Apocalypse Bringer Mynoghra: World Conquest Starts with the Civilization of Ruin - Ch. 30 - The King of Ruin

[Wolvenworks]

caught up with the raws duh

huh...you're right. i checked raws and 30 is indeed the latest ch. i wonder what's up with the hiatus? is it because of teh anime?

 

[quigonkenny]

So far we got MC with RTS.
The one idiot dude with Isekai RPG.
Demon lord army from Dragon Quest old style RPG.
And now a tabletop RPG.
What we're missing now is TBS RPG, Action RPG and Pokemon.

Judging by the level of risqué humor, I'm assuming the succubi who toppled the elven kingdom are from a Rance-like eroge, as is the idiot with the cheat sword and the fawning f---slave...?

 

[YuriA1]

Is this the last chapter? I thought the last time i read this was they were at a war with the human and human summoned angels but also got slaughtered is that a different manga? It was a different manga but with bugs

 

[aoikishi99]

Nah, the Roguelike Deckbuilder game enemy will be his toughest challenge.

Yep, the rougelike player would just lose, and kept getting stronger whenever they face em, until they couldnt win anymore.

 

[AceTheBase]

I dont understand all of the game lingo, but im all for Takuto to whoop some fucking ass!

 

[WiseOldKing]

no new chapter pain

 

[NDTNHT4]

Its been 5 fling month without any chapter what are they doing ????

 

[TScorgon]

Nah, the Roguelike Deckbuilder game enemy will be his toughest challenge.

Roguelike, so the enemy should not be really killable, after all he should just revive, no?

 

[TScorgon]

Is this the last chapter? I thought the last time i read this was they were at a war with the human and human summoned angels but also got slaughtered is that a different manga? It was a different manga but with bugs

Yep different manga that is also slow on the updates

 

[goodhunter]

Honestly, MC is not a smart dude. I've read the a brief summary on characters before actually reading this manga, and they made it seem like MC was really smart, but honestly the dude always seems to have so many false assumptions he makes on what is possible. He's already seen many instances of things happening completely outside of his expectations, and yet he still isn't careful and makes wild assumptions on how things will go and ends up getting fucked over. At the same time, maybe what I'm saying is just pointless, rather it's because the author wills it to happen for the sake of the plot that no matter how illogical it would be or out of character, it'll happen regardless because the plot demands it.

 

[goodhunter]

If all of those things were indeed fatal but he did not die, and his HQ was destroyed, I presume he can not be defeated unless all his units are dead before him. He can rebuild his nation as long as there is one unit to his name, and has enough resources.
Reminds me of some C&C skirmishes where I had to explore the whole map to find THAT ONE LAST UNIT.

I mean, that's how Starcraft and other games similar work right? Just because you destroyed their Nexus/Command Center/Hive, doesn't mean the game is over. Either the player has to concede, or every building has to be destroyed. They didn't destroy a single building of theirs, all they did was attack the player, in which technically the players don't actually exist on the playing field in RTS. The player takes control of units and buildings, but they're not actually present in the game itself. So perhaps that's why he can't die. Or maybe his life is tied to Atou, since when he actually started in the beginning after being isekai'd, all he had was Atou. Either way, there are plenty of explanations as to why he revived and it wasn't game over for him.

 

[Coldlight]

So Atou really was taken away. Did she change forms or something? She's called a "sludge" so maybe she turned into that when they abducted her...

Hmm. I wrongly assumed he was successfully assassinated and for some yet-to-be-explained power or mechanic, revived. Instead he took two lethal attacks but somehow didn't die from it. Anyway, indeed the enemy is a tabletop RPG player, given all those talk of dice rolls and "saving throws".

How deeply ironic is it that their actions awoke the prophesied King of Ruin? He was peacefully minding his own business with no plans to attack or conquer, but their first strike changed everything. Would like to see how he dispatched all those monsters by himself though.

 

[BanzaiYuri]

I've not played much 4e, but can you really reroll as much as you like? That sounds so fucking lame...

 

[BanzaiYuri]

Its "persuasion" in the dumbest interpretation of it.

the ability of the guy who has the dnd power is he is a dm and can force a nat20. So they did a persuasion check to convert atou to their side. It changed her into an NPC on the "players" (his witch) side. Its bullshit stupid. Like yeah, a DM can let their players do stupid shit and get away with it but its such terrible DMing and it infuriates me. They nat20 the sneak to get to the camp too.

Is it from the author's understanding of 4e, 'cause that seriously killed my interest in this manga. Brainwashing is always just a lame cop out...

 

[browniesan]

Sorry for asking spoilers but how did it end up?

Ooh, this series is back! Thanks for the translation.

I remember being pissed off at the Atou brainwashing until someone told me how the situation ends up.

 

[browniesan]

I've said it before, but as a novel reader I'm so hyped for this arc!!!

might I ask where did you read it and what volume/chapter?

 

[absoluteAquarian]

Sorry for asking spoilers but how did it end up?

Something along the lines of she was just forced to work for them due to the enemy's DnD-esque rules. She still loves her King very dearly to the point that they stopped having her do work just so that they wouldn't have to listen to her talk about him constantly.
In short, her alignment changed but nothing else.

 

[Skullkrusher]

I've not played much 4e, but can you really reroll as much as you like? That sounds so fucking lame...

Most versions of DnD have "taking 10" which means if your skill plus 10 beats the DC, no need to roll, auto-succeed. Older versions of DnD (3.5 and earlier) had "taking 20" which is just straight auto-succeed. However, that implied at least one failure because you were going "A roll of 1 gets nothing...a roll of 2 gets nothing..." etc until "A roll of 20 gets me success."

 

[greatpotatoesaregreat]

Funny enough, second post jogged my memory.

You even get hints throughout the chapter now that I reread, basically from the lore dump at the end and the discussion the saint was having, it’s just enough to piece together that Takuto has the ability to become his enemies, taking on their form and all abilities, so no he doesn’t have DIRECT combat abilities but like Atou can make use of others as well as evade the TTRPG almost omnipotent abilities by becoming other people. Basically he become John Carpenter’s “The Thing” and starts bumping characters off one by one. And that’s Not even a huge spoiler compared to the final fight.

This is correct. Not sure why everyone is parroting the other responses of

Spoiler

Takuto not dying because he is the commander of Mynoghra. That might have been more elegant in some ways but it is not what the author wrote

 

[Skullkrusher]

This is correct. Not sure why everyone is parroting the other responses

Probably because the entire setup to this point has been a battle royale of game genres (MC is a 4x RTS / online empire builder like Nationstates, the Four Demons were JRPG like Final Fantasy, succubus is an eroge, this new girl is DnD style TTRPG,). It feels like becoming other people is completely out of left field, and fits more of a horror/slasher game like Dead Space or Silent Hill than it does a 4X RTS or nation builder. The only thing that made me leery of it was because even RTS have mission objectives like "Hero X must survive" or the mission fails/resets, so there must have been something else going on.