Akuyaku Reijou no Oyome-sama - Vol. 3 Ch. 13

[UdenEmpati]

Her life was turned upside down. She was banished; it wasn't simply reputation. It doesn't tantamount to death, but if you cared at least a little bit for someone, you would've done a little digging rather than just say "the rumors might be true".

But I agree my statement doesn't account for the entirety of the events. I'm as clueless as everyone is on how Aurora operates. Given what we're fed though, it's not strange to find Aurora's characterization messy.

You say she should have gone digging, but what would she be expected to find?

Per Aurora's statements in this chapter, she was largely removed and separated from Karina while the older sister was engaged, because Aurora was still sickly and weak.
During that time, it's shown that Orlando, displeased he was "given Karina", started badmouthing her and that became rumors that spread like wildfire through the palace and among the nobility. Orlando sought to sully Karina's name, to make it easier to justify breaking their engagement the moment he could claim Aurora instead.

And the moment the engagement is broken, Karina's hauled off, and the palace under order of the King himself began destroying every record of Karina's presence and of the time she was Princess Consort.

When Eve goes around interviewing nobles trying to get to the bottom of who the Mysterious Villainess was, she heard the same rumors that had been spreading for two years, and all written records were otherwise destroyed--or thus disposed of, after the King finds out Eve got her hands on one small set of intact documents.

That's a concerted effort of propaganda and revisionist history spanning years aimed at utterly besmirching and then erasing Karina's name and reputation, ongoing even when Aurora was still recovering and not in physical proximity to hear or witness anything directly.

What exactly is she supposed to believe as far as the rumors go, except what she remembers of Karina from their childhood together, when they were close?
We know Karina was prone to pleasing everyone, and we see bits of flashbacks and past moments where the words spoken to her were framed to get her to say certain things and act in certain ways, and Karina complied, believing she was making allies and acting as a future queen should. She was lied to and manipulated, but she still did those things in eanestness, only to have the optics twisted, likely exaggerated, and effectively weaponized to destroy her reputation as Orlando desired.

Aurora's saying the rumors might be true, because she can't verify, because the records are gone and the entire kingdom is singing the same song set forth by Orlando and the Crown.

 

[JustReadingShit]

Pretty interesting that the first time we actually see Aurora away from Orlando she drops the stoic persona and actually smiles and presents a more mellow personality

 

[dazedaze1111]

We finally see another side of Aurora, I can smell the obssesive siscon's reeks from her

 

[lewdargie]

bitch wtf? why didn't you stop your fiance from exiling her, sending assasins, trying to kill her in the first place?

 

[deathpigeon]

bitch wtf? why didn't you stop your fiance from exiling her, sending assasins, trying to kill her in the first place?

He's basically the second most powerful man in the country and she was barely even his fiance at the time.

 

[Mlfg_AK]

She actively sabotaged her sister over and over

After she took her fiance?

She can't be that oblivious

I wonder if we read the same stuff bc holy mischaracterization 💀 I'll give u that Aurora's past inaction and recent urge to help has been her greatest flaw but come on! it has been suspected from the beginning that the prince never wanted karina nor karina was in love w him. She's not oblivious perse, she just never considered Karina might be going through actual hell and that she may have a part in that, bc again aparently karina never complain abt until now (tho I also have the theory that Aurora set up to break the engagement bc she knew her sister was miserable, but now i'm not so sure) all this to say that, yeah Aurora's recent actions are suspicious as hell, but i don't think she was as antagonizing as Karina makes her be.

And Altho Karina has said that Aurora has taken everything from her. that was a very Biased claim from as we have seen it was (apparently mostly) their parents favoring Aurora bc she was a "sickly" child. I had theorized in previous chapters that bc of Aurora sense of duty and being the older sister even if she was asked how she was, how she felt about the whole ordeal(before being banished) she was going to say she was fine bc that was what it was expected from her and this chapter just confirms it. she is a people pleaser. Karina had been trying to live as the perfect lady her parents thought they were raising (and that's where most of her resentment comes from)

 

[Homura]

this shit gets dumber by the chapter

 

[CarmillaKriegstein]

First Karina's "revenge" ended up being the biggest nothingburger of all time and now her sister wants to "save" her despite both her actions and inaction being a significant source of Karina's misery.

 

[yanderecoverl]

Smh wheres my teasing sapphics

 

[Diced]

You say she should have gone digging, but what would she be expected to find?

Per Aurora's statements in this chapter, she was largely removed and separated from Karina while the older sister was engaged, because Aurora was still sickly and weak.
During that time, it's shown that Orlando, displeased he was "given Karina", started badmouthing her and that became rumors that spread like wildfire through the palace and among the nobility. Orlando sought to sully Karina's name, to make it easier to justify breaking their engagement the moment he could claim Aurora instead.

And the moment the engagement is broken, Karina's hauled off, and the palace under order of the King himself began destroying every record of Karina's presence and of the time she was Princess Consort.

When Eve goes around interviewing nobles trying to get to the bottom of who the Mysterious Villainess was, she heard the same rumors that had been spreading for two years, and all written records were otherwise destroyed--or thus disposed of, after the King finds out Eve got her hands on one small set of intact documents.

That's a concerted effort of propaganda and revisionist history spanning years aimed at utterly besmirching and then erasing Karina's name and reputation, ongoing even when Aurora was still recovering and not in physical proximity to hear or witness anything directly.

What exactly is she supposed to believe as far as the rumors go, except what she remembers of Karina from their childhood together, when they were close?
We know Karina was prone to pleasing everyone, and we see bits of flashbacks and past moments where the words spoken to her were framed to get her to say certain things and act in certain ways, and Karina complied, believing she was making allies and acting as a future queen should. She was lied to and manipulated, but she still did those things in eanestness, only to have the optics twisted, likely exaggerated, and effectively weaponized to destroy her reputation as Orlando desired.

Aurora's saying the rumors might be true, because she can't verify, because the records are gone and the entire kingdom is singing the same song set forth by Orlando and the Crown.

Another thing to possibly consider is that the engagement to dipshit Orlando is still in place, so she can't suddenly say the rumors are wrong. The mother had to disguise herself to make sure to provide some sort of info to prevent her daughter from being completely erased or completely sullied prior to the wedding. The sister is still attached to him, so if she does something that pisses him, which in case this, he may do something that will worsen her family or put Karina in an even worse situation.

The prince is only allowing the situation to continue now, as he was completely thrown off-guard by the sister and she still seems to 'act' on his side

 

[deathpigeon]

First Karina's "revenge" ended up being the biggest nothingburger of all time and now her sister wants to "save" her despite both her actions and inaction being a significant source of Karina's misery.

What actions of hers were "a significant source of Karina's misery"?

 

[kiero13]

Nooooo this troupe is gonna get me i want these sisters to understand each other 😭

 

[Senros]

I wonder if we read the same stuff bc holy mischaracterization 💀 I'll give u that Aurora's past inaction and recent urge to help has been her greatest flaw but come on! it has been suspected from the beginning that the prince never wanted karina nor karina was in love w him. She's not oblivious perse, she just never considered Karina might be going through actual hell and that she may have a part in that, bc again aparently karina never complain abt until now (tho I also have the theory that Aurora set up to break the engagement bc she knew her sister was miserable, but now i'm not so sure) all this to say that, yeah Aurora's recent actions are suspicious as hell, but i don't think she was as antagonizing as Karina makes her be.

And Altho Karina has said that Aurora has taken everything from her. that was a very Biased claim from as we have seen it was (apparently mostly) their parents favoring Aurora bc she was a "sickly" child. I had theorized in previous chapters that bc of Aurora sense of duty and being the older sister even if she was asked how she was, how she felt about the whole ordeal(before being banished) she was going to say she was fine bc that was what it was expected from her and this chapter just confirms it. she is a people pleaser. Karina had been trying to live as the perfect lady her parents thought they were raising (and that's where most of her resentment comes from)

Yes, it's basically all their parents fault for favoring the sickly young child. Aurora would have nothing to do with it if she was actually sick. But, was she actually sick? Who knows. If she was, why isn't she sick anymore? Even if she was a sick child and was justified to some degree, she did take things from her, willingly. (see the flashback in chapter 1, page 18).
Sure, you could blame the parents for making Karina give her sister the toy she was just gifted by her uncle, you could blame Karina for not saying no and being a people pleaser, but you could also blame Aurora for probably taking advantage of an illness she may not even have had.
Children learn quite quickly that some actions get them what they want. "Oh, if I act sick I can get all the attention of my parents to myself? And even get anything I want, even if it belongs to someone else?"

But yes, maybe she had a reason. We don't know that yet. Maybe she was actually sick. Maybe she never meant to hurt her sister. Maybe she was trying to help her in her own clumsy way. We don't know. Maybe she did try to save her from the prince at the end... by taking her place as the princess... leaving the already hated Karina with zero backers to help her, leading to her being basically exiled... Who knows. We still don't have a clear picture.

But it is messed up to kind of blame the one who got fucked over by the world. Sure, she was a people pleaser, but does that give anyone the right to walk all over her and hurt her? It is similar to saying "it's the victim's fault they got sexually harrassed because they were wearing revealing clothes." Karina learned that her parents would praise her and give her attention, if she acted the way they wanted (like the perfect lady). Aurora learned she could get her parents attention, if she was sick. The fault lies 99% on the parents, but that doesn't mean Aurora didn't do anything wrong.

I'm not saying Karina is a saint. You can understand why she acted like that, but that doesn't absolve her from her wrongdoings. She was pretty bitchy as the prince's fiancee, but her family fucked her over. The prince did, too. The prince never wanted Karina. He always wanted Aurora, but because she was "sick" their parents basically told them (the prince and king), "Yo, get my other daughter instead. If my sick daughter gets better, you can swap them if you want, no problem at all." Well, what got the prince to swap them and everyone to accept is still not super clear. One part is Karina's own fault for being a bitch to everyone. The other is Aurora getting healed or getting tired of pretending to be sick. Both sisters are somewhat to blame, even if it was mostly the parent's fault.

 

[yuri_enjoyers]

I don't really like this series. The main couple is a non-consensual relationship. And if the sister seriously wanted to help the main character she could have helped her earlier so that she wouldn't have been driven out of the Kingdom. Even if she was sick she could have still sent the MC invitations to talk.

I understand what your saying but I feel like this is a series that starts off in not good suition and elvoles into story wroth reading

 

[yuri_enjoyers]

Dispite everyone saying this is bad writing i think that's the point no one thinks that prince is the bad guy, cause that's how it was. the prince could do no wrong, history is like that, that's how they were raised to think the sister is raised to believe that, this isn't full of plot holes it's realistic to it's time. That's my two cents

 

[MelonManic]

I don't think it's that serious bro
You should show respect to whoever your marry out of basic respect of their well-being and the concept of, and get this mate I'm sure you've never heard of it, you ready?
EMPATHY, did you get it? Here lemme type it again in a different font, EMPATHY, empathy Empathy EmPAthY eMpaThy, you get it yet? Not a bone in yer body has heard of the concept is I figure I should introduce you, you see the concept is the idea that other people feel things too, yeah I know wild concept, it can be best compared to how you feel things, though not exact cause your different people and not everyone loves to abuse though below them, but you get the idea I'm sure if your brain is larger than a walnut
See how would you feel if you were in her shoes and she were talking to you in such a way?
I'll wait...
Got me fucking talking to a fictional character again
Whatever bro just don't act surprised when she comes back for revenge, or to scare your tounge down your throat AHAH

Faking thy sleep? Minor inconvenience

Such energy miss military stuff, dear you... Oh... OH...
I see... I wish you luck in your endeavors, may they be...
Yuriful
Yes what a fantastic devolpment, curious of it'll devolp further and if a certain bum will be removed from the picture for such devolpments

Aw lookie lil sisterly bond, see blood strong as... Blood
I believe she'll be able to save her sister, trust and faith


Have a morally nice day : )

 

[karpad]

Thanks for your work!

 

[Mlfg_AK]

she did take things from her, willingly. (see the flashback in chapter 1, page 18).
Sure, you could blame the parents for making Karina give her sister the toy she was just gifted by her uncle, you could blame Karina for not saying no and being a people pleaser, but you could also blame Aurora for probably taking advantage of an illness she may not even have had.
Children learn quite quickly that some actions get them what they want. "Oh, if I act sick I can get all the attention of my parents to myself? And even get anything I want, even if it belongs to someone else?"

Willingly, right after the parents told Karina to give it to her. yes.
there no hint (as far as i saw) of any instance, not even on karina's twisted perception, of Aurora playing the sick child card to get what she wanted.

But it is messed up to kind of blame the one who got fucked over by the world. Sure, she was a people pleaser, but does that give anyone the right to walk all over her and hurt her? It is similar to saying "it's the victim's fault they got sexually harrassed because they were wearing revealing clothes."

I think you're confused💀 I never said karina deserved any of what happened to her bc she was a people pleaser just that being so was key to what happened. heck she is victim of neglect and her anger is justified but misdirected. (reiterating that Aurora is very suspicious but she not a devil either, at least w i've seen so far)

Karina wasn't being docile bc it got her parent's attention, she did it bc she loved her family and wanted to see them happy at the time even at the cost of her own happiness, that why she broke when even when she was supposedly doing everything right people weren't happy. she acting like bitch could also be attributed to her parents since they prob told her that's how royals act and i'm sure those royal jerks act like that and worse but bc they didn't like Karina (prob bc of the prine) they were most likely exaggerating the rumors.

I think The only blame the sister's hold in this is Karina acting as she thought she should and Aurora doing nothing abt what happened til now.

But i'll agree w something. we don't know. all this is just speculation. but i choose to believe given the evidence i've seen.

 

[Arelle]

I don't know what's happening anymore man can we just give the spotlight back to Karina and wolfie cause what even is happening. All these narrations and assumptions about Karina from Eve's perspective is getting tiring. Eve is great but i was hooked to this story first because of Karina and i want to see her pov. And we don't even see Karina and Reshutoka's relationship just another commentary from Eve and her basing the relationship to a book. I just miss them bruh