one one hand, i get what you saying, it doesn't actual confirm yet like for 100%
This is the textbook example of how homophobia lobotomizes your brain and takes away your media literacy
Believe me, the moment the play is over and both confirm their feelings for each other, i will download Akebi and add it to my yurimanga folder. I am just not trusting it becauseone one hand, i get what you saying, it doesn't actual confirm yet like for 100%
on other hand, don't need to be so trauma and be that cautious. Despite i saw many cop out and i have take it all into account. Mark my word, this would be the dumpest move if mangaka cop out. This will be yuri, belive it.
Just have faith, mate. Akebi said "it is not act".
If it not, we can just go riot them together
Twitter is that way.
Yeah that can be argued, it'd be a pretty shit argument though that ignores the the meaning of the play and the surrounding context/how she's been previously
Tf you mean? I don't even use Twitter lmao. You should take your schizo pills you sounds super paranoid lol
What is your counterargument besides your shallow "they said it so i take it at face value and ignore everything else going on"? All you did was just talking shit to me without ever making one good argument against the ponytail symbolism. Im waiting. Make ONE good argument against this "shitty" one of mine. I am always open to change my mind.
The argument is that Komichi and Erika got a full-page color spread dedicated to their romantic pool dive and then after an arc trying to figure out what love is she declared she wants to be with Erika forever
You are so stupid i dont even know where to begin. Reread the manga. Also dont quote me anymore.
This entire arc is about Akebi understanding what love is with it starting with her and Erika doing a confession scene for the club in the church where Chiarashi pointed out Akebi's confession wasn't romantic, when Kojou initially wrote the play it wasn't just about two people falling in love it was about an idol (Akebi) and a pianist (Erika) falling in love, the entire play is an allegory for Akebi and Erika exploring and coming to understand their feelings for each other, like a very on the nose one. With specific regards to your point about the ponytail symbolism, Erika wasn't wearing her hair in a ponytail when in chapter 56 Erika suggests she completely take on her role and Akebi responds that she will fall in love for real, nor is Erika wearing a ponytail in the next chapter when they act out a fairly romantic scene, nor is Erika wearing a ponytail in chapter 66 when Akebi asks Erika to watch her and tell her if she touched her heart.
So far so good.
It doesn't mean their "method acting" began the moment Erika put up the ponytail. Other than that, just look at chapter 71 page 7, when Erika says "I wont be able to stay this close and touch you much longer". How would you imply it given the context of the play? Are these just dialogue they train? Or are these also Erika's true feelings? Erika knows that the play is a pretext, and a good chance, to get closer to Akebi. I do kind of think Erika is in love (ai, not koi) with Akebi and Erika has a firm understanding of her love to her.
I love how you disgregard the rest. Erika not only puts up a ponytail, she changes her clothing completely. Shirt, pants, ponytail. She looks boy-ish exactly why? Think about it. Who is the play about? This is not just her getting serious. This is a trope often seen in yuri.
If you followed until now you will understand why this does not check out. I see the points you are making, i just can not agree with them. Not because i want to be right ( i want you to be right) but because i am just not convinced.
Well, I can't say I agree with your points, they don't convince me at all and I'm far too tired to go through all of that with specific points. I'd say if you followed until now you'd understand why this is all very obviously yuri with obvious crushes that justify it more than necessary (and you do agree that's what Erika feels at least), so yeah...
You know, i atleast appreciate you typing out your opinion on this matter and i always respect someone that puts this much heart into yuri to write a whole paragraph like you did. So i always do my best to sincerely respond to it. Mind you, i hate the current western yuri fandom, because i feel like they are way too ideological and dont understand where the gay and the yuri meet.
I appreciate it, but frankly I see you as someone who is really pedantic about yuri in an annoying way that seems to greatly limit the ways and amount you can actually appreciate the genre (and pedantic in like, a bad gatekeeping way, how you define yuri seems whack based on what I've seen you say previously). Like you got a ton of conviction but you're also stuck up on ideological stuff, like not liking whatever "progressive zeitgeist lens" doesn't mean shit besides refusing to engage with the actual progressive and other political themes that are actually present within a number of yuri manga. Idk, makes me feel like you love an imagined ideal of the genre and get mad when other people engage with it differently.
I just know what yuri is and its roots, wich many here dont. I read yuri for over 16 years now and i am very elitist, yes. My opinions on this genre are nothing controversial and are shared broadly once you get into specific circles that call themselves yuri otaku.
Yeah uh, that hard splitting of 2D/anime/yuri manga and real life lesbianism is just, dumb as shit. A fair amount of both yuri mangaka and readers are lesbians (like, in Japan (it's something like 30%), Idk American stats) and that very much effects the genre, if you're unwilling to accept/understand the connection between them then that's just, dumb.
I am not "hard splitting" it. I feel like you want to misunderstand me. And japanese yuri readers usually have a better understanding of the medium, unlike the western readers. Anyways, if you dont have anything else to add, i would end the discussion here.
