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[criver]

@agmik

I bet you can do that with a lens a kilometer in radius.

You don't need a lens kilometer in radius, you just need a parabolic mirror, but even then you'd have a very hard time vaporizing steel (I am not even sure if it will be possible - theoretically it is, practically - you'd have to get more creative). Anyways, the small droplets thing will not work, plain and simple. It's just bs - I don't care what AI you use, it's simply not how physics work.

Because then your words, have the MC beat the army through his "intelligence", mean that it was the MC who came up, developed and performed the magic.

You do not get to decide what my words mean. The MC came up with the stupid droplets plan based on his "knowledge" from the future. I suppose the idea was to present him as innovative and creative, pretty ironic considering this is the main part that will simply not work out.

It abuses the unique skill. Does this make you happier now?

It supposedly abuses physics, or that's what the author was going for, unfortunately for him, that is not how physics work.

And just to rain some more on your parade - you don't need a genius in order to compute the focal point of a parabolic mirror.

 

[johncena420]

see you in a month BOIS

 

[relic626]

@criver you're arguing about physics when a guy literally teleports away from a fight?
Its a fantasy story quit being a hardass. Read and enjoy no need to be critical about everything, or you just ruin the story for yourself and others who choose to socialse with you on this thread.

 

[Monky]

Magnifico
I’m really impressed with how this incredibly comfy manga changed gear so smoothly into a great and edgy war story.

 

[Warhawk]

To the people that already read ahead with the novel. Are all fights like these, which are onesided beatdowns, or will there be tension in the future?

For example the mage that got teased. Hope he at least puts up a fight.

 

[criver]

@relic626
The guy teleporting away from a fight is not implied to use physics to do so, our MC decimating the army is explicitly stated to use "physics" to do so. Can you make the distinction?

If you make physics a plot point and you botch it you can't just pass it off with a "but muh magic" - that is, your comparison is really apples to oranges. I wouldn't even have mentioned it if the MC farted magic to wipe out the army, the problem here is that this is not the case.

It's just an ass pull, a badly executed one at that. Note that this has implications for the whole story - like the MC not being able to exact his "revenge" without actually having to introduce plot inconsistencies.

Read and enjoy no need to be critical about everything

Here's the thing - I am perfectly capable of enjoying something while pointing out its flaws, meaning that those two things are not exclusive for me. If they are for you, that's unfortunate.

Just fyi, you are allowed to block me if my comments "ruin" your enjoyment of the story. I don't really plan to stop pointing out poor writing/plot inconsistency anytime soon, so maybe it's a good idea if you do follow my advice.

 

[Serafita]

This pic about sums up comments

 

[vantablack35]

@Serafita dafuq is that supposed to be?
Also. For the guys who are confused, here's an excerpt from the LN Volume 5 Chapter 5:

Over a thousand or so droplets of water were floating around me. I had deployed a dozen-ish large ones up above, shaped like convex lenses. These droplets gathered the sunlight overhead, honing it into thin rays of light and refracting it against the mirrorlike droplets below. This focused all the light upon a single point, where it was then further condensed by the convex-lens droplets down below me before being channeled toward its target. The temperature of these thin rays, no more than a pencil’s width in diameter, was several thousand degrees—more than enough heat to take a person’s life.
The droplets were water elementals I summoned and transformed for my needs. With my magic, each one of them took in the sun’s energy, refracted it, and collected it. And that was how Megiddo, my new physically driven magic spell, worked.

Also, I was a little bit sad when I saw the attack. It was real different from what actually happened. But seeing the previous orc lord army fight, I kinda understand the the manga artist isn't that proficient in drawing army to army battles:

The first wild blast of light led to a helpless death for over one thousand knights. Their ranks began to fall apart below me—Megiddo was terrorizing them, or so I hoped. But that wasn’t the end. Optimizing my calculations, I automatically adjusted the positions of the relevant droplets and set off the second blast. Another thousand or so fell, unable to resist the searing heat.
That was the really scary thing about this magic, actually—how little energy it cost me to orchestrate. The convex lens that served as the final launching point was vaporized every time by the heat, but I could instantly provide another one. That was what the water elementals were for. And gathering water vapor from the air didn’t take much work.
Rebuilding a lens took less than half a minute, so it was even possible to launch a volley of air strikes. All I had to do was gather more water and adjust my aim. It cost me nothing more than whatever it took to summon elementals and keep the machine purring—this spell, for the most part, ran on sunlight, the purest symbol of natural energy. It meant I could use it only during the daytime, but these forces were kind enough to march upon Tempest close to high noon. All potential issues had been addressed. Now I just had to clean up the garbage below me.

Megiddo is still a newly created spell. Even with Great Sage's help, Rimuru still needs time to optimize the spell to kill a lot of people.

 

[SuppaTenko]

Assuming the simplified form of convex lens, the beam of light was said to hit several thousand degrees (Celsius i assume). This should ignite all the air it passes through; but he also states it melts the lenses, how they survive passing enough energy to hit several thousand C first is a feat. Fairies did it.

 

[Mangon]

@SuppaTenko science be dammed, it's magic

 

[tiboktech12]

commenters are reading too much dr.stone

 

[Friendly_Ram]

@warhawk

Spoiler

bitch mage gets popped by rimuru, then by rimurus new toy

 

[SloWolfe]

People mad that magic is magical. This is by far the most entertaining part of this chapter.

 

[criver]

@vantablack35 I can write nonsense like the author too. Now run by the calculations.

I could have agreed if he stated that he produced a large enough parabolic mirror, because then the temperature over the mirror does not have to be high, but the temperature at the focal point can be very high (think 1000-3000 degrees depending on mirror size/complexity of concentrators, theoretically up to the temperature of the surface of the sun, but practically that would be an issue). Added benefit - you don't actually need an omnipotent computer for this, you can literally adjust the eccentricity by hand.

 

[vantablack35]

@criver nah. He really needed Great Sage for this since involves lot's of calculations

It did take some time to get used to things, but now I could control the beams of light like second nature. The key was in the angle of refraction. You could fire all you wanted for the barest minimum of energy. Focusing your heat source on a single point cooked it up to several thousand degrees, and that was more than enough to take down a man or two.

Once I grasped the concept, I could always strike from the most optimal angle whenever I wanted. There’s a slight time lag to deal with, but we’re essentially talking the speed of light, so you can’t dodge it once you see it. I could fire it from six thousand miles away, and it’d still take about 0.034 seconds to find its target. Far faster than a human being could obtain the visual information and transmit it via the nervous system to their brain.

I couldn’t control and aim it with any accuracy without the computations of the Great Sage. Gotta give the guy a hand. It made me realize all over again how amazing it was. If someone fired this on me at close range, I’d have trouble evading it even with the Sage’s help. I could comprehend what it was the moment I caught sight of it, so maybe I could just barely get out of the way in time…but it’d probably come down to luck.

Sorry for the walls of text.

 

[weebismyweed]

Can we take a moment all this tribute made for our mc development like I really enjoy how the mc is evolving through the serie

 

[criver]

@vantablack35 I already explained why this is bs. Forget anything written in the LN when it comes to physics, it's literally hot garbage.

Now if you use actual parabolic mirrors - getting the focus correctly is trivial, even if you tweak the eccentricity by hand. If you don't trust me, I can try making you a shader tomorrow to illustrate this.

 

[mage_goo]

hol up
I can kinda take the water droplets flying around able to bend the beam without evaporating since magic and all, but the source is also merely from focusing sunlight?
Is that what those flying disk used for? Don't you need way more surface area for that?

Edit: wait, the droplet actually evaporates upon reflecting the beam.
The flying disk creating that kind of beam is still sketchy tho

 

[Deathhappens]

Eeeeeeeh. That didn't look nearly as epic as it should've. I was expecting something closer to this.

 

[goodhunter]

@deathhappens what's the point of such a flashy and predictable skill? The way our MC did it is much more better realistically speaking. No one knew what hit them, they all died before they could realize what even happened. That is true strength.