Daredemo Dakeru Kimi ga Suki - Ch. 98 - Are You Giving Up?

[CiC700]

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Spoiler: Response

After thinking about it, I do agree that I was making out Shigechi to be more apathetic towards Gotou than she really is, my main issue lies with trying to frame her feelings as love or affection for him though. While this story isn't a masterpiece in terms of character writing, I think that the characters have some nuance to their feelings and desires that go beyond what is typical for romcom characters. If it were not for the way that Agawa, Shiina, Akito and even Gotou were written into the story - I would agree that Shigechi is just a well written tsundere however if we look at how the other characters are written, I feel that they don't neatly fit into the typical romcom tropes. It's harder to explain without using the previous girls as they have been around for longer and so have had more time to demonstrate what I'm saying above.

Her reasons for liking Gotou when you think about it are pretty slim, your main one about respecting boundaries isn't really emphasised in the story as far as I can remember (if I forgot though then please correct me), him not fucking her while knowing she isn't really comfortable with doing the sm stuff does show that Gotou isn't some super horny guy however it is also backed by Gotou saying he isn't into that stuff and Shigechi being readily open to fuck Gotou while degrading him later on. Her behaviour comes across more as intrigue with some hormonal desire mixed in as he did satisfy her sexually but his general behaviour either confuses or grosses her out, not enough to make her disinterested but there is not really any showings of her liking or being interested in any particular attribute of Gotou unlike the other girls.

To give you my stance without including other characters to flesh it out: I feel that while Shigechi does put up a tough exterior but is softer on the inside, it is moreso that she is like an actual teenage girl who larps as a popular mean girl seeing as she likes to hang around popular groups and only hook up with a certain caliber of guy yet ended up being nervous about Gotou touching her despite initiating the SM stuff despite being a supposed slut like Agawa and Shiina. Her behaviour towards him seems more like her trying to act analytical or understand why a supposed loser is in the situation she is, outside of Gotou she even tries to go around asking Agawa questions about her love life and if she is really happy with the way things are in a direct manner yet at the same time goes on to try and get with Gotou anyways despite suspecting he could be her friends crush which just comes across as childish which fits as she is still a kid even if she tries to act more mature than she really is.

 

[loliconvict]

its about to end isnt it

 

[Naian]

"all I want is something serious but the girls are just playing around!!"
Here and the rest, IMO Gotou is just basically projecting.
""but I will not let logic control my life!!""
Here is the only moment he's genuine. Akito is serious about her feelings and though she didn't impose on him to be a normal couple, she's still here trying to be with him. If anything Gotou just took advantage of her feelings to have sex. At story progress, Gotou is getting closer to being an Agawa, someone who can just have sex with anyone, since Gotou immediately have sex with Kiyo, and here despite wanting something "serious", he'll throw Kiyo away to have sex with Shige. Though unlike Agawa who is upfront about having sex, Gotou tends to pity bait to get sex and it works somewhat because it's known he has stamina and big dick, both which the promiscuous girls around him like (Shige, Agawa, Pres).

 

[SimonRoseberg49]

Spoiler: Response

After thinking about it, I do agree that I was making out Shigechi to be more apathetic towards Gotou than she really is, my main issue lies with trying to frame her feelings as love or affection for him though. While this story isn't a masterpiece in terms of character writing, I think that the characters have some nuance to their feelings and desires that go beyond what is typical for romcom characters. If it were not for the way that Agawa, Shiina, Akito and even Gotou were written into the story - I would agree that Shigechi is just a well written tsundere however if we look at how the other characters are written, I feel that they don't neatly fit into the typical romcom tropes. It's harder to explain without using the previous girls as they have been around for longer and so have had more time to demonstrate what I'm saying above.

Her reasons for liking Gotou when you think about it are pretty slim, your main one about respecting boundaries isn't really emphasised in the story as far as I can remember (if I forgot though then please correct me), him not fucking her while knowing she isn't really comfortable with doing the sm stuff does show that Gotou isn't some super horny guy however it is also backed by Gotou saying he isn't into that stuff and Shigechi being readily open to fuck Gotou while degrading him later on. Her behaviour comes across more as intrigue with some hormonal desire mixed in as he did satisfy her sexually but his general behaviour either confuses or grosses her out, not enough to make her disinterested but there is not really any showings of her liking or being interested in any particular attribute of Gotou unlike the other girls.

To give you my stance without including other characters to flesh it out: I feel that while Shigechi does put up a tough exterior but is softer on the inside, it is moreso that she is like an actual teenage girl who larps as a popular mean girl seeing as she likes to hang around popular groups and only hook up with a certain caliber of guy yet ended up being nervous about Gotou touching her despite initiating the SM stuff despite being a supposed slut like Agawa and Shiina. Her behaviour towards him seems more like her trying to act analytical or understand why a supposed loser is in the situation she is, outside of Gotou she even tries to go around asking Agawa questions about her love life and if she is really happy with the way things are in a direct manner yet at the same time goes on to try and get with Gotou anyways despite suspecting he could be her friends crush which just comes across as childish which fits as she is still a kid even if she tries to act more mature than she really is.

Well those are some fair points, but I think something that provides a lot of important context for what Shigemi thinks of Gotou is how she acted when Inukai is concerned during the early part of her story arc.

Spoiler: Shigemi around Inukai

Before she clearly liked Inukai considering she started sweating bullets when she thought Akito was getting with him, and was dejected when she realizes he’s only really after Shiina, but also didn’t like the fact that he basically gave no shits about her or her personal space. That stands in sharp contrast to Gotou who while obsessed with a girl of his own, doesn’t try to force himself upon other girls to cope with his unfulfilled oneitis.

 

[CiC700]

Before she clearly liked Inukai considering she started sweating bullets when she thought Akito was getting with him, and was dejected when she realizes he’s only really after Shiina, but also didn’t like the fact that he basically gave no shits about her or her personal space. That stands in sharp contrast to Gotou who while obsessed with a girl of his own, doesn’t try to force himself upon other girls to cope with his unfulfilled oneitis.

That is true and is perhaps the reason she is drawn to interacting with Gotou, however we don't know if she doesn't like Inukai anymore tbh. Since we know Shigechi likes to hang around popular people, it makes sense that she would like Inukai however, similar to Inukai who seeked out other girls because he couldn't get Shiina - Shigechi could be trying to seek out or claim Gotou because he is easier to do so unlike Inukai. While Gotou is the MC which may make him more inclined towards getting favourable treatment, his relationship with Akito would be an example of something kind of similar where Akito still likes Gotou despite his glaring issues however due to Gotou's behaviour she has been hanging around him less and spending time with her friends more instead despite wanting more from Gotou. This could mirror Shigechi and Inukai's relationship as Shigechi may want more from him but is going to Gotou instead because Inukai isn't reciprocating (and she has more self-respect than Akito so she won't get into a one-sided relationship).

Gotou, Agawa, Akito, Inukai (and his simps) are all people who are still have feelings for someone who is pretty trash so it wouldn't be out of the ordinary for Shigechi to be the same.

 

[Ren4president]

Bro should not get married, he folded in less than one chapter. I love milfs, but if he is just going to break her heart, then he should not get married.

Nah at this point he’ll literally just take the first girl that’ll take him seriously and to me it showed how serious he was about whatever girl he was with in the way he had sex this. He get so into it that it seem like he genuinely wanna make love and make the girls take his soul while he take there’s

 

[SimonRoseberg49]

Doesn’t look like there’s a chapter this weekend.

 

[MrPP118]

its about to end isnt it

Is it? Until Agawa and Gotou have a proper conversation, this shit ain't anywhere close to ending, Gotou will keep sleeping around, Agawa will keep scissoring, if we suddenly get a speedrun of a scandal like Gotou's relationship with the teacher getting exposed to the whole school, Gotou getting expelled and Agawa confessing properly then yea, it's ending but until then author can just milk this for as long as possible provided no axe happens.

 

[XNFEdayo]

Yup Shige deserves the 1st place trophy in the Gotou bowl plus his mom gave the silent approval. Gotou excels when he's thinking with his dick & wears his heart on his sleeve. He may be horny but he knows he's not ready to be a father (God I can only imagine how his children will react when they learn how he acted in high school). Thanks for the translations.

You forget that he busted inside Agawa and take pride in the fact that he's the only one of all her sexfriends who did so he continued to do to it?

 

[Hauberk1800]

Her smiling face was pretty cute.

it was terrifying

 

[MrPP118]

@Moneymike1995 I see you

 

[Absent666]

Agawa will keep scissoring,

She'll probably send an indirect to Gotou by going back to fuck studs and chads, very probably gonna start riding Yuuki's cock and realize he can rival Gotou's stamina.

tl;dr she'll provoke Gotou into go and confront/fuck her by triggering his seethe.

 

[MrPP118]

She'll probably send an indirect to Gotou by going back to fuck studs and chads, very probably gonna start riding Yuuki's cock and realize he can rival Gotou's stamina.

tl;dr she'll provoke Gotou into go and confront/fuck her by triggering his seethe.

Which one was Yuuki again? The guy who kept trying to go out with Agawa?

 

[Absent666]

Which one was Yuuki again? The guy who kept trying to go out with Agawa?

Agawa's CF. Baseball chad.

The one who was unsuccessfully trying to date Agawa was Inukai

 

[box2024]

Well now I'm wondering if we will get a new chapter this week.

 

[CiC700]

Well now I'm wondering if we will get a new chapter this week.

Im pretty sure golden week lasts until 5th of May so no new chapter this week. The plus side of this is that the first Shigechi sex chapters were drawn quite well with 2 week breaks in between so there is a good chance the upcoming sex scene should be pretty good.

 

[Roadwarior2]

Yeah I’m pretty sure we’re shit out of luck for this week as well, but maybe our boy deserves the rest since he’s been going all out this year.

 

[Roadwarior2]

Which one was Yuuki again? The guy who kept trying to go out with Agawa?

Agawa's CF. Baseball chad.

The one who was unsuccessfully trying to date Agawa was Inukai

He’s also Agawa’s abusive boyfriend in the epilogue of the original H-manga that beat cop Gotou protects her from.

 

[koifall]

Well those are some fair points, but I think something that provides a lot of important context for what Shigemi thinks of Gotou is how she acted when Inukai is concerned during the early part of her story arc.

Spoiler: Shigemi around Inukai

Before she clearly liked Inukai considering she started sweating bullets when she thought Akito was getting with him, and was dejected when she realizes he’s only really after Shiina, but also didn’t like the fact that he basically gave no shits about her or her personal space. That stands in sharp contrast to Gotou who while obsessed with a girl of his own, doesn’t try to force himself upon other girls to cope with his unfulfilled oneitis.

Shigemi liking Inukai wasn't something I considered, but these scenes from Ch.s 78-79 definitely could be read that way: that Shigemi is a person who is/was interested in Inukai but would rather keep her distance with Inukai than settle for the role of just another sex friend of his. Thanks for pointing this out. (Edit: Though after rereading the chapters, I personally don't think Shigemi has any romantic feelings for Inukai.)

That being said, I'm still not convinced Shigemi likes Gotou romantically. Her current visit to Gotou's house can be read as her feeling bad about Gotou's current situation, as she was the one who helped Gotou realize his desire for both sex and love is stronger than his desire for sex alone. However, that realization has caused him to (incorrectly) conclude that no one genuinely likes him romantically, so he picked the easy way out by "commiting" to Kiyomi.

I'd be disappointed if Takeda Super decides that Shigemi has now fallen in love with Gotou (cuz he has a good dick), because she clearly sees and respects Gotou's love for Agawa, even if Gotou himself has become dismissive of it. She has consistently asked Gotou about his love for Agawa (Ch.s 82-83, and this current chapter), and Gotou acknowledges that he still likes her this chapter (though he quickly skips over this fact after admitting it, as a way of coping with his situation).

I'm not saying Gotou and Shigemi won't hook up or become a couple later on, but I think that Shigemi might aim for this relationship as a temporary way to help Gotou break out of his false "romantic" commitment to Kiyomi. I think Shigemi is extremely commited to the ideal of true love, so it's unlikely that she likes Gotou romantically while knowing he (like Inukai) likes someone else.

Also, it's a gag, but I think Shigemi really did forget Gotou's name when she confronted Agawa in Ch.94 lol. Just because Shigemi sympathizes with Gotou's situation doesn't mean she saw him as someone important enough to her to remember his name. I think Gotou became important to Shigemi when she realized Agawa probably likes Gotou, which is why she's actively getting involved with Gotou only after she confronted Agawa (and saw that Agawa's too passive and won't be true to her own feelings).

Shigemi is a softie, and Gotou isn't wrong for calling her an "angel" this chapter. She is currently trying to help Gotou be the best version of himself, the romantic guy who was determined to talk to Agawa about his feelings for her (Ch.83). Shigemi is a sweetheart who most clearly sees Gotou for everything that he is (the good, the bad, and the contradictions), and I believe it's mainly out of kindness, rather than romantic affection, that she wants the best for him (and Agawa too), even if Gotou hasn't done anything to deserve such kindness from her.

 

[box2024]

There is always a drought when things start to get good the story is finally going somewhere!!!!!!!