Akuyaku Reijou no Oyome-sama - Vol. 2 Ch. 11

[DerpySausage]

The pacing of this series feels like complete trash in recent chapters. How troubling.

 

[snipesalot0]

Miss Wolf must have some crazy tongue game if it's enough to kill someone.

 

[TheEnd478]

That was her big revenge? Wrecking the church and stealing the ring? I thought she was going to conquer the entire country with an army of beastmen.

She reveals she's alive, she KNOWS what that crummy former "Father in Law" of hers and the POS "ex" would do now that they THINK she's dead, and waiting this long was meant to HUMILATE them because they were so sure she was dead and can FORGET her as they erase her and think "everything is going well for them! Prince Charmless ESPECIALLY!"

By revealing herself ALIVE, it ruins "their peace of mind" since she wrecked the wedding, stole the "Royal Ring of the Queen" and jut WALKED out (well bridal carried out) without anyone being able to do ANYTHING! This is a HUGE Humiliation for the Royals that she was able to do that and Prince Charmless could do nothing but BARK like the Toothless Dog that he is! (Oh and ruin what should have been her sister's "perfect day!")

And you just pointed it out, "An Army of Beastman" and going back to the North, this will NOT be like before when those assassins almost got her, sending anyone after her would be sending them to their DEATH in the north against a POWERFUL monster race that KNOW THE LAND WAY BETTER THEN ANY ROYAL ASSASSIN WITH TRACKING SKILLS. They WILL try see just how DETERMINED Charmless and his Father were about erasing her from memory (Which you do when you don't want ANY opinion but what you want on someone KEPT, no evidence means anyone who DOES notice her in history will have to GUESS, all while they make THEMSELVES look better in the process, that and I'm sure it would also "bring up questions, they wanted her DEAD so they wouldn't be asked!"

This REVENGE was basically "for once, they LOST control!" After how she was HUMILATED and "Ran out of the Capital" while Charmless "acted like some HERO protecting a Saintess" (To cover him being a FILTHY cheater with her own SISTER). Now he lost control, he could only watch HELPLESSLY throwing a tantrum like a child "Still" (showing he never grew up when it's been what a year or so!) And he WILL feel HUGELY slighted by her CONTINUED existance and not getting his WAY. (You'd think he'd be more FOCUSED on her sister! But it's clear "her death/erasure" and the sister "as his" is him being a SPOILED BRAT who jut wants what he wants DAMN the consquences, yet he DOES have SOME awareness of them, if only to himself and his father, his father most of all as "the great enabler" for him!)

You could say this is her PERSONAL Revenge (Against her parents, she KNOWS they'll be HAPPY to have her forgotten if it "protects the family honor" by her never existing to "embrass them!" Also reminder she is unaware or even if she was "wouldn't care" about her mother's "change of heart" as it's MUCH too late for her to be "a good mother NOW!

 

[3turtlesinacoat]

Thanks for the chapter.
Idk it seems like the implication is that aurora actually cares deeply about her sister and is doing/has done alot of the stuff for her sake but i dont really buy it.

Mostly just because alot of Karinas suffering stems from her and couldve easily been prrvented if aurora just... talked about it then she wouldve been alot happier, no?

So unless shes playing some sort of 4d chess where karina needs to suffer to achive maximum happiness, aurora has done a rather shit job at helping her sister if thats been her intention all along

 

[Jenst]

Ohhh big revenge ohhhh, do authors not know what revenge fucking is?

 

[UdenEmpati]

This chapter made me lose complete interest in the story

practically the ONLY good ch was ch 1

like isn't it crazy how you have 2 interesting designed characters aka MC and her wife

and for several chapters you don't show them AT ALL but instead you show OTHER characters MIND you we ONLY have 11 chapters

and when she FINALLY shows up for revenge, no one dies............

this shit SMELLS of being axed before ch 20 and its hilarious

The series is doing great over in Japan.

People saying "I don't like this story therefore it must be getting axed" really are something, though.

 

[Rafalga]

It's kind of bold to assume the wolf girl would kill karina if she doesn't love her back.

We don't know that much about her but she doesn't strike me as a kill someone for "not loving me back," kind of character.

Now she'll probably be pissed that karina lied to her. Wolfie getting used and then told later that karina doesn't actually love her or want to be with her will hurt fr. I don't see the wolf wanting to kill karina over it though.

I also want to believe that wolfie isn't trying to just recreate a story. She actually likes karina. You don't kill someone you like for not liking you back. Karina did use the wolf for her revenge but idk if that's a great reason to kill someone either. It just doesn't seem like a logical path the wolf would take.

All that said, I have a terrible memory and can't remember if the cute wolf girl is actually unhinged in any way.

She isn't and story doesn't even fit this anyway. Karina "used" wolf princess? How? She didn't kill anyone, she didn't used the tribe as an army or anything. Wolf just screamed at a cathedral, carried Karina inside then carried her out. It hardly counts as "used" in any meaningful way. I don't think Wolf is psychopathic enough to just kill her over something this simple.

Overall, pretty lame and pointless "revenge". Also, even if sister is somehow on Karina's side, her actions till now tells a different story and any "but she was misunderstood" will just come across as an asspull for redemption. She has never and still isn't making a good case for herself.

 

[TheEnd478]

The series is doing great over in Japan.

People saying "I don't like this story therefore it must be getting axed" really are something, though.

Agreed. I think the REAL hate is the long ass update timing which can KILL the pacing (If you are a ONE Piece fan or hell a Dragon Ball, you know how it is)

I'm stubborn so I'll stick with it till the end, but stuff like this is WHY I usually put a story on hold and then BINGE when alot of chapters come out or it CONCLUDES so I get the entire story uninterrupted and can make my conclusions rather then well. This was my one issue with BERSERK as I read it in my teens, put it on hold, LIFE happened, I fucking FORGOT that I read it AGAIN at 25, and then "happened again while I waited" that I started read reading AGAIN shortly before Keitaro Miura Death May he Rest in Peace (God I want to SKIP the Golden Age Arc, even in it's ANIMATIONS/FILMS it always kept FOCUSING on that Arc! It's like watching a new Batman movie and seeing the death of the Waynes" over and OVER again! I thin Harley Quinn the Show made fun of this in "Batman Begins Forever" and yeah I'm HAPPY if Superhero movies do what James Gunn did with Superman, just fucking SKIP the Origin story and get to the story when the Hero is "already established" instead of another "Hero Begins" as it's done TOO MANY FUCKING TIMES already! Even the PS5 "Marvel's Spider-Man" after a DROUGHT of Spider-Man games up to that point, opted to just begin ITS universe with him ALREADY a year or so as Spider-Man already instead of redoing his Origin Story! I might go through it ONE MORE FUCKING TIME in my life in his honor, but never again after that!) I have to know ALL the details of a story so I don't miss DETAILS

I'm an Impatient man. Guess as I get older (currently 39) my OCD and ADHD starts to push me to being more impatient.

 

[Hresvelg_]

Doomed yuri aside, I don't really like the direction the manga is going

 

[MsW0lf]

I’m gonna pull together a few threads here to posit a theory about where we’re headed.

People are saying that the revenge was anti-climactic. And you’re right. It was. As horrible as Orlando has smeared her to be, she herself hasn’t killed anyone. There is a huge difference between wanting to kill someone, contemplating it, and ACTUALLY going through with it.

But that also doesn’t mean that the “revenge“ is over. Pulling at the fairytale thread we need a catalyst for Reshtoka to become suspicious of her true feelings. Karina has told her that the revenge is over, and they can now marry and put all of that behind them. But that image of her staring at the ring definitely screams that everything is not in fact behind them.

The assault on the wedding was attention seeking. Attention is the only thing Karina has ever wanted. If she killed the Prince And taken over the capital all she would have gotten was power over a kingdom she probably doesn’t want to rule when push comes to shove. And if she killed all of those who wronged her, then how would they be able to fixate on her and send armies that she can have her toy beastmen fight off? I doubt very much that Prince Orlando is going to take the humiliation he just suffered laying down. “But they can just get married without the ring?!?” That would be admitting defeat in the face of an accursed witch!

And I think there is a little too much romanticising, and (dare I say it?) anthropomorphising Reshtoka. Did y’all forget that the entire reason she’s doing this with Karina is that she saw some pretty pictures in a book and decided it would be neat to act them out? And sure, Karina’s desires for Reshtoka’s aid might seem comparatively small at the moment compared to what she could have asked for (after all, she couldn’t have attacked the capital or defended herself without Reshtoka’s aid. She’d literally be dead without her.) but that‘s only for the moment. What happens when the Prince inevitably mobilises his entire military to wipe them out? What happens when beastmen start dying and Karina is still holding out on her promise? I think beastmen are exactly the kind of people to take such a vow VERY seriously and treat breaking it with equal gravity.

And all of that will give Eve plenty of time to investigate everything with Aurora by her side (or at the very least secretly backing her) whilst cultivating an undercurrent of extreme fear and hatred towards beastmen meaning she needs to hide her identity even more! This ain’t the end of the story. It’s just revving up!

 

[galaxia9]

I quite like that as a revenge ploy. Crash the wedding, revealing yourself to be alive and deliver an impossible to ignore fuck the lot of you and steal the symbol of the role she was cast out of so as to taint it with the memory of what happened. A massacre would just mean proving herself what they claimed she was.

 

[KitsuKyouno]

She will ear her but in not, regular way.
But since they are married, maybe is regular way

 

[TheWritingWriter]

Revenge isn’t always about shedding the blood of those who wronged you. Sometimes the biggest revenge is spitting in their faces and take away their feeling of victory.

They all thought the "evil baddy Bad witch“ is dead and celebrated, only to find out she’s alive and kicking.

 

[JustReadingShit]

I do wonder if there will be some conflict or punishment for Aurora from the prince seeing as she was the one who said "Please leave it all to me" when the prince was looking to mobilize the military after Karina

 

[Litreara]

The series is doing great over in Japan.

Do you have any data on that?

I checked the Shoseki Ranking, which tracks and estimates sales of physical volumes, and volume 1 didn’t make it into the weekly list during its first week. It only appeared in the daily rankings for its first two days, showing up at #409 on the first day and #439 on the second day.

I also looked on Amazon, and despite the positive reviews, it’s not ranking very high:

I checked the author’s X account as well and didn’t see anything about reprints or sales milestones.

 

[Jackal-Lantern]

She reveals she's alive, she KNOWS what that crummy former "Father in Law" of hers and the POS "ex" would do now that they THINK she's dead, and waiting this long was meant to HUMILATE them because they were so sure she was dead and can FORGET her as they erase her and think "everything is going well for them! Prince Charmless ESPECIALLY!"

By revealing herself ALIVE, it ruins "their peace of mind" since she wrecked the wedding, stole the "Royal Ring of the Queen" and jut WALKED out (well bridal carried out) without anyone being able to do ANYTHING! This is a HUGE Humiliation for the Royals that she was able to do that and Prince Charmless could do nothing but BARK like the Toothless Dog that he is! (Oh and ruin what should have been her sister's "perfect day!")

It's still a weak attempt at revenge because it hinges on the Prince self-destructing upon her being alive. But there's a significant issue with that; the first is the Karina's sister. She shown to have the capacity to manipulate the prince to an extent, just like how she convinced the prince to let her handle Karina when the Prince had opted to bring an army against her. And what did Aurora do instead? She brought new servants and furnishings and redecorated the place where Karina was meant to stay.

There's no way that the Prince wouldn't be aware of Aurora's decision to do that considering that he had scouts regularly close to the area, hence him even knowing his attack had failed in the first place. You can argue that Aurora had convinced the prince that she'll have Karina killed with poison or something, but then results would have to be shown. So it stands to reason that Aurora had convinced the prince that Karina wasn't worth it, all the while stroking his ego.

Then there's the King; who showed the willingness to remove information about Karina and encouraged the act of vilifying her. So combine both of those things and what do you have? You have Aurora who could manipulate the prince, telling him that Karina isn't worth it and that she's doomed to die a tragic death (especially since we have Eve giving that prediction). And we have the King who could manipulate the information about the events that took place there, and spin a story about how the insane spirit of Karina had came back with her monster and how the prince valiantly fought her off while protecting his bride-to-be.

And just like that, Karina's little 'revenge' amounts to nothing. A stolen ring that was never mentioned before of being anything of significance...? Please, a kingdom as wealthy and rotten to the core as that would probably have dozen of such rings placed on the shelf.

Revenge isn’t always about shedding the blood of those who wronged you. Sometimes the biggest revenge is spitting in their faces and take away their feeling of victory.

They all thought the "evil baddy Bad witch“ is dead and celebrated, only to find out she’s alive and kicking.

And they're about to find out that she'll get devoured by a monster, which would give them another reason to celebrate. Her revenge is no revenge especially on the scale of which she had hated everyone and even schemed of getting back at them using the army of the wolf tribe. Like why would you need an army of powerful warriors, if you're not planning to use them for battle? You can't even use the argument of just wanting to defend, because as Karina already knows, the wolf tribe can be vicious and destructive; meaning that they'll kill any invaders which would again be blood on Karina's hands as she knowingly incited the kingdom for her revenge, when she could've just attacked them and got it over with.

People are saying that the revenge was anti-climactic. And you’re right. It was. As horrible as Orlando has smeared her to be, she herself hasn’t killed anyone. There is a huge difference between wanting to kill someone, contemplating it, and ACTUALLY going through with it.

But that also doesn’t mean that the “revenge“ is over. Pulling at the fairytale thread we need a catalyst for Reshtoka to become suspicious of her true feelings. Karina has told her that the revenge is over, and they can now marry and put all of that behind them. But that image of her staring at the ring definitely screams that everything is not in fact behind them.

This actually makes more sense than what some are saying. If Karina's revenge is an ongoing process, then I can see her hoping that they send an army after her, since it would have kingdom needing to travel into the mountains, the territory of the wolf tribe. Once there, they'd be vulnerable to avalanches and landslides, something the wolf tribes are adept at creating. So I can agree with this that the revenge isn't over and what we saw was just a prelude and the main stage would be bloody field of snow that buried hundreds if not thousands of soldiers, possibly leaving the kingdom defenseless to an open attack.

So if that is even a part of Karina's plan, then that's definitely a worthwhile revenge... moreso compared what we saw here... which hilariously lame.

 

[Mlfg_AK]

I thought she was going to conquer the entire country with an army of beastmen.

these beastkin, altho seem powerful, doesn't seem like the type of having a formal army at their disposal, like where are people getting the impression that they're just gonna march and murder everyone. my point is that they seem like very peaceful people(unless they're provoked).

 

[Iratana]

these beastkin, altho seem powerful, doesn't seem like the type of having a formal army at their disposal, like where are people getting the impression that they're just gonna march and murder everyone. my point is that they seem like very peaceful people(unless they're provoked).

Tbf, Karina did mention using the beastkin as an army, and we saw in one of the previous chapters that she was using some of them as informants to gather information. So it's less of what the beastkin would normally do, and more about whether Karina has the influence to command them to such extent.

 

[Mlfg_AK]

It just feels like, ok, you stopped people from talking shit about her...years after it was actually relevant and her life was ruined.

to me it feels like karina never complained openly about it, and if, let's say aurora, ever asked about it she would probably something like "i'm the eldest is okay" bc let's remember that Karina had been trying to live as the perfect lady her parents thought they were raising (and that's where most of her resentment comes from)

yet has the gall to refer to Katrina's desire for revenge as "madness", and its the only things she has to say to her sister.

thinking abt this, like we all know how everyone in court is an unreliable narrator when it comes to karina, but karina is also an unreliable narrator herself, she lived complacent of what was expected from her(until she was banished) for other people I.e Aurora, what she's doing does seems like madness bc it never seemed like she didn't like what she was doing
(idk if i explained that correctly)

HOWEVER, if things were really like that, is very hypocritical of Aurora to want to defend her now after her fiance sent assassins after her.

but also also, all of this made me think that Aurora do loves karina and figured out she wasn't happy and set her up to be banished to free her, prob played along w the prince but even after karina went missing she just assumed she was alive and happy somewhere

 

[Mlfg_AK]

and more about whether Karina has the influence to command them to such extent.

also that. I don't think that she being Reshutoka's mate would be enough for them to accept and go to war for her, at least not this quick.