Bouryoku Banzai

[satirn]

Wow, this is great, glad I found this one. Rikudou is a fun character.

 

[Balikatik]

I’m just going by what the manga is “trying” to convey, I don’t have any profound essay on violence. That opening sentence was simply a joke setup to dunk on how dead the manga is.

My point is if you’re gonna write a thinly veiled fanservice manga that betrays the theme not even a quarter way in…at least make it fun to read & give the characters more than the personality of a cone?

Well, I'm gonna say it from the start, I disagree with you, but not completely, though it might kinda be true for now, I think it's still too early to expect any kind of development in the characters when the manga's not even reached chapter 25 or so yet. I think it's because most manga's/manhwa's nowadays make the most of the "development" the start of the story, like in regression type stories and all, in which characters experience growth in strength but not much mentally after. I may still be wrong though, maybe the mangaka is gonna mess it all up.

 

[Balikatik]

I’m just going by what the manga is “trying” to convey, I don’t have any profound essay on violence. That opening sentence was simply a joke setup to dunk on how dead the manga is.

My point is if you’re gonna write a thinly veiled fanservice manga that betrays the theme not even a quarter way in…at least make it fun to read & give the characters more than the personality of a cone?

By the way I may have a good recommendation for you according to what you said: "Fight class 3"

It's got a LOT of development and actual life in it, lots of thematics on actual intricate philosophy. like transhumanism, Nietzsche's ubermensch with the three metamorphoses and his "eternal reccurrence"(separate from the ubermensch), Carl Jung's "Jungian shadow", Jean-Paul Sartre's "bad faith", existancialization of pain. Kierkegaard's notion of despair in "the sickness unto death"(acceptance of ones true self). Existential Nihilism, Nihilism, Scepticism. The ship of Theseus (of Plutarch, Thomas hobes), metaphysics, Quantum physics, Ontology, John Locke's "Tabula rasa" in adequation with Empiricism. Marxism, references to Korean folk culture(not to an excessive degree, it's actually quite hard to see it), direct reference to Dave Grossman's "psychology of Murder", a lot of determinism, all that topped with a LOT of sociology, Psychology, and references to religion(In general). You'll need some good reading comprehension to discern them all though. Might check out the subreddit as well to understand better if somethings look strange or sudden in the story. It's not some kind of futuristic superhuman story or anything, it's a story about a 17yo student in modern Korea, and I hope I didn't make it seem like some kind of depressing story fixated on killing or something like that, because it's not(most part).

 

[Balikatik]

I’m just going by what the manga is “trying” to convey, I don’t have any profound essay on violence. That opening sentence was simply a joke setup to dunk on how dead the manga is.

My point is if you’re gonna write a thinly veiled fanservice manga that betrays the theme not even a quarter way in…at least make it fun to read & give the characters more than the personality of a cone?

Sorry for the long ass answer btw.

 

[nickstapez]

Sorry for the long ass answer btw.

All good man. Love discussing things with ppl. Have been trying to get back into writing anyway so you helped out.

I’m quite familiar with a lot of the existential philosophies/philosophers you’re listing since I’ve written some anime related analyses using ppl like Neitzsche & Sartre as references ad-nauseam. Also own Jung’s “Man & his Symbols”. Appreciate the recommendation I’ll check it out

 

[Sigilbreaker26]

Especially in the chap where the girl was fighting the MMA guy. He was actually the more violent one [literally snapping the girl’s neck in half to make sure he didn’t lose]. & the girl somehow survived that, then won through a regular sleeping hold.

That didn't happen, it was a hallucination

 

[BearSenpai]

Fear? SHOW NO FEAR!!!!!

 

[satirn]

This is Akita's graduation, the battle with the knife. He's a real fighter now.

 

[nickstapez]

That didn't happen, it was a hallucination

You’re right. But the point of his dream was to show that he was never gonna win no matter how much damage he did to her. Meaning he was more violent, but she just has some abnormal level of durability. The logic of the story is broken either way.

And I don’t even have a problem with her winning, just the author insisting on this cringe edgelord violence theme that goes against the reason she won. Just a very cringe read

 

[Sheppard123]

You’re right. But the point of his dream was to show that he was never gonna win no matter how much damage he did to her. Meaning he was more violent, but she just has some abnormal level of durability. The logic of the story is broken either way.

And I don’t even have a problem with her winning, just the author insisting on this cringe edgelord violence theme that goes against the reason she won. Just a very cringe read

The hallucination showed that he would of won in a alternate universe where he went all out. She literally brought up the point throughout the fight that he was basically restricted by societal rules and image while she was able to do everything in her power to knock him out.

So yes, if the MMA fighter wanted to kill her he could easily do it, but why would he when it risks his chances at his dreams, going to prison, and being seen as a scumbag who slimes out women in a spar