A Villainess No More - Ch. 23

[Zikakuto]

@LeRyzz I was about to say the exact same thing. Glad I spotted your comment and that I wasn’t the only person who thought the same. I was cringing internally but I like it so far so I’m willing to look past that.

 

[TheGodEmperor]

Ahhh I want so much more to catch up

 

[LeRyzz]

@Zikakuto I'm glad to read your comment too, I feared I was alone with this thought ^^

 

[unime]

Steamy newly wed night?
Many thanks

 

[piapple]

Is is the sexy time O.O

Thanks for the update <3

 

[Tensaitkuroneko]

That was a pretty weird argument...it doesn't make sense and it is extremely up in the air but put in a flowery language. Ugh.

 

[SheilaSkypelt]

They implied her comment was well thought out but am I wrong or does it mean that commoners should learn their place instead of protesting against unfair policies? I'm overthinking

 

[Sunhay]

@LeRyzz Honestly her argument wasn't an ode to the ancien régime (which is basicaly Napoleon and the French Empire) but rather an ode to the divine right of kings and nobility. She's implying that commoners who wish to go beyond what their birth determined them to be are a problem and should rather support nobility and kings. (so again not the ancien régime but the divine right of kings which is a totally different period).
@SheilaSkypelt you understood it right and what's more strange is that it's a chinese webtoon. I mean they boast about their system and the destruction of the nobility so having a heroine say that is rather strange. I mean I would have understood the argument if it came from a country where royalty and nobility have a pretty hard grip on the country but China... wtf

 

[Darkmint13]

@SheilaSkypelt @Tensaitkuroneko I might be overthinking this but I think she meant that there is a reason the people support nobles and royalty. That is due to the fact that they have a duty to take care of the people but when you change it to normal rich people and poor people, no one has the duty to take care of others.

Of course, both systems have their faults but I think she's saying the south overlooked that part.

 

[Eplayer]

thanks for the chapter

 

[Tensaitkuroneko]

@darkmint13 they have the royalty for that though. I doubt the south abolished the monarchy all together? And even if they did, it isn't like there's anarchy - there has to be some sort of a system of government to take care of the society.

Otherwise I agree, noblesse oblige is a thing, just like how old rich families have set up trusts for donation and everything.

 

[Jojobun]

Does anyone know when she's gonna face some difficulties. She doesn't seem to have anything to change like the title of the manhwa says

 

[Darkmint13]

@Tensaitkuroneko if manga has taught me anything(lol)... It's the nobles, especially those at the edge of the country(along the border), that take care of the people on their land and in their area. They collects taxes and do stuff. I'm assuming the rich people aren't doing that. Also it would take too long for royalty to hear about problems.(How big is the country, anyway? I forgot. If it's small then maybe not...)

Also a young government would need to work out the kinks. So there won't be anarchy, just a lot of problems that need to be thought through. As long as they don't put that sister in charge, it should be fine.

But hard it's to say what is or isn't happening though since the author can write this however they want.

 

[Meri08]

Thank you for the update!

 

[LeRyzz]

@Sunhay Not to be mean to you friend, but you have totally messed up the definition of the Society of Ancien Régime: It's what was in place before the French Revolution and the Napoleonic revolutionary empire (15th - 18th), specifically what you have written as "not" that. Ancien Régime, basically a late western european feudal society of orders supervised by a king / leaders whose authorities are generally legitimized by the divine himself. The subject is vast and can't be resumed here in a three line commentary evidently, but you seemed to have made a confusion.

 

[Sunhay]

@LeRyzz actually Yup lost in translation if I could say (I lost myself). Anyway what she's saying is still an ode to the divine rights of kings (and so to the ancien régime) which is honestly rare to see from an heroine (usually more up to modern standard and moral value).
Again mb for the ancien régime (guess it's time to go to bed xD)

 

[Qelix]

Wtf? That's messed up. She pointed out one (given major) flaw, that the powerful use their power to become more powerful and keep their positions. But aristocratic societies share that flaw. It's even what this form of society is build around. Democracies try to abolish that flaw. That's the point! Well, every form of society has that flaw, even practiced communism.

One could also argue, that rich people tend to wage their wars with money instead of the sword.

And don't get me started about the "One should accept the position one is born into."-bs. It isn't just inhuman to cut away that degree of freedom (Just because people won't die from this, it doesn't mean they don't suffer. It seems that people have in inborn instinct for this kind of freedom, as criticism of "accept your position" always turns up.), it is also very stupid, as you hinder a major part of potential of your people to emerge.

One could argue that societies exists to give people security. True enough. But this is just the means for them to live happier lives. If you accomplish to maintain security by taking away too much happiness from the people (just so much they instinctively notice the absence of something they truly want), that form of society isn't needed anymore, as it failed one of its major purposes (, if not even THE major porpose).

I'm also glad others criticized that part of the chapter, too.

 

[GreenDragonSage]

@darkmint13 Well said, re: comment about duty. That was what I was sensing she was saying, but couldn't seem to articulate it.

I've visited numerous manga sites for about 8 years now, and regularly read comments. I just gotta say that I am the most impressed with mangadex readers. I've haven't seen the degree of thankful readers for translators' hard work like I do here. And I've seen more well thought out and intelligent comments here as well, than I have elsewhere. And everyone speaks civilly. I love mangadex, not just because of the variety, but also because of what the readers who comment bring to it.

Thanks for the chapter!

 

[4sarah1212]

Lol, did the author use that bridge to symbolize their first night together?? XD

P.S. After reading the comments beneath me, the fact that I didn't even question her logic and the only thing that I thought of after this chapter was the above.... I feel so uncultured haha.

 

[Teelaish]

From seeing others translations is basically that MC believes strongly in Noblesse Oblique, and the north strongly enforces it so society runs smoothly there.

Meanwhile in her home country, with nobility on the decline and an asset hierarchy being enforced without responsibilities over those assets, the society is suffering from a void in order. MC and probably her inner circle tried to fill the void but is clear that they aren't enough to do it when people get behind someone who dislikes what they do because she has a basic misunderstanding on why they are doing it.

What she says is applicable only to the society she is seeing, and I wouldn't make a 1:1 translations to ours, I guess magic must still makes several differences in their society and ours to go around making comparisons.

Also let's not forget that she is trying to get into the influential sphere of her new country and praising their successes is a certain shortcut to it.