entire time. but she gets annoyed when he finally does?

It’s nearly 60 chapters, I hope they can just pick up the pace and hurry up make Yoil into the debut team already.

She wanted Gongwon to stop chasing her, but she didn't like that the reason he stopped chasing was because she wasn't attractive to him anymore. She'd probably have wanted him to stop chasing because he'd been rebuffed too many times by her, while still being attracted to her.

Essentially she seems to like the attention from men (and women, but that's not in question here), but doesn't like it when they actually bother her. It's like what "queen bee" characters in other manhwa think about their minions.

 

[Thor67]

I think she was mad at Gongwon because just before that comment she thought she was going to cancelled because of him. Also mad he kept hitting on her so much and didn't realise how bad it was

I'm almost 100% certain she was mad because he said she wasn't attractive to him any longer. She did like the attention from random strangers in public, so she does like being attractive to others.

 

[3therflux]

Bit late to reply, but to be honest, I feel this entire arc's really driving home how important Sanghyun himself is, even if his boy form hasn't made its appearance so far. I'm expecting the double-life routine to come back with a vengeance later on, perhaps when he's more confident in both his lives, with the lessons he learns on one side helping also develop the other.

Another oddly interesting detail I noticed is... how narrow his manager's viewpoint appear to be. Compare to the other people who can see Sanghyun for who he's supposed to be, it's ironically the manager who—despite knowing his true identity—can't separate what she's seeing from the person inside. It really brings to mind how they first met, where the manager's offer seems almost done in a whim, with nary a consideration for him besides the fact that she knew about his dream of being an idol. Not even from his own mouth—but from his grandmother.

It'll be interesting to see how she'll develop, too.

 

[Fox777]

Hot as hell

 

[tresul]

Banger chapter! I love the hard pushback we're finally getting from Mooyoung and Producer-san from fem!MC going too far with the girly-girl stuff we're getting. Producer-san is right to be a bit miffed about it considering he told her to do the exact opposite and to "own" her personality instead of copying the idealized "swan"-like femininity of Lee Ruha in a nice pep-talk post monthly evaluation only for fem!MC to double down hard lol. and Mooyoung tad touch of the 'tism makes her weirded out and confused by fem!MC trying way too hard. go off cool nerdy girl with abs! She probably (i'm not sure if shes been a trainee for long) saw the same thing is happening to fem!MC as did happen to Suryeon (personality change) and seeks to avoid the same outcome.

lol, imagine giving the promising trainee a special peptalk as the producer on her first evaluation to stick to herself and show her true self into the world. only for her to do the exact opposite twice as hard. i'd be mildly dissapointed too!

I don't think the story is really flip-flopping all that much. Producer never told Yoil to be more feminine; in fact, he praised Yoil's harsh solo performance in the first monthly eval. It was the vocal coach and Gongwon who told Yoil to be more feminine.


This whole "be yourself on stage" plot was already set up with Iruha's contradicting ideology of "I never act on stage." I think the story is simply headed toward Sanghyun having to accept both sides of himself to give a more impactful performance, for the audience and himself. Before, he couldn't acknowledge the decision he took to become a girl idol, and now he doesn't acknowledge that he didn't intend to become one at first.

No, I'll be the one to defend Yoil's actions here. The producer guy never gave good criticism after Yoil's monthly review performance. What happened in her individual performance then was Yoil suddenly changing the Ruha routine mid way and making it more her own. Then the producer guy said he'd skip the feedback right after the performance, even though that would have been the best moment to give said feedback.

Following that, everyone else decided to criticize Yoil's voice and performance, calling it too masculine. So effectively every single criticism was about her needing to be more feminine, and it was only after Yoil was no longer there that they started noting how the second half of the performance, when she was being more herself instead of copying Ruha, felt like the better part.

So no, I'm not blaming Yoil for what she did. Producer guy was absolutely no help at that time. But as others noted, for the sake of the story, this was necessary, since now it will likely lead to Yoil balancing out her own personality while adding in some feminine touches that she needs to perform any future roles well.

Another oddly interesting detail I noticed is... how narrow his manager's viewpoint appear to be. Compare to the other people who can see Sanghyun for who he's supposed to be, it's ironically the manager who—despite knowing his true identity—can't separate what she's seeing from the person inside. It really brings to mind how they first met, where the manager's offer seems almost done in a whim, with nary a consideration for him besides the fact that she knew about his dream of being an idol. Not even from his own mouth—but from his grandmother.

Agreed. Manager Han is really to blame for like 70% of Sanghyun/Yoil's problems so far lol.

 

[DanJADO]

Author portrait well the problem of a lof people, they simple dont understand that you can be both masculine and femenine in your traits. People like to separate things into categories, both human nature is a weird mix of everything. Philosophy teach you that, but sadly, philosophy has been disappearing from education.

People draw to art tend to understand that, but otherwise, people just ignore it.

It makes sense for the author to portrait a young korean hyperfocus male with zero knowledge of human psichology (MC) as someone clueless about the complexities of human social & emotional traits. But now, MC is learning little by little that he can be himself even it he is a she.

 

[tresul]

Also, the author has done a good job of subtly showing the fact that Yoil is caught in a giant spiral of misunderstandings with almost everyone else.

The producers, management, and trainers all seem to have different individual perspectives on Yoil, so most of them don't understand why Yoil suddenly changed (hence the accusation about her being in a relationship). Meanwhile, if she had responded that she did it because her past performance reviews told her to do that, it would have probably led to an even better conversation with the producer (the Swan Lake analogy was probably helpful enough though).

But now Mooyoung and a few others probably also think Yoil is not taking her performance seriously because she's with some guy, and what Gongwon just said, followed by Yoil leaving, probably reinforced that point of view. So I imagine that now, when Yoil goes back to acting more like how she used to, some people are still going to dislike her, thinking she only went back to normal because Gongwon broke things off with her.

And Yoil probably won't understand why people are angry because the truth of what happened is so radically different. What a mess (a very entertaining mess, for the readers lol)