A Woman Who Is Too Honest Despite Her Kyoto Dialect

[MangaDex]

 

[Mute2732]

I think somethings being lost in translation

 

[hymnote]

No woman who is too honest despite her Kyoto dialect in my area. Why even live?

 

[Mudslinger1]

Just think of her using a Southern or Posh accent and if that doesn't do the trick, give her a New Jersey accent in your head.

 

[goldencircle]

Just think of her using a Southern or Posh accent and if that doesn't do the trick, give her a New Jersey accent in your head.

When someone says they have an accent in manga, I imagine it's a bit like the bogan accent.

 

[Admiralmuffin]

Choko flashbacks

 

[bravelittlecomma]

Why do I even read those? All they do is remind me of how much of a lonely fuck I am and make me wanna ALT+F4 more than usual.
This is some weird form of masochism.

 

[Trash_Connoisseur]

This doesn't work getting translated.

 

[Lewd_Beast]

Surely this is just self-published? I read all 7 chapters while thinking was was just reading Chapter 1.

 

[AlbaSailex]

Okay so for context from what I understand from looking it up (feel free to correct me on this)

Due to regional dialect differences sometimes people mistake the people using Kyoto dialect as being sarcastic or snarky or condescending due to tone and intonation which folk from other areas might not be used to.


Comparing it to being posh seems somewhat more accurate than comparing it to American southern dialect.

 

[Cylindryk]

As English isn't my native, I totally feel like 90% of this manga is lost in translation for me.
And, well, being lonely, depressed and... unable to trusty anyone, it also hits me when I don't like.

If this would happen to me, I would just scream, break down and cry... :/

 

[Jestured]

As English isn't my native, I totally feel like 90% of this manga is lost in translation for me.
And, well, being lonely, depressed and... unable to trusty anyone, it also hits me when I don't like.

If this would happen to me, I would just scream, break down and cry... :/

Sarcasm is often lost in english text so even english firsts will have a hard time without the context

 

[CactusTheCringe]

I don't really care about the dialect, I'm just glad these two are honest with themselves

 

[Denamic]

I think somethings being lost in translation

Yes, but it's also a cultural thing. People from Kyoto are generally 'hated' in the rest of Japan, as they are often seen as arrogant and two-faced. Kyoto used to be the capital for a very long time, during which everything outside of Kyoto was considered barbaric and uncivilized, and some of that attitude remains in the local culture. Another facet is also how you're never honest in casual conversations in Kyoto, which is where the two-faced aspect comes from. Imagine British people asking each other how they are. No one actually wants to know, and you're expected to say you're fine however you actually feel. That, but stretched over every conversation. Navigating a 'polite' conversation is like navigating a minefield of subtext and hidden meanings.

This is why an honest person from Kyoto is seen as kind of an oxymoron and them saying what they actually feel would be confusing.

 

[Done25]

Why do I even read those? All they do is remind me of how much of a lonely fuck I am and make me wanna ALT+F4 more than usual.
This is some weird form of masochism.

When you compliment a girl on looking cute, so she responds by screaming that you're a sexually harassing rapist.

 

[ankiwi]

This is forced af. Yeah their first meeting him misunderstanding her is fine but continuing to do so after knowing it's because of how she talks she can be misunderstood is annoying of him. Don't see how anyone could find someone like that attractive or fun to be around.

 

[PyroclasticFlow]

kinda feels like this sort of concept is borderline un-localizeable, at least without a whole lot of modification

 

[N2O]

Ah yes, the infamously dishonest Kyoto-people. Rare to find a honest one, this might just be the happening of the century thank jeebus it's just fiction, the universe might have imploded if a real Kyoto native actually was honest IRL

 

[Nebylou]

Yes, but it's also a cultural thing. People from Kyoto are generally 'hated' in the rest of Japan, as they are often seen as arrogant and two-faced. Kyoto used to be the capital for a very long time, during which everything outside of Kyoto was considered barbaric and uncivilized, and some of that attitude remains in the local culture. Another facet is also how you're never honest in casual conversations in Kyoto, which is where the two-faced aspect comes from. Imagine British people asking each other how they are. No one actually wants to know, and you're expected to say you're fine however you actually feel. That, but stretched over every conversation. Navigating a 'polite' conversation is like navigating a minefield of subtext and hidden meanings.

This is why an honest person from Kyoto is seen as kind of an oxymoron and them saying what they actually feel would be confusing.

Technically this,

I remember this story about Kyoto from a Japanese chanel :
While in a restaurant for a little more than a hour, the waitress came to their table and asked "would you like a third refill of tea ?"
A random person would find the gesture nice, but in Kyoto, it means "you've overstayed your welcome, please leave".

That is the kind of subtleties and hidden meaning you would find in this former capital city, which in turn would lead to misunderstandings and conflicts, and a nasty stereotype.

I believe one would have to explain the context before going into the translation, as it's a very local thing.

 

[Drunkendx]

I think somethings being lost in translation

You don't say... 😉

I've never been as confused reading a manga as with this one (didn't know about Kyoto stereotypes before reading it so I call it a win since I learned something new)