Daredemo Dakeru Kimi ga Suki - Vol. 1 Ch. 4 - Don´t Get More

[conquestking]

Yup, it is like this. Even if you get a GF she will cheat on you eventually. Just give up and face reality, DO AS THOU WILT. There's no place in this world for morality. Do yourself a favor and start enjoying your only life. Once you're dead it's fucking over.

Hedonism huh? I'm not sure in ready to just toss away my morals but I sincerely thank you for another perspective to consider.

 

[blahblahbleh]

my bros face is just always :O

 

[xyzzy]

I don't think it's entirely the manga - it's just that the manga contrasts my normal romcom magna reading and it made me reflect on some of the things I hear, see, and know about irl. It also made me think... what is this is really how people normally act and I've just been out of the loop? I don't think people are normally this open.... but like the MC maybe I've just been living in a different world.

Both this and normal romcom manga are fictional

 

[conquestking]

Both this and normal romcom manga are fictional

Are they completely though? Sure, they are both very fluffed up in their own ways, but don't they still somewhat mirror reality? This comic is probably closer to reality than a romcom.

 

[yetanothergeek]

Thanks for the upload.

 

[xyzzy]

Are they completely though? Sure, they are both very fluffed up in their own ways, but don't they still somewhat mirror reality? This comic is probably closer to reality than a romcom.

probably

Again, that’s the rub. You’re still working under the assumption that real life isn’t all fluffy romcoms, clearly it’s closer to this. Which is like saying that since The Hobbit clearly doesn’t happen in reality, real life must be closer to Star Wars instead. It’s not one or the other, and real life - like all things - is a mixture of all types.

More importantly, I want to steer you away from a dark path. Assuming that every woman out there is secretly a turboslut is step numero uno to becoming an incel. And you deserve better than that.

 

[conquestking]

Again, that’s the rub. You’re still working under the assumption that real life isn’t all fluffy romcoms, clearly it’s closer to this. Which is like saying that since The Hobbit clearly doesn’t happen in reality, real life must be closer to Star Wars instead. It’s not one or the other, and real life - like all things - is a mixture of all types.

More importantly, I want to steer you away from a dark path. Assuming that every woman out there is secretly a turboslut is step numero uno to becoming an incel. And you deserve better than that.

Hey thanks, I really do appreciate that. I do tend to be a pessimist but differing perspectives are important to view a subject from a wider angle. I don't think I'm mad at women, but you are right that it is important to check oneself and not go down that path. I still have some thinking to do, but I think what you said is valuable.

 

[beep_repair]

I'm not going to lie - I was raised with a certain set of morals and I'm sure they are a bit old fashioned for my generation. Even today, the idea of sleeping around (sex friends / casual flings included) just fills me with all sorts of negative emotions - it's something I really detest the thought of. I'm not going to force my ways or preach that to others, but I feel like Lonesome George in a way. Perhaps I also feel what the MC may be feeling in this chapter - there is this whole world he didn't know about and a lot of people that you would think are proper (student council member - and even the other lady in the chapter, though of course appearances aren't everything but she looks more proper than gal) are just casually... sleeping with each other like it is a Sunday stroll. They are normal and I'm the odd one. I still feel like I'm doing the right thing - but I don't live under a rock and this manga probably makes me uncomfortable because it is shattering the romcom copium I've been breathing. Truth be told, I've been focusing on my career, trying to stay fit despite my desk job (almost have my 4 pack back) and I never really socialized a lot - it is honestly my weakest point. I didn't have time in HS / college, both working and trying to keep a decent GPA. At this point, reading what I have and seeing what I have in real life... do I even want to keep going? (Finding a partner that is - my will to live is strong and I enjoy my hobbies) I have some more thinking to do.

I'm not sure I get where you're coming from, @conquestking. I mean, I completely understand why one might choose not to pursue shallow relationships and casual sex. But to truly "detest the thought" of such things? That seems rather extreme. And while you often mention morals, you never describe the principles that might justify your prejudice.

When it comes to relationships, no one is normal, and there's no single right way way to do it. Some people hook up with random strangers, while others hold out for a lifelong commitment. Neither approach is particularly rare (you are nothing like Lonesome George), and there's lots of room in between. Wholesome fluffy romcoms are, in their way, just as realistic as the transactional carnality of this series.

In the end, if you want any kind of love in your life, you have to take emotional risks. If you don't get out there and at least try to meet people - including admitting to them that you might be romantically/sexually interested - then life will pass you by. Your negative emotions will curdle, and you'll end up one of those angry, self-pitying incels who hate in others what they've denied to themselves.

 

[Jebsu]

Hey thanks, I really do appreciate that. I do tend to be a pessimist but differing perspectives are important to view a subject from a wider angle. I don't think I'm mad at women, but you are right that it is important to check oneself and not go down that path. I still have some thinking to do, but I think what you said is valuable.

My dude some people cheat it depends on the person manga (especially this one) are exaggerated for entertainment value. Think about it, if say Rental Girlfriend was real life the human race would be extinct.

There are of course women like the one in this manga but there are also ones on the exact opposite of the spectrum usually highly conservative.

If you're looking for romance manga that are more on the single relationship adults side (and are top tier shit IMO) try, Telework Yotabanashi, and bonnouji

Try to remember it takes all kinds in this world. On the male side, just as their are Markipliers out there, there are also Andrew Tates lol.

 

[waandwe]

Is real life really like this? Am I saving myself for nothing? Am I just wasting my 20s looking and waiting for the right one? I don't think I should have started reading this manga but I can't stop.

don't worry too much on getting girls while ur still young... focus on yourself to get better... if you find a girl for you in your 20s then great if not then it's all fine... build up your confidence first, get a job and save up money... happiness will find you soon after that

 

[conquestking]

I'm not sure I get where you're coming from, @conquestking. I mean, I completely understand why one might choose not to pursue shallow relationships and casual sex. But to truly "detest the thought" of such things? That seems rather extreme. And while you often mention morals, you never describe the principles that might justify your prejudice.

When it comes to relationships, no one is normal, and there's no single right way way to do it. Some people hook up with random strangers, while others hold out for a lifelong commitment. Neither approach is particularly rare (you are nothing like Lonesome George), and there's lots of room in between. Wholesome fluffy romcoms are, in their way, just as realistic as the transactional carnality of this series.

In the end, if you want any kind of love in your life, you have to take emotional risks. If you don't get out there and at least try to meet people - including admitting to them that you might be romantically/sexually interested - then life will pass you by. Your negative emotions will curdle, and you'll end up one of those angry, self-pitying incels who hate in others what they've denied to themselves.

Yes, I personally detest the thought of it. I want people to value themselves more. But as I've started before, I'm not going to force those morals onto others. It's just personal preference / morality for me.

You, however, are very right about having to take emotional risks. I like your last paragraph quite a bit, and I'll refect seriously on it.

 

[conquestking]

My dude some people cheat it depends on the person manga (especially this one) are exaggerated for entertainment value. Think about it, if say Rental Girlfriend was real life the human race would be extinct.

There are of course women like the one in this manga but there are also ones on the exact opposite of the spectrum usually highly conservative.

If you're looking for romance manga that are more on the single relationship adults side (and are top tier shit IMO) try, Telework Yotabanashi, and bonnouji

Try to remember it takes all kinds in this world. On the male side, just as their are Markipliers out there, there are also Andrew Tates lol.

Thanks for the encouragement and the suggestions.

 

[conquestking]

don't worry too much on getting girls while ur still young... focus on yourself to get better... if you find a girl for you in your 20s then great if not then it's all fine... build up your confidence first, get a job and save up money... happiness will find you soon after that

I've had a long term career, a 401k / Roth I've been building, and decent savings. Reason why I'm saying this is I'm nearing the tail end of my 20s (snuck up on me, damn you covid) I need the social time and the confidence / experience before it's too late.

 

[waandwe]

I've had a long term career, a 401k / Roth I've been building, and decent savings. Reason why I'm saying this is I'm nearing the tail end of my 20s (snuck up on me, damn you covid) I need the social time and the confidence / experience before it's too late.

don't put pressure urself too much, it'll just hurt u more... just take ur time and build up ur confidence... talk to people... talk to people and fail... talk and fail, talk and fail... then ull gain the experience and learn from it, just don't be afraid to fail... out of the 100 people that u talk to AT LEAST one of them will respond... so don't panic and take ur time... late 20s still young 30s still young... old would be around late 40s, 50s and above... you got this dude

 

[beep_repair]

Yes, I personally detest the thought of it. I want people to value themselves more. But as I've started before, I'm not going to force those morals onto others. It's just personal preference / morality for me.

You, however, are very right about having to take emotional risks. I like your last paragraph quite a bit, and I'll refect seriously on it.

Thank you for the kind response, conquestking. I regret in retrospect that the tone of my post was so judgmental & condescending. I rewrote it a couple times in an attempt to sand down the edges, but with little evident success. I suspect I'm just judgmental & condescending by nature... 😔

In any event, waandwe's response (just above) is 100% on-point. You sound like an intelligent and responsible person at a good point in their life and career. You're still young & fit, so there's no need to put too much extra pressure on yourself. As waandwe said, you got this

 

[havelmom]

So does anyone know how this turns out? Does he become a cuck where he watches her get banged by other guys or does he turn her into his girlfriend?

in the pixiv webcomic he fucks the shit out her in the next chapter, and the next, and the next and the next... it's basically 4 or 5 chapters of them fucking like rabbits

 

[Spooder9]

thanks for the chap

 

[conquestking]

Thank you for the kind response, conquestking. I regret in retrospect that the tone of my post was so judgmental & condescending. I rewrote it a couple times in an attempt to sand down the edges, but with little evident success. I suspect I'm just judgmental & condescending by nature... 😔

In any event, waandwe's response (just above) is 100% on-point. You sound like an intelligent and responsible person at a good point in their life and career. You're still young & fit, so there's no need to put too much extra pressure on yourself. As waandwe said, you got this

I was happy to discuss this with you, as you actually responded seriously unlike some other troll in this thread. Even if we disagreed on some points, serious good faith conversation is something I respect on the Internet - and of course I respected your perspective after reading it as well. Thank you for the encouragement (and thank you waandwe as well);
I believe this thread overall has improved my outlook and I'm pleased the Internet and this community was able to positively affect my outlook.

 

[Av-kay]

MC seriously needs to be more than the "funny reaction face" guy. It's getting old.

Well tbf in this scenario it was at least reasonable

 

[Av-kay]

The funny part about this chapter is that the manga is going on break just right when they’re going rush to do the deed. The guy translating the NSFW version (who also wrote an essay about how this manga really isn’t NTR) is about to enter the “moment” chapter so it’s interesting following both of these at the same time. I will say though that guy is a real asshole for acting like she’s his property & that girl he just banged is silently there the whole time is just awkward. Thanks for the translations.

I mean, it’s not really NTR, the manga where the guy reincarnates as the douche in a NTR manga had the same discussions

People just seem to tag NTR to literally anything and everything remotely in the vicinity and has made it lose meaning with it’s already vague understanding in the media

People even slap NTR to normal love triangles or love drama