Dachi no Imouto - Vol. 4 Ch. 21 - Chapter 21

[Justus44]

Excuse my killjoy self, but I'd like to correct: it was Kaguya-sama who confessed. And main series point was that she wants to be confessed to, it was even used as a title

Spoiler

And actually she got her confession before the very end, at that helicopter scene. Talk about well thought-out plot.

yeah, it was the premise, and SHE LOST, and started going out, and had sex, and whatever Shirogane did after, she STILL LOST

 

[Justus44]

If any of you are offended by my comments, good.

Offended? Surely you meant "baffled".
Why do you even assume that commenting "axed" is meant to be funny, is a mystery. As you mentioned yourself, people chose to read this. And if they care enough to read, and even more, comment, "axed" is obv way to convey the shock of seeing your chosen form of entertaiment end so SUDDENLY. People who read shit are SAD when they cannot read it anymore.
Your (in no way little) tantrum is misplaced.

 

[Dogwelder]

If any of you are offended by my comments, good. That means I don't want you here, please leave and don't read anything I work on ever again.

I don't want to make this about me which is why I've never done any credit pages or commentary in the actual pages, but to leave the comment section a cesspool where apparently more than 50% of "readers" don't even like the series and think they can further their internet comedy career with their 4 upvotes on the millionth occurrence of a one word "joke" shitting on the material that they chose to read, that they've done no work to receive for free, is unacceptable to me personally.

Yes, I am personally offended, because imagine if the actual creators of any of this read the comments. The cesspool of unfunny and mean spirited to further some personal ego comments only exist here because I translated this. I am personally responsible for this insanely toxic feedback, even if the creators never read or understand it.

That anyone on a piracy website feels entitled to laugh at, demean, and shit on authors when they are not just consumers, but thieves benefiting off of the hard work of other thieves (and then think they're in the right and I'm the crazy one) is frankly, a practice that destroys what little faith in humanity I had left.

Thats one high horse damn

I hope whatever is going on in your life is resolved and you find happiness.

 

[Darkshade13]

If any of you are offended by my comments, good. That means I don't want you here, please leave and don't read anything I work on ever again.

I don't want to make this about me which is why I've never done any credit pages or commentary in the actual pages, but to leave the comment section a cesspool where apparently more than 50% of "readers" don't even like the series and think they can further their internet comedy career with their 4 upvotes on the millionth occurrence of a one word "joke" shitting on the material that they chose to read, that they've done no work to receive for free, is unacceptable to me personally.

Yes, I am personally offended, because imagine if the actual creators of any of this read the comments. The cesspool of unfunny and mean spirited to further some personal ego comments only exist here because I translated this. I am personally responsible for this insanely toxic feedback, even if the creators never read or understand it.

That anyone on a piracy website feels entitled to laugh at, demean, and shit on authors when they are not just consumers, but thieves benefiting off of the hard work of other thieves (and then think they're in the right and I'm the crazy one) is frankly, a practice that destroys what little faith in humanity I had left.

You probably didn't offend anyone with your comments. Chances are most people just feel sorry for you given how bitter and detached-from-reality you appear to be. Because assuming even half of what you're projecting onto the audience just because they used the word "axed" or suggested the series didn't have a satisfying ending is, quite honestly, insane.

So with what little respect can and should be conveyed given the asinine way you're addressing what is indirectly your audience here: Get help. This isn't healthy and it's not anyone else's fault.

 

[verus]

Weird ending. The conflict is resolved, but the underlying causes remain.

The little sister remains immature and irresponsible. Her behavior is rewarded, so why would she change?

The male lead continues being dragged along. He never stands up for himself, letting others convince him into doing things he's not super comfortable doing.

The older brother decided to "trust" his friend and sister, not due to growing as a person but due to having no other option.

The other characters I don't have major complaints about, but the main three don't really show character development outside of a surface level.

 

[FantasyMaster]

I just wanted to read the comments to see other people views on the story. I probably shouldn't comment because, even if I don't want to be part of it and/or add fuel to the fire, the moment I'll press "post reply" I'll be part of it.

I just wanted to comment about what a nice small read this was, having binged it when I saw the "complete" status after years of having it in my "plan to read" list. And I want this to be the main focus of my comment. It was a very nice read.

But sadly, I also would like to share my 2 cents on this whole comment drama.
Everyone has their opinion. Even if the author plan was "Imma write a story about a guy dating his friend's sister in secret and end it when it becomes official", it's perfectly fine, for a reader, to accept it and be content or feel like everything could have gone longer (either a slower pace or a continuation after the "end").
Considering how you, @Clarinet , are a real fan of this author (looking at how many of her works you worked on), I do kinda understand that you want her works to receive only nice comments. But, again, people have their own opinion and not always they'll be what you want.
I never saw the word "axed" being used as a joke. I always saw it when people were actually sad/pissed that a good story that they liked ended abruptly or not the way they wanted. And, tbf, it's perfectly fine.
You lashing out on these people, calling them illiterate or any other thing you said, feeling bad about having worked on this, feeling responsible that people are saying they're not happy with the ending......you're doing more bad than good. You're not offending them or scaring them away, you're just making them pity you and laugh at you, because they probably felt you just put the big red nose by lashing out. And I'll stop here, because I'm also being part of the problem with this comment.

Again, this manga was a good read, I found an interesting author and I'll definitively read her other works.
I really hope that, when I'll join the next comment section of one of her works (most likely Oshibana! when it'll end), I'll find a calmer you.

 

[feha]

I'm going to personally hunt down the next brainless idiot who says this stupid buzzword. Same with "progress".

spoiler: following paragraph is a joke:

axed. The moment there was any progress~
At least this one did not use the axe the moment they got their first kiss. Just the moment they had their first time instead~


Jokes aside (I had to, sorry, that comment was literally baiting me to ), sometimes I feel like jp mangakas believe that stories end once a couple has overcome all the hassles and hurdles and started going out and consummate without any antagonists (tangible or no; Despite how that is actually when initial hurdle has been overcome and a story/relationship can properly start). Because they always do end it if it reaches those moments.

I can't believe I have to even clarify this but no this was not cancelled. You media literacy challenged gooners couldn't identify a natural narrative ending if you broke your nose walking straight into one.

What story is there left to tell? The central conflict is resolved. The entire premise. You even get a (pre) sex scene.

Dachi no Imouto was carrying Rakuen Le Paradis, the magazine it's serialized in so hard that the latest issue is getting review bombed on retailer websites by people saying all the good series (specifically mentioning Dachi no Imouto) are ending and they have no reason to buy anymore. So shut the fuck up about shit you have no clue about that can easily be fact checked, holy shit you people are annoying.

I regret scanlating this series in particular because it got popular (and horny) enough to attract this crowd of readers. I will stick to niche series that will filter out undesirables and offend most people who read it from now on.

I think ppl are referring to how the end was rather rushed-feeling. At least compared to how much it dragged out a lot of other earlier plot-points.
As such change in pacing is often a sign of being axed, I have noticed people have also taken to call things "axed" to signify that it had such an ending - even when it was not [axed] (though maybe it is more correct to say it was not axed by the publisher. It can still be argued to have been by the author).
And some just call any ending of a story they liked as "axed", to show how they would have loved to get to read more.

ps: but to answer your question, there is a lot left to tell.
Like what happens after this point. As for the central conflict, it was resolved several chapters ago when they told the brother, after that we had the "make brother accept it" arc, which I remember foggily (in part because the pacing broke so I started caring less and have been skimming). But iirc he still had his qualms, and its sub-sub-plot about brothers relationship with a manager was never resolved was it?
For the side-quests (subplots only tangentially - if at all - related to mcs), there was also the whole "incest" thread going on, which was far from done. Closest it has gotten is that the sub-sub-plot of them having had a fight ended as they made up (happened during last 2 chapters), but they are still keeping it a secret from friends etc.
Also the yuri couple, which is still hiding it. A lot could still be explored there - even if they end up graduating and leaving the plot (loses contact with mcs) before they tell their friends.

But personally I am satisfied enough with the ending. Because that's more than I expected to get from this story honestly, was expecting it to just eventually peter out like oh so many other mangas. Though I would be less satisfied if I had been more invested, so arguably people being dissatisfied is a good thing as it shows they actually liked it.

tl;dr: I think ppl refer to the pacing and not actually to whether publisher axed it; There was more to explore; But I am personally satisfied.

There's an epilogue chapter and whatever other extras we get from the volume release (January).

Oh? It hasn't actually ended yet? That would explain why MAL did not have me mark my progress as completed and set a score (odd that md had tagged it as such though).

 

[zerio]

I was really surprised when they did it in the club room. But if this is the last chapter, then it was nice. I wish there are more, but all stories will end.

@Clarinet thanks so much for the translation!

 

[shyevsa]

That was fun.
As someone that pretty much always stop reading story at this point of closure, am grateful to able to add this one on my finished list instead of dropped or paused list.
The one with the celeb sister are kind of wish to get more tho.

 

[shyevsa]

Jokes aside (I had to, sorry, that comment was literally baiting me to ), sometimes I feel like jp mangakas believe that stories end once a couple has overcome all the hassles and hurdles and started going out and consummate without any antagonists (tangible or no; Despite how that is actually when initial hurdle has been overcome and a story/relationship can properly start). Because they always do end it if it reaches those moments.

While there is probably some great title out there that can continue after that point, some just become pointless with forced drama, unwanted rival, pure sugar, or worse something full of filler.

Either way if the author cannot do better, or it was light hearted slice of life since the beginning, it's just lost lost situation.

Imo epilog, short story or spinoff or title change are better in most case.

 

[feha]

While there is probably some great title out there that can continue after that point, some just become pointless with forced drama, unwanted rival, pure sugar, or worse something full of filler.

Either way if the author cannot do better, or it was light hearted slice of life since the beginning, it's just lost lost situation.

Imo epilog, short story or spinoff or title change are better in most case.

You are right that many authors flounder the moment there is no clear antagonist to overcome or climax to build to (which is why as you mention some authors resort to forcing in one, be that a love rival or in the form of a stupid misunderstanding-plot).
But I disagree that it is inherent to the nature [of romance-genre] itself. It's merely a sign of bad writing - or at least that they absolutely didn't plan beyond that point beforehand and had a deadline to meet.

It is never filler though, because filler is per definition original storylines put between the adapted ones because source-material is too slow. It might be slice of life, but there are tons of good slice of life works so calling that filler is unjust (but yes, a genre-shift to uneventful slice of life is pretty much never a good thing either). Unless you mean obligatory epilogue chapters showing a beach episode or an onsen episode. Because yeah, even if it is source-material, I consider such chapters filler. Hell, even if it is not epilogues. Luckily they are often short, max 2 chapters long.

Good romance stories however has some story(ies)/plotline(s)/arc(s) beyond just "will they confess/kiss?", and even once they are happily paired up they are still a great medium to tell those stories (like how this one still had stories to tell). Or they began as slice-of-life/romcom works to begin with (but wit ha strong romance subplot), and there is no harm in continuing being SoL (just off the top of my head, there is that debt-boy manga. Though it is not the best example as author really feels the need to force it down our throats that the main couple is diabetes-sweet by having other characters mention it like 3 times each chapter. There is also kaguya, but I am unsure if it should be considered SoL/romcom, or the prior category because of bitewise fantastical stories told through the main cast. Because iirc it constantly switches between 4koma comedy and that).

 

[Itu]

I wanted to see more of the lesbian couple and that incest-not-incest one...oh well
It was a nice series!
Thanks for translating!

 

[Angry_Aguri]

weird ending. I can see why people think it was axed.

 

[ngkn92]

I always thought Kaguya ending was kinda bad, so it surprised me to see people want more of that.

 

[IncH]

 

[Septazia]

I can't believe I have to even clarify this but no this was not cancelled. You media literacy challenged gooners couldn't identify a natural narrative ending if you broke your nose walking straight into one.

What story is there left to tell? The central conflict is resolved. The entire premise. You even get a (pre) sex scene.

Dachi no Imouto was carrying Rakuen Le Paradis, the magazine it's serialized in so hard that the latest issue is getting review bombed on retailer websites by people saying all the good series (specifically mentioning Dachi no Imouto) are ending and they have no reason to buy anymore. So shut the fuck up about shit you have no clue about that can easily be fact checked, holy shit you people are annoying.

I regret scanlating this series in particular because it got popular (and horny) enough to attract this crowd of readers. I will stick to niche series that will filter out undesirables and offend most people who read it from now on.

Thanks for the translation, sorry for the sour mood you find yourself in, hope it has passed by now.