GraPara! - Ch. 134 - By Strip, You Mean…?

[e3136282]

Development for almost all characters is dead atp.

Shinobu, no matter what he does, will probably end up having to live with some kind of compromise at the best.

Sakura is a lost cause

Yuma seems like he'll just support her from now on, or a clean break.

Fumi's fate will be decided next chapter..

And the other characters? Yeah. Lucky if they get any more dialogue.

Everything already feels so.. stagnant.. it's so weird.

We can hope for some shocking decisions from the least expected characters.. but.. the author has to use their pen for that to happen.

But the most likely scenario, atleast in my view, will be Shinobu having the worst day of his life. Maybe a time skip? Maybe more misery? Who knows.

 

[hugorito420]

I shall re-read it in closer detail when TL is up but I agree with you, I'm just worried because blonde's words could be the most random trigger for some bs development with fucboi. I don't think the manga should end with fucboiXSakura if ShiFumi falls apart here because then vol 14 sales are going to be feeling real awkward imo.

Both likely will end single but i think the translation won't change too much because i saw many jp comments criticizing the conversation in the same way as us.

 

[DoomResetR]

The conversation did help in nothing.The only effect that conversation had is people mad with both characters.And it does not have any development for fuckboi.

The conversation was a pep talk so Yuma accepts that side of Sakura. It's development so they don't break up in the next chapter.

 

[jonasadan]

I shall re-read it in closer detail when TL is up but I agree with you, I'm just worried because blonde's words could be the most random trigger for some bs development with fucboi. I don't think the manga should end with fucboiXSakura if ShiFumi falls apart here because then vol 14 sales are going to be feeling real awkward imo.

I just reread it and I think we can actually see the fuckboi trying to understand or help Sakura with what she wants to do; I think the blondie words could help him as advice.

 

[hugorito420]

Development for almost all characters is dead atp.

Shinobu, no matter what he does, will probably end up having to live with some kind of compromise at the best.

Sakura is a lost cause

Yuma seems like he'll just support her from now on, or a clean break.

Fumi's fate will be decided next chapter..

And the other characters? Yeah. Lucky if they get any more dialogue.

For me is Shinobu and Sakura single.Fuckboi didn't have any good development this chapter.

Fuckboi just ends with Sakura if a miracle thing happen and Shinobu and Fumi solve their problem.

 

[Alsatia]

GraPara as an anime should stay clear from the NTR elements of the original, because NTR as a whole is not the most appealing to a pretty significant majority of western and eastern audiences.

But seeing some of the comments on reddit asking for more NTR makes me think that no matter what shit this leads to.. it will always have some sort of audience. And that's why this story has gone to such shit in the first place. Engagement bait or not, GraPara got more popular than ever with the introduction of complete NTR, and that's really unfortunate because this could happen to a lot more of these "on the border" type works.

Nah, the baits have to happen. They're integral to the story. I don't mind the stuff happening to the side characters, but those can also be skipped or made into optional bonus episodes. Like Nagi for example.

They can completely write out her sex scene save for the beginning and end. Like when she says "do what you want" then right to her holding herself as she kept quiet. Then have a bonus episode of showing the action. An OVA basically.

 

[e3136282]

Nah, the baits have to happen. They're integral to the story. I don't mind the stuff happening to the side characters, but those can also be skipped or made into optional bonus episodes. Like Nagi for example.

They can completely write out her sex scene save for the beginning and end. Like when she says "do what you want" then right to her holding herself as she kept quiet. Then have a bonus episode of showing the action. An OVA basically.

Maybe the side characters can be used to explore the darker side of the industry, or basically a doomed what-if version of the main couple, while keeping the baits and everything..

With the right rewiring of the story, it could definitely work.

 

[e3136282]

For me is Shinobu and Sakura single.Fuckboi didn't have any good development this chapter.

Fuckboi just ends with Sakura if a miracle thing happen and Shinobu and Fumi solve their problem.

But Shinobu and Fumi making up after this is so.. pointless..

Fumi made her point. She can do shit like how the blonde explained Sakura can, if she really wants to. It's up to Shinobu if he wants to take that risk or just focus all on his career and no longer on relationships.

That would be a decent outcome too. Shinobu decides that relationships are too much, and too risky for an upcoming director like him, and maybe he stays with Fumi just for the sake of it without being emotionally attached? It's all such a stretch when the looming and almost inevitable reality will be misery cuck shit.

 

[diphuc1]

Both likely will end single but i think the translation won't change too much because i saw many jp comments criticizing the conversation in the same way as us.

Understandable. the fact that fucboiXSakura potentially being the ultimate ending after a turnaround from last chapter is wild ngl.

For me is Shinobu and Sakura single.Fuckboi didn't have any good development this chapter.

Fuckboi just ends with Sakura if a miracle thing happen and Shinobu and Fumi solve their problem.

I hate the author still doing this to the end

 

[hugorito420]

But Shinobu and Fumi making up after this is so.. pointless..

Fumi made her point. She can do shit like how the blonde explained Sakura can, of she really wants to. It's up to Shinobu if he wants to take that risk or just focus all on his career and no longer on relationship.

that is way i called a miracle way but i think if Shinobu ends single Sakura also will and we will have the classic open ending for the manga.

 

[DoomResetR]

Sakura and Fuckboi got more development than Fumi and Shinobu. Like seriously what are you even talking about with no development?
Sakura now accepts that slutty nymphomaniac side of her, and further develops as a proper actress.
Yuma seemed to be closed minded but now thanks to Blondie gets to understand Sakura way more than FumixShinobu ever could!

FumixShinobu got the short end of the stick, they don't talk to each other or rely on their feelings. They love each other but at the same time, neither of them trust in the other. Yeah yeah Fumi getting railed and banged while on camera is bad, but that's what Shinobu will always get for being a nice guy. Is it deserved? No, but under the twisted mind of KA that's what nice average looking men deserve.

 

[e3136282]

that is way i called a miracle way but i think if Shinobu ends single Sakura also will and we will have the classic open ending for the manga.

Open ending would also be.. bruh..

I really can't think of an even decent ending for this now. Or Fumi has to pull an April fools and say something like..
"This is how far I'll go for you, director..", turning this from NTR to NTS..?

 

[hugorito420]

Open ending would also be.. bruh..

I really can't think of an even decent ending for this now. Or Fumi has to pull an April fools and say something like..
"This is how far I'll go for you, director..", turning this from NTR to NTS..?

But the open ending is the highest possibility here.Because we don't know what happens next for Shinobu and Fumi,and for Sakura and Fuckboi.

For me it looks like Airi will do a ending to let us imagine what i is going to happen next.

 

[e3136282]

Sakura and Fuckboi got more development than Fumi and Shinobu. Like seriously what are you even talking about with no development?
Sakura now accepts that slutty nymphomaniac side of her, and further develops as a proper actress.
Yuma seemed to be closed minded but now thanks to Blondie gets to understand Sakura way more than FumixShinobu ever could!

FumixShinobu got the short end of the stick, they don't talk to each other or rely on their feelings. They love each other but at the same time, neither of them trust in the other. Yeah yeah Fumi getting railed and banged while on camera is bad, but that's what Shinobu will always get for being a nice guy. Is it deserved? No, but under the twisted mind of KA that's what nice average looking men deserve.

I really wish we got more Yuma in that conversation so that he could also speak up. But yeah. Sakura seems complete with her arc, Yuma is also there..

 

[jonasadan]

Open ending would also be.. bruh..

I really can't think of an even decent ending for this now. Or Fumi has to pull an April fools and say something like..
"This is how far I'll go for you, director..", turning this from NTR to NTS..?

Well, it can't be NTS because the last thing Shinobu wants to see is Fumi with someone else, so I think it's still NTR.

 

[Ballsmahoney13]

Okay, just read chapter on reddit. Not even as bad as it was being made to seem here, maybe official translation will change stuff but I thought fumi went behind his back to do it but they talked and agreed to do it. As long as she doesn’t actually fuck the guy, it’s not a big deal. Shinobu just needs to confess his true love for her

 

[e3136282]

But the open ending is the highest possibility here.Because we don't know what happens next for Shinobu and Fumi,and for Sakura and Fuckboi.

For me it looks like Airi will do a ending to let us imagine what i is going to happen next.

Open ending would also be decently conclusive, without getting her even more backlash so yeah. I could see her go there.

 

[SS-2010]

Well, but Shinobu was thinking about Sakura because of what Ryusei said, no? It's the same as when Sakura was thinking about Shinobu in previous chapters

Agree with you.

Chapter 134 and 135 portrayed the same things : First, Sakura didn't stay with fucboy and Shinobu didn't stay with Fumi. It means their relationship of both Sakura x Fucboy and Shinobu x Fumi are not unreliable. Maybe only one-time sex both Sakura x fucboy and Shinobu x Fumi.

Anyway, fucboy must realizes now Sakura never and will not love him from raping her (or what you'd like to call forced sex). IMHO, what the blond said in the end, she said if the fucboy cannot accept it then (you must let Sakura go).

Second, both Sakura and Shinobu still love each other and think of the time they spent together for over 100 chapters. Sakura said she lost her direction without Shinobu while Shinobu replied to Ryusei's praise that he thought nothing but to make Sakura shrine. Then he used the pen she gave him as a birthday present (he just kept it without use).

Fumi noticed Shinobu's usage of the pen and realizes the same thing as fucboy that Shinobu will never love her. So she decided to oppose him, resembling Sakura refused fucboy's opinion and implies the relationship will be broken.

Again, please be reminded that Keishi Nishikida sensei hold 50% right of Grapara. He might not let Airi Katsura (sensei) to fully control the ending of Grapara without the help of that mad editor. KN sensei is romcom author and every manga he made, the MC ends up with FMC.

@box2024 @diphuc1 @Alsatia , I think that problematic editor who support AK (sensei) has gone and Kodansha has already talked with AK (sensei) and KN sensei and reached an agreement already.

I don't trust AK (sensei) but I still have a hope on KN sensei.

AK (sensei) may not be serious about Grapara's volume sales because she can earn from Karami Zakari till she dies. But KN sensei and Kodansha are serious about it !

So, the first damage control Kodansha did might be changing the editor and then negotiating with AK (sensei) and KN sensei for the proper ending.

IMHO, Kodansha ordered that Sakura and Shinobu must be free from fucboy and Fumi in order to go back together so they didn't waste the former 100+ chapters.

Otherwise, Grapara will consist of only four volumes, 11 - 14, starting from when fucboy and Fumi appear (chapter 103 and 104). The stories prior to that are worthless, readers might throw those volumes away or burn them. LOL

 

[e3136282]

Okay, just read chapter on reddit. Not even as bad as it was being made to seem here, maybe official translation will change stuff but I thought fumi went behind his back to do it but they talked and agreed to do it. As long as she doesn’t actually fuck the guy, it’s not a big deal. Shinobu just needs to confess his true love for her

Shinobu hasn't really.. reciprocated her feelings yet, and that might be a big reason as to why Fumi spiralled this much upon seeing the pen. Maybe this could all be fixed with a talk..

Yeah. A talk. Something all these characters seem allergic to. God this is so annoying..

 

[jonasadan]

Okay, just read chapter on reddit. Not even as bad as it was being made to seem here, maybe official translation will change stuff but I thought fumi went behind his back to do it but they talked and agreed to do it. As long as she doesn’t actually fuck the guy, it’s not a big deal. Shinobu just needs to confess his true love for her

If you look at Shinobu's reaction, you can tell he's surprised when Fumi is topless and kissing the actor, so Fumi did it behind Shinobu's back