Real history also tells us that it was the feudal lords who had the military power, not the royal families. This is why monarchs were dependent on them in order to keep their throne (and head). In some cases to the point that there was a saying "the king reigns but does not rule". Whatever troops he has would be loyal to him and his territory first and foremost, simply because it's he who pays and feeds them and it's his territory that their families live in. Even if they knew he planned to usurp the throne, why would they oppose it? He's already their ruler, and there are potential spoils to be had from such a move if he can succeed.
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Omg people you know whats coming, keep reading or leave, take your purity elsewhere, I'll have girls taking showers and incest relationships as much as I like, no one will stop me of enjoying this manga.🧐🍷
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This. So much this...
If people read more about medieval history instead of watching popular thropes movies than they would know.
It is exactly becasue of that we have Magna Karta as a document and systems like the ones used in Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and Holy Roman Empire.
Not sure why you brought those up, both were just consolidating and expanding the influence of powerful nobility at the expense of the monarch, so pretty much just feudalism+. As for the HRE, that depends on which period we're talking about. While most emperors would have trouble exerting influence over local rulers, there were very powerful ones even though the the system was as decentrailized as ever. They simply did the same as the aristocracy and aquired vast amounts of land for themselves. That allowed them to field massive armies.
Another point why few would challenge the MC taking the throne is that he's a duke, which more likely than not means he's pretty closely related to the royal family. If that's the case then he already has rights of succession, however distant they are. Killing off said royal family would make them not so distant.
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Because, historically, they are the best representation of nobility having power over monarchs. Especially in P-LC since it was the main thing that led to it's eventual downfall as foreign powers (Prussia, Russia and Austria) used it very effectively to divide it between themselves by bribing nobles.
And I agree with your points, hence why I used that examples.
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Kind reminder that this isn’t an actual medieval setting, but Narou-Europa, aka fighting with swords and full-plate armor but the political system, architecture and general technology is 19th century pseudo-Victorian shit (cf. the frigging shower, which I remind you was invented in 1872).
As for my understanding of the plot so far, I’d say bro never told his men he intended to use the monster invasion to usurp the throne and took everyone by surprise (if you find this unbelievable, please refer to the attempted coup in South Korea a couple months ago), and after that, he only remained on the throne a couple months (the coup hasn’t happened yet and the reincarnator said he’s only got one year left to live).
While anachronisms are a common sight in manga, the shower isn't necessarily one. Rudimentary ones existed in ancient Greece and Rome. Mechanical ones were already known over a hundred years earlier than you stated.Kind reminder that this isn’t an actual medieval setting, but Narou-Europa, aka fighting with swords and full-plate armor but the political system, architecture and general technology is 19th century pseudo-Victorian shit (cf. the frigging shower, which I remind you was invented in 1872).
Mind saying how can you even tell the political system, architecture and tech are 19th century, when so little of all of those was shown? Given that military-wise Europe was pretty much finished with the fuedalism way of doing things by the 16th century, I see far more points to the contrary than not. Also, keep in mind that the argument "it's the 19th century but with medieval armor and weapons!" can always be made in reverse: "it's the 15th century but with elements of modernity".
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As you say, rudimentary shower like things existed earlier. Full modern-looking shower, complete with internal plumbing and the very distinctive shape of the shower head and the knobs, is late 19th century at best.
I could boil it down to “random mangaka knows jack shit about actual medieval Europe, whereas he’s probably familiar with late 19th century shit since Meiji era high society is a carbon copy of what we had in western Europe at the time.”
Now if we want to get more into the nitty gritty, here are a couple elements. Let’s start with architecture: this is probably the best view we have of the castle.
The architectural style is incredibly reminiscent of Regency era manors…
… except for the roofs that look more Hausmanian.
But whatever the exact style, both are 19th century and a far cry from 15th century castles.
The exact style of interior furniture is harder to pinpoint because it’s less detailed, but this in undoubtedly not late medieval, and would be perfectly at place in a Biedermeier interior or whatever.
The last nail in the coffin is the 4-pronged forks, which only became common in the 19th century.
The metallic screws we see in the images of human experimentation also didn’t really become an everyday sight before the 19th century.
Lastly, the way they dress has nothing to do with the medieval era, except the plate armor. The simple fact that the maids have uniforms is completely alien to a medieval conception. But even leaving this aside, the duke’s formal dress is clearly reminiscent of 19th century military attire, here for a Prussian example.
Also, this cannot in any way, fashion or imagination be considered medieval. That’s some dressing that only appeared in the latest 18th century at best.
All that to say that the 19th century elements are overwhelmingly dominant and it would be ludicrous to describe this as “medieval with some elements of modernity.”
Considering the political system, I admit we haven’t seen enough of it yet to fully ascertain that it is 19th century shit: I’m extrapolating from other similar works at this point. To summarize, while medieval-style vassality was already on the decline in the 15th century, the overwhelming presence of courtiers you often see in such works is definitely post-Louis XIV, and the presence of an armada of civil servants who do most of the work while not being noble themselves is something that was inspired from China in the latter half of the 18th century.
And I’ve spent way too much time answering you, but well…
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By "rudimentary" I meant from a technical point of view. There was drainage, flow you could turn on and off and most likely hot water. From a user's perspective there's not much difference to speak of from the thing shown here. The shape of the heads are unknown, not enough surivived to tell. It was something only the rich and powerful got to have and so are the characters here.As you say, rudimentary shower like things existed earlier. Full modern-looking shower, complete with internal plumbing and the very distinctive shape of the shower head and the knobs, is late 19th century at best.
I could boil it down to “random mangaka knows jack shit about actual medieval Europe, whereas he’s probably familiar with late 19th century shit since Meiji era high society is a carbon copy of what we had in western Europe at the time.”
Now if we want to get more into the nitty gritty, here are a couple elements. Let’s start with architecture: this is probably the best view we have of the castle.
The architectural style is incredibly reminiscent of Regency era manors…
… except for the roofs that look more Hausmanian.
But whatever the exact style, both are 19th century and a far cry from 15th century castles.
The exact style of interior furniture is harder to pinpoint because it’s less detailed, but this in undoubtedly not late medieval, and would be perfectly at place in a Biedermeier interior or whatever.
The last nail in the coffin is the 4-pronged forks, which only became common in the 19th century.
The metallic screws we see in the images of human experimentation also didn’t really become an everyday sight before the 19th century.
Lastly, the way they dress has nothing to do with the medieval era, except the plate armor. The simple fact that the maids have uniforms is completely alien to a medieval conception. But even leaving this aside, the duke’s formal dress is clearly reminiscent of 19th century military attire, here for a Prussian example.
Also, this cannot in any way, fashion or imagination be considered medieval. That’s some dressing that only appeared in the latest 18th century at best.
All that to say that the 19th century elements are overwhelmingly dominant and it would be ludicrous to describe this as “medieval with some elements of modernity.”
Considering the political system, I admit we haven’t seen enough of it yet to fully ascertain that it is 19th century shit: I’m extrapolating from other similar works at this point. To summarize, while medieval-style vassality was already on the decline in the 15th century, the overwhelming presence of courtiers you often see in such works is definitely post-Louis XIV, and the presence of an armada of civil servants who do most of the work while not being noble themselves is something that was inspired from China in the latter half of the 18th century.
And I’ve spent way too much time answering you, but well…
You're right about the manor (definetly not a castle though). As for attire, I don't recal a single manga that actually did period-proper medieval attire right. I don't even squint at the maid and butler uniforms anymore, can't swing a dead cat without hitting them, no matter the genre. There like Kabuki masks at this point, visual descriptors of background characters...
Wait, what courtiers and civil servants? I don't see a single one here, so what does that reference?
And this is exactly what Narou-Europa is all about: pretending to be medieval by having soldiers in plate-armor, but basically everything is 19th century-ish.
As I said, “we haven’t seen enough of it yet to fully ascertain that it is 19th century shit: I’m extrapolating from other similar works at this point.” We’ll need to wait and see, but I feel secure to bet that what I described is exactly what we’ll see instead of some actual medieval political system. That military guy called a general is a dead giveaway: first of all, the word being used alone as a military rank is late 16th century at best, but more importantly, the whole setting points toward a permanent army, with a unified ranking system, made of fighting commoners under the nominal command of (mostly) non-fighting nobles, which is 17th century at the earliest.
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"Yes editor, it is absolutely necessary to show a fourteen year old showering. Yes, the fans will adore our accuracy to the source material."
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LMAO at the Millenial complaining about the shower scene.
Ya'll really think comics are for grown folks. Get over yourself and start a family or something.
Ya'll really think comics are for grown folks. Get over yourself and start a family or something.
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Yandere PrincessIsekai sweet home Alabama?
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I'm almost up to date on novel and she's down bad the problem is from his pov she keeps sending death glares any time a heroine comes near him, so he praises and flatters her always raising that favorability. At this point in novel it's past the 100 max and is now 1000 at least thays the way I see it, he still can't help himself from keeping raising it more
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Yeah it's a terrible fear of him so he says compliments to all heroines and says things to raise their favorability. If they get jealous angry looks when he's talking to other women, he fears it's death flags, so goes about multiply their favorability for him
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Nothing happened I'm almost up to date, she is into him but he's 1 million percent oblivious above any MC standard. As he's game antagonist and sees himself as old man he doesn't think younger generation would be interested in him
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