Cocoon - Ch. 12 - Scattering Camellia

[MangaDex]

 

[Oeconomist]

Not only did Allied soldiers rape many Okinawan women; they also raped Korean women on Okinawa who had been forcibly brought there as “comfort women” by the Japanese military.

Of course, both Roosevelt and Hirohito escaped justice.

 

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Sheeeit, I hope they died quick.

 

[Hounder]

@Oeconomist Sadly, acts of rape (as well as other atrocities) are all too common in war, and is committed by individuals on both sides of the fight. Simply blaming and charging the leaders at the time doesn't necessarily help anything there, regardless of the intentions.

 

[Oeconomist]

@Hounder—

Commanders are responsible for taking effective action to prevent war crimes. Roosevelt and Hirohito not only failed to take appropriate action, but chose policies that deliberately engaged in some war crimes and thereby created a context fostering still others.

 

[Hounder]

@Oeconomist Doesn't change what I said from being true. And that is still only a partial solution. The real solution is to end the reasons for that to occur in the first place, which is to have a world without wars. But, unfortuneately, it is easy for any fool to see that humans are just too stupid for that to occur anytime too soon. Wouldn't be surprised if we wipe ourselves out as a result of our stupidity.

 

[Oeconomist]

@Hounder—

Doesn't change what I said from being true.

The issue wasn't whether it were true, but whether it were exculpatroy. The commanders at the higher levels and a great many at the lower levels were war criminals. No one proposed simply to blame the leaders, but a failure to recognize the leaders as war criminals creates a context in which future such leaders also expect to get away with war crimes.

And that is still only a partial solution. The real solution is to end the reasons for that to occur in the first place, which is to have a world without wars.

While a world without wars might be a fine thing (depending upon how it were achieved), there is still a right and wrong to how one responds when another party launches a war. Regardless of where one locates responsibility for the beginning of that war, the behavior of the commanders on all sides was grossly immoral. And such things shouldn't be tolerated in a world in which there are still wars.

 

[Hounder]

@Oeconomist Sadly, while it would be nice to expect that, you also have that little thing about reality. In other words, reality is a bitch, and as much as you want those values you are using to stick, it won't happen til humans grow up.

 

[Oeconomist]

@Hounder—

It is unrealistic to expect mankind to grow beyond war before they grow beyond war crimes. It is as if one claimed that we should be resigned to police brutality until there were an end to crime.

 

[beeqwop]

Humanity growing up begins with each of us. We won’t always be able to avoid conflict, even when all sides believe they’re doing the right thing for everyone, but a commitment to helping each other and following through on that commitment is meaningful.