Haimiya-senpai wa Kowakute Kawaii - Ch. 45

[Mangamoz]

@Litreara How much do you bet the author will pull ANOTHER drama arc the moment this one ends?

 

[Litreara]

@Litreara How much do you bet the author will pull ANOTHER drama arc the moment this one ends?

Hmm... It's kinda hard to think of how they'd pull it off. Maybe a love rival? But it's kinda too late to introduce one now.

 

[Mangamoz]

Hmm... It's kinda hard to think of how they'd pull it off. Maybe a love rival? But it's kinda too late to introduce one now.

Doesn't have to have logic with this author, looking at their past actions. They are a pro ass puller.

Could be an asteroid for all we know.

 

[humblenoob76]

all of you clowning on the plot dont understand or havent been in this situation before yourselves
i believe the author is trying to describe clinical depression, something i am a bit too familiar with
i dont think this is trying to "manufacture" drama, i think you just came into this manga expecting something different (a fluffy cute romcom) but i knew chapters ago this was going to be a deeper coming-of-age romcom, especially during MC's musical pressure arc
this is an opporitunity for both haimiya and kurose to explore their own and possibly each other's emotions and help each other to heal (and isnt that what a partner is for?)

 

[Haydrion101]

Is it just me or is this manga fallin off?

 

[requriedsignup229]

Pfft... C'mon, author. If you're going to give a character a medical condition, at least research it properly and tell us what it is. This just feels like a convoluted way to add some drama to the story. Oh well.

Thanks for the chapter!

yeah felt a little like bs, what is it like a extreme introvert social battery thing?

 

[Elonix]

Author added a non making sense shitty condition to drag the series and a overreacting guy to top it off ✌🏻✌🏻😂😂 i fucking hate these authors

 

[PolishDuck]

she caught the introvert-disease, yeah the author has COMPLETELY no idea how to end this series 😭😭

 

[g1m2]

Plus this is a work of fiction, not everything needs to be one to one with real life, you can take creative liberties instead of just using that as an excuse for the fact that every chapter lately has pulled one contrived thing after the other to keep things moving along

I hope it gets better

 

[Arkshol]

man what is this shit? what a dumb way to introduce drama fucking hell

 

[robopiplup07]

This can actually be a dangerous approach, depending on the person. The person in question may literally be just so exhausted they. absolutely. cannot. deal. Pushing in this scenario will just push them further into the spiral. You can really make a person feel cornered this way. Cornered people do desperate things. Sometimes it's better to just support them from afar and give them space.

C'mon man, the nurse JUST got done saying that she's aware that the MC is the reason why Haimiya has been in a better mental state lately. Telling him to go visit her and just be there for her is absolutely what she should have just straight-out told him to do, but no, the author has to drama bait and keep up the wimpy MC status quo so the self-inserters don't get offended that the MC isn't literally them.

 

[mlow44]

C'mon man, the nurse JUST got done saying that she's aware that the MC is the reason why Haimiya has been in a better mental state lately. Telling him to go visit her and just be there for her is absolutely what she should have just straight-out told him to do, but no, the author has to drama bait and keep up the wimpy MC status quo so the self-inserters don't get offended that the MC isn't literally them.

Mental illness is not a logical function. Even if she's logically aware that her social connections are healthy for her, she may push people away out of illogical fears. Pushing back can exacerbate these fears. People in these situations can literally experience a fight-or-flight response that makes them behave like cornered animals. If you want to help someone feeling this way you can't just force your way back into their lives or you could permanently ruin your chances.

 

[robopiplup07]

Mental illness is not a logical function. Even if she's logically aware that her social connections are healthy for her, she may push people away out of illogical fears. Pushing back can exacerbate these fears. People in these situations can literally experience a fight-or-flight response that makes them behave like cornered animals. If you want to help someone feeling this way you can't just force your way back into their lives or you could permanently ruin your chances.

You're just fishing for things to argue about at this point, those kinds of things clearly do not apply to Haimiya from what we've seen. She derives genuine enjoyment from the MC being there for her, and her pulling away is going to cause her to just fall back into the depressive state she was in before she met him, if it's not worse than before due to her missing his presence. He'll likely be going to visit her at home soon after his friend here gives him a talking to. As long as he doesn't push her to come back to school, she'll be fine.

 

[mlow44]

You're just fishing for things to argue about at this point, those kinds of things clearly do not apply to Haimiya from what we've seen. She derives genuine enjoyment from the MC being there for her, and her pulling away is going to cause her to just fall back into the depressive state she was in before she met him, if it's not worse than before due to her missing his presence. He'll likely be going to visit her at home soon after his friend here gives him a talking to. As long as he doesn't push her to come back to school, she'll be fine.

What I'm doing is trying to push back against the ignorance on display in this thread. I can't anticipate exactly how the author intends to expand and resolve their story from here, but I can maybe educate some of those here who don't understand this chapter's development. For example, your assumption that just because "she derives genuine enjoyment from the MC being there for her" means she's immune to the pitfalls of mental illness as long as he's there for her. Even with great support structures, therapy, and medication, mental illness like depression or anxiety can remain a constant and ongoing struggle. And we can't really make any assumptions about how deep Haimiya's issues run based on "what we've seen." I've talked about masking plenty already, but people with severe depression often seem fine on the surface. One of the most common things you'll hear after someone commits suicide is their loved ones describing that they seemed perfectly fine, even happy.

Maybe everything will be resolved next chapter, I can't read the author's mind. All I'm doing is trying to help people accept that the development so far isn't far-fetched and its abruptness isn't necessarily artificial.

 

[MarcoMook]

I feel like if she had these kind of issues in the first place, she would not have handled that other girl well, or done well with babysitting children.

 

[Fakaca]

These last 5 chapters fell so incredibly forced that its actually making me mad. it started off so well. the growth of the characters was then done so poorly that it seems like the elements are only there to prolong the story. Kurose is so wimpy and so ignorant toward the advice the other characters have given him in the past chapters that its infuriating to read. In comparison, fragrant flower did a better job of actually portraying growth in an efficient way. I hope this settles soon because i really liked the series up until the stuff that kurose pulled with the band.

 

[Fakaca]

What I'm doing is trying to push back against the ignorance on display in this thread. I can't anticipate exactly how the author intends to expand and resolve their story from here, but I can maybe educate some of those here who don't understand this chapter's development. For example, your assumption that just because "she derives genuine enjoyment from the MC being there for her" means she's immune to the pitfalls of mental illness as long as he's there for her. Even with great support structures, therapy, and medication, mental illness like depression or anxiety can remain a constant and ongoing struggle. And we can't really make any assumptions about how deep Haimiya's issues run based on "what we've seen." I've talked about masking plenty already, but people with severe depression often seem fine on the surface. One of the most common things you'll hear after someone commits suicide is their loved ones describing that they seemed perfectly fine, even happy.

Maybe everything will be resolved next chapter, I can't read the author's mind. All I'm doing is trying to help people accept that the development so far isn't far-fetched and its abruptness isn't necessarily artificial.

You just admitted yourself that youre the same as the OP. I dont know why you thought it would be a good idea to compare whatever mental problems she has with real depression but this series started to ahh pull situations like these when kurose left the band. I know that these are kids we are reading about but this is at a level where the whole purpose of the situation is just prolongation and adding buzzwords. It is unnatural. Still having trauma of something that happened in elementary school while not being associated with anything from that time anymore is incredibly unrealistic and it makes kurose more and more unlikable because he seems stubborn and stuck in his bad ways. The fact that haimiya didn't mention any of her problems to kurose even though she is portrayed as a mature character is paradoxical and only makes it seem that it now forces a situation where kurose regards that behavior as unfair, especially with how much of a wimp he is. This is hopefully not going to repeat itself and we will hopefully see some real character development instead of this forced and incoherent mess

 

[mlow44]

You just admitted yourself that youre the same as the OP.

You're gonna have to clarify what you mean by this, who you mean by OP, and why it would be a bad thing to be the same as them.

I dont know why you thought it would be a good idea to compare whatever mental problems she has with real depression

People are complaining all throughout this thread that either her behavior/illness doesn't make sense, isn't realistic, or is inconsistent. Depression is one of several possible explanations that put this chapter into context that could potentially help these people understand this development and where it is coming from. My hope is that I can help at least some of these people keep an open mind rather than be dismissive and incredulous.

Ultimately I'm uncomfortable with how closely these complaints resemble real-life stigmatization of mental disorders. Rather than try to understand, people embrace their inability to conceive of how others' minds might work differently or how others might experience things differently, treating those suffering from mental illness with disbelief and scorn. This weaponization of ignorance makes it harder for already vulnerable people to get help and get well. Regardless of how this manga in particular plays out, I hope spreading a little mental health awareness might teach people to avoid doing harm in the real world with this attitude.

 

[Kaito57]

 

[Tymo]

all of you clowning on the plot dont understand or havent been in this situation before yourselves
i believe the author is trying to describe clinical depression, something i am a bit too familiar with
i dont think this is trying to "manufacture" drama, i think you just came into this manga expecting something different (a fluffy cute romcom) but i knew chapters ago this was going to be a deeper coming-of-age romcom, especially during MC's musical pressure arc
this is an opporitunity for both haimiya and kurose to explore their own and possibly each other's emotions and help each other to heal (and isnt that what a partner is for?)

Nah, it's just shit ass writting, stop trying to defend it