Chiyu Mahou no Machigatta Tsukaikata: Senjou wo Kakeru Kaifuku Youin - Vol. 12 Ch. 59

[GridLite]

ah yes. the "i'll explain my evil plan to you plebs because i think i won already since you're cornered" exposition trope. or probably, that shithead skeleton is lonely so he blabbers too much lmao

also i bet we'll get some shitty ass drama about mc's experience.

i guess they hyped up his mentality previously, like, oh only the mc could handle rose's training regime, so he's as crazy as rose blah blah only for this. anyways, regardless whether he has the resilient mentality because of his training(borderline torture) stress will take toll even for the greatest soldier/spy/special force/assassin whatsoever.

 

[GridLite]

Thank God I wasn't the only one who thought this. I could have sworn I read the same page like 3 times. Chapter basically went: ton of word vomit by the characters, villain literally says "whatever, imma break his mind and imma kill you now." This was an entire chapter repeating this same thing ad-nauseum. Holy hell the writing quality has dropped. Thank you scanlators but having the pure gumption to stick this arc through... you're the true heroes here.

it's the side effect of long running series. i even dropped shield hero because they were talking about "oh that's you belief and this is my belief" and all the "forcing of your idea to other people" cringe ahh bs. i was glad that mc at the very least don't do that but when they got to the other world arc, he became cringe

 

[AnotherDuck]

I agree with this chapter being redundant. Just pointless escalation that doesn't mean anything because it's all invented on the spot, on both sides, and it's filled up with such a superfluous amount of words to fill, well, a chapter, but with the informational content of almost a half a page.

 

[Brewplanet]

HAHAHA

 

[Grikath]

HE SNAPPED!!! O_O

Of course he did.... Heroic Plot Stuff aside, anyone would snap after having to endure that Monologueing and Expositioning by what is essentially a deranged otaku lich.

Forget lofty goals and chivalry. You go Above and Beyond simply to finally shut the fucker up.

 

[WillTell]

oh he so madge, real madge!

 

[Dwarfy2k]

it's the side effect of long running series. i even dropped shield hero because they were talking about "oh that's you belief and this is my belief" and all the "forcing of your idea to other people" cringe ahh bs. i was glad that mc at the very least don't do that but when they got to the other world arc, he became cringe

I dropped shield hero cause it kept resetting all the character developments for the upteenth time. I got super sick of reading the other "heros" still not learning the lesson of they need to work together for like the 99th time.

 

[crackkid]

Uhh... How can the bones sweat?

Sorry, that was a strange question to ask in a fantasy manga.

 

[crackkid]

It's sad how badly the concept of "hero" has been twisted over the past half-century or so by some... Yes, that is what a hero is! Someone with the power to change fate, that is what a hero is; not some paladinic personage who sacrifices themselves for the "greater good", which usually is just benefiting a single faction, too.

I don't think there's a single absolute definition of a hero. The word "hero" can have many different meanings because everyone has their own hero. The only wrong one here is the bone guy's, because yeah, possessing raw strength alone doesn't necessarily make one a hero.
But I pretty much agree with you. Even people who killed countless others or committed countless crimes are heroes to a lot of people.
I personally have two definitions, a person who saves others (the typical), and a person who had achieved great things.

 

[Amariithynar]

I don't think there's a single absolute definition of a hero. The word "hero" can have many different meanings because everyone has their own hero. The only wrong one here is the bone guy's, because yeah, possessing raw strength alone doesn't necessarily make one a hero.
But I pretty much agree with you. Even people who killed countless others or committed countless crimes are heroes to a lot of people.
I personally have two definitions, a person who saves others (the typical), and a person who had achieved great things.

And once again, here's someone twisting what "hero" means. "Hero" doesn't mean "someone who saves others". it literally is just "someone with the power to change fate", that's it. Look at Odysseus, Ajax, Hector, Achilles, Diomedes, Aeneas, Agamemnon, and many more; they are not good people doing good deeds out of the goodness of their heart, though often they did do good deeds for others for their own benefit.

What you are referring to here is what is accurately called a superhero, since it was the comic book superheroes that really popularized this twisted concept over the past several decades, due to becoming "kid-friendly" (a more accurate term is probably "Christianized", much the same as Old Man Winter was into Saint Nicholas, who was then corporatized into Santa Claus) rather than the original stories and characterizations that they had that did more align with the concept of "hero".

The use of the dichotomy of "hero vs. villain" depicting it as good vs. evil and selfless vs. selfish even went so far as to influence other pop culture, as with D&D's original alignments (note: I'm not shitting on alignments, here, either, only referencing how they were influenced) and quite a bit of 70's and 80's media, as well.

 

[N2O]

Words words words

Mm I love me some words

 

[Astra_Starwalker]

You know it's bad when the skeletons are sweating

 

[crackkid]

And once again, here's someone twisting what "hero" means. "Hero" doesn't mean "someone who saves others". it literally is just "someone with the power to change fate", that's it. Look at Odysseus, Ajax, Hector, Achilles, Diomedes, Aeneas, Agamemnon, and many more; they are not good people doing good deeds out of the goodness of their heart, though often they did do good deeds for others for their own benefit.

What you are referring to here is what is accurately called a superhero, since it was the comic book superheroes that really popularized this twisted concept over the past several decades, due to becoming "kid-friendly" (a more accurate term is probably "Christianized", much the same as Old Man Winter was into Saint Nicholas, who was then corporatized into Santa Claus) rather than the original stories and characterizations that they had that did more align with the concept of "hero".

The use of the dichotomy of "hero vs. villain" depicting it as good vs. evil and selfless vs. selfish even went so far as to influence other pop culture, as with D&D's original alignments (note: I'm not shitting on alignments, here, either, only referencing how they were influenced) and quite a bit of 70's and 80's media, as well.

Yeah, no. "someone with the power to change fate" is obviously an exaggeration. Never seen that definition anywhere. "Hero" is literally defined as someone known for their great achievements and noble qualities. Kindness is a noble quality, and having saved lives is in no way not a great achievement. So while a savior isn't the only kind of hero, it sure more than qualifies for it.
And if you're talking greek myth, I don't know how you missed the origin of the word itself. Which has the meaning of what you call "twisted".

 

[Diabolist]

Feels like this chapter would be 5 episodes of them saying his mind will break soon.

 

[demonslender]

stupid skelly boy made one fatal flaw, and that's that modern day humans are desensitized to the suffering of others. with the advent of television and the internet we've been forced to see the suffering of others through annoying commercials pleading us to donate money or have decided to willingly watch others suffer through videos for entertainment. at least i believe real modern day humans wouldn't care much about being forced to see those memories of suffering since it would just be like a movie to us.

 

[Axccel]

A hero is someone who steps up when everyone else backs down.

 

[TUN27]

Damn the dragging. Yeah we get the point already no need to keep repeating the same words over and over again. It reduce the impact of the dialogue itself. Bad guys are bad guys, good guys are good guys, hero is a hero because he is a hero and the fucking skeleton can never be a hero. Thats it. That is what the whole chapter was.

 

[Valle_reading_manga]

Oh yeah, what a shortcut. Chaining yourself to a curse for centuries to attain the level of a being like Usato who got there in less than a year of training

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Anyway, what's with those fancy villains vs good guys exchanging their convictions when all that comes from it is "shut up and take this"

 

[CT-9904]

Minecraft skeleton death sounds

 

[Wattana]

He'll probably get to experience a lifetime of sadism