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While it depicts LGBT written characters it isn't necessarily LGBT material or themed. This is the point that is hard to teach people cause it's hard to find an example similar to it. If you read some of what I linked it goes into how it used to more accurately depict Homosexual and bisexual...

@bigtiddyoneesan please reference where I've repeatedly stated that at the very least YAOI is not representative of all malexmale content. It specifically refers to content that is targeted to women and largely made by women. I've stated this numerous times. And it isn't an umbrella term yaoi is...

Oh I do think that LGBT could definitely be a Theme though. Might argue towards that in the future. But I honestly don't mind the tag combos the mod mentioned for finding things though it does make it more work.

@Halo probably true but then at least I'd have more weight in my argument if I had more material reference. @BestBoy The first manga you referenced is gone by the way?

@Sunnyhybrid what views do you feel are being pushed?

@BraveDude8 To be fair I completely forgot that Shonen ai is not Shota which is why I currently avoid the Shounen ai tag like the plague. This would so totally work my only issue I see is people not labeling things seinen properly but good point.

@Nutz Definitely agree with one addendum being willfully ignorant isn't acceptable like purposely ignoring or rejecting facts for your own benefit alot of people do that to abuse others. Though I don't think thats what you were supporting lol.

@BestBoy I don't necessarily believe that was @Clawfire4569 intent but I did want to bring what they said into perspective especially since bara/geikomi or an lgbt specific tag isn't only about sex, sex isn't dirty and Yaoi itself is tag that wouldn't necessarily be sweet romance either most...

@Nutz I'll be honest I have barely heard of Geikomi before reading up on it. Apparently while we use bara in the west and we dont find it offensive its similar to labeling the artists works as Pansy works and is an insult in Japan. Which is why I am not 100% for using Bara since I dont think...

@BraveDude8 / @Lymus I am not whining nor complaining if you read I already acknowleded that it was rejected but I am still discussing it civilly with others. Please at least see/acknowledge if you do anything that I am not asking for an overturn on this issue, nor have I been disrespectful to...

@hazzack Not necessarily true 1. it depends on the culture, and in some places sex is legal in public. 2. where cultures do consider sex "dirty" its not usually brought up unless its about men having sex. 3. Most importantly there is nothing dirty/wrong about sex whoever is having it necessarily...

My post above this is directed at you @Clawfire4569. @Nutz how do you properly tag people so they get the bubble...

@Nutz I agree honestly what I have learned from this is not to try and make one post about multiple tags I shouldn't have focused on LGBT unless I actually wanted an LGBT tag which I somewhat do but thats another rant lol. I've also learned that alot of people tend to conflate Yaoi as...

@Clawfire4569 I think there is a misunderstanding since thats not my goal. First there is nothing "dirty" about guys having sex. Second I was proposing tags that would be for more accurate lgbt depiction, not ones that are made to cater to heterosexuals. Though it has been brought to my...

@bigtiddyoneesa No Yaoi is made not "mainly". I am not saying we should add tags for yaoi aimed at men since there is none, Yaoi by definition has its demographic being for women. @pandascepter Its a fact Yaoi is the fetishization of men with same sex interests by and for women. That...

@nutz while its true I feel the need for it to be there, your argument was that I was trying to say that it should be there only because I feel it should. I agree that I could be better explaining my arguments though. Saying it like you did above makes it seem like I am throwing a fit cause it...

Anyway I cannot argue with anyone who refuses to look at this from a perspective not their own. Yaoi is a genre for women to fetishize men thats all. It is not a genre for men to read. @pandascepter A tag? thats pretty clear. Obviously this is a place to read though I see no reason why you...

@Nutz I never said it needed to happen just because I feel it does. My argument is not weak you refuse to try to see it from my point of view. I did actually have conversations with those willing and so did others. Saying that I shouldnt request something because another site has it is not a...

@blackyawgdom at that point all tags, genres and suggestions for them dont belong on this site since mangaupdates exists.

@bigtiddyoneesan Why? Why do you feel that it has no place here?