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@RamenRider @Nehona reasonable assessments.
Re: Japanese ignorance of attrocities. This wouldn't necessarily be all that different from say US Attrocities. I'm an American and you'd be amazed how ignorant we are in general of what happened during wars. Firebombing of Tokyo, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Korean Firebombings, the firebombing of Dresden, the genocides in South East Asia, the current wars, the Philippines, most us colonialism in general, etc. People are clueless. They don't even take necessarily into account what happened to the first and second Nations who were here before the European colonists. Most people are majorly ignorant of history and even those who studies some of it, are generally ignorant of the major thematics. They don't know about what happened after World War 1 in Russia where the US Army was sent to fight the Bolsheviks. There's so much that's not stated a known by the average citizens that the bioweapons programs and all the genocide that went on kind of becomes at best a footnote in history for most Americans. the only reason Japan gets vilified in the u.s. is because of all the long-standing propaganda during World War II. And even that's been fading substantially.
If I look at Japan and those aspects of Japanese culture that I understand, it is not much of a surprise then that the head down and don't ask questions/don't talk about past cultural shame would create some degree of ignorance. I don't think that's necessarily Universal, but in the same way as the average comic artist might be ignorant of the subtle nuances in US history it wouldn't be surprising to me that the average Japanese comic artist would likewise be ignorant of Japanese atrocities during World War II and before. It's just not something that's talked about I would imagine. Same goes here in the US. And then there's always that theme about "we've already heard about it enough/that happened in the past". I mean, just think of all those anime that are alternate world world war anime where suddenly the Japanese aren't the bad guys. Of course, that's assuming World War II was a lot more simplistic than it really was, and removes any and all aspects of the US and Europe in terms of the racist and ethnicity has policies that helped stimulate the Japanese actions as well as the general view of imperialism which enabled the Japanese to be able to expand by claiming the same perceive rights as the rest of the world. And the question remains of whether if imperialism had been opposed from the outset at the end of World War I, things would have been different? Would Japan have become the invasive genocidal militarized ultra nationalized regime?
It's difficult to say, but things like the refusal to include the anti-racism clause in the Treaty of Versailles or the passing of the 1924 Immigration Acts in the US and their subsequent fallout with Japan amongst other issues. If Japanese citizens could have come to the US instead of Japan becoming overstressed, would it have eased tensions?
As for the Prince vs his old man—it's made clear that they don't get along and the Crown Prince will have to fight for the throne. His father sounds like a real bastard who didn't name him as heir. In so doing, the Prince has been attempting to provide defense for his throne run. I think the plot said that the Eastern Emperor was in a coma and not expected to awaken. The Western Emperor likewise acts like a tool. The long-haired character is like a brother to the Prince, yet sadly is a guard of the bastard emperor, so when the crown prince takes the throne by force in order to prevent the downfall of the society, sadly his friend will choose "duty" over their friendship. It's unclear, however, how that will play out with the Princess in the middle.
As for the Prince's evil actions, those can reasonably be explained by the state of the society. He thinks that he's not being given any meaningful alternatives or risk the suffering of his people. As for him vs the Western Emperor, they both seem to have other motives in their day-jobs. Marie is the only one capable of looking past that, which has promoted change. Ultimately, if her identity is revealed, then she'll probably flee despite the risks of being hunted.
Re: Japanese ignorance of attrocities. This wouldn't necessarily be all that different from say US Attrocities. I'm an American and you'd be amazed how ignorant we are in general of what happened during wars. Firebombing of Tokyo, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Korean Firebombings, the firebombing of Dresden, the genocides in South East Asia, the current wars, the Philippines, most us colonialism in general, etc. People are clueless. They don't even take necessarily into account what happened to the first and second Nations who were here before the European colonists. Most people are majorly ignorant of history and even those who studies some of it, are generally ignorant of the major thematics. They don't know about what happened after World War 1 in Russia where the US Army was sent to fight the Bolsheviks. There's so much that's not stated a known by the average citizens that the bioweapons programs and all the genocide that went on kind of becomes at best a footnote in history for most Americans. the only reason Japan gets vilified in the u.s. is because of all the long-standing propaganda during World War II. And even that's been fading substantially.
If I look at Japan and those aspects of Japanese culture that I understand, it is not much of a surprise then that the head down and don't ask questions/don't talk about past cultural shame would create some degree of ignorance. I don't think that's necessarily Universal, but in the same way as the average comic artist might be ignorant of the subtle nuances in US history it wouldn't be surprising to me that the average Japanese comic artist would likewise be ignorant of Japanese atrocities during World War II and before. It's just not something that's talked about I would imagine. Same goes here in the US. And then there's always that theme about "we've already heard about it enough/that happened in the past". I mean, just think of all those anime that are alternate world world war anime where suddenly the Japanese aren't the bad guys. Of course, that's assuming World War II was a lot more simplistic than it really was, and removes any and all aspects of the US and Europe in terms of the racist and ethnicity has policies that helped stimulate the Japanese actions as well as the general view of imperialism which enabled the Japanese to be able to expand by claiming the same perceive rights as the rest of the world. And the question remains of whether if imperialism had been opposed from the outset at the end of World War I, things would have been different? Would Japan have become the invasive genocidal militarized ultra nationalized regime?
It's difficult to say, but things like the refusal to include the anti-racism clause in the Treaty of Versailles or the passing of the 1924 Immigration Acts in the US and their subsequent fallout with Japan amongst other issues. If Japanese citizens could have come to the US instead of Japan becoming overstressed, would it have eased tensions?
As for the Prince vs his old man—it's made clear that they don't get along and the Crown Prince will have to fight for the throne. His father sounds like a real bastard who didn't name him as heir. In so doing, the Prince has been attempting to provide defense for his throne run. I think the plot said that the Eastern Emperor was in a coma and not expected to awaken. The Western Emperor likewise acts like a tool. The long-haired character is like a brother to the Prince, yet sadly is a guard of the bastard emperor, so when the crown prince takes the throne by force in order to prevent the downfall of the society, sadly his friend will choose "duty" over their friendship. It's unclear, however, how that will play out with the Princess in the middle.
As for the Prince's evil actions, those can reasonably be explained by the state of the society. He thinks that he's not being given any meaningful alternatives or risk the suffering of his people. As for him vs the Western Emperor, they both seem to have other motives in their day-jobs. Marie is the only one capable of looking past that, which has promoted change. Ultimately, if her identity is revealed, then she'll probably flee despite the risks of being hunted.
