Dark Gathering - Vol. 14 Ch. 52 - Eve Of The Decisive Battle

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Thank you very much for the chapter

Let the Supranatural Battle of Kyoto begin!
 
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That is true, I forgot that.

Still, I wonder why the author deliberatly delays showing us concrete things about those 2 particular ghosts. They must be uberbusted.
There are still 2 more graduates: prototype class 0 and class 3. Yayoi hasn't even mentioned them to Eiko and Keitaro yet.
 
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They really beat a western demon? Holy hell, and that is just one of the 72 of them.
 
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I had a feeling the god will be absorbed by Kubo (Yayoi's main enemy) Since it'll be a walk in the park for them if they captured that god.. Then Kubo absorbing 2 gods will be ridiculous to fight which they might need to collect Demons too..
 
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For future visitors, to help clarify what is meant by "myriad gods" (八百万の神) in the Demon Marbas commentary, Shinto beliefs has three main variations of Kami:
  1. Amatsukami (天津神) - roughly "the gods of the heavenly realm", refers to Kami who reside in the sacred fields of heaven Takamagahara, plus those who were born there and later descended to Japan. Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, etc. are included under this category
  2. Kunitsukami (国津神) - roughly "the gods of the earthly realm", they are often tutelary deities of the land. Susanoo-no-Mikoto, Okuninushi, etc. are included under this category
  3. Yaoyorozu-no-Kami (八百万の神) - roughly "the countless Kami", this is a more general classification that can be equated to Animism, of divine forces of nature residing in everything deserving of respect like mountains, waterfalls, boulders, animals, trees, thunder, ghosts, etc.
(Worth noting, 八百万/8 million was an expression of countlessness at the time)

Kondo-sensei's comments from point number 3 onwards specifically referred to the 八百万の神/Yaoyorozu-no-Kami as the spirit participants of the turf war against Demon Marbas, prior to the final sealing at Kyoto by the Buddhist Nisho Temple.

Meaning no superpowers like the Amatsukami, the Kunitsukami or or other foreign gods (like Hariti) were present, just the local glorious Nippon neighbourhood spirits and their human shaman buddies chasing foreign invaders out of their homes for a millennia. One can only wonder how things would turn out if superpowers DID participate...

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Incidentally, this struggle happened in the 1000 years between the Yayoi Period (1000 BC to 300 AD) and the Nara Period (710 AD to 794 AD) - in other words, before Abe no Seimei was officially born in 921 AD during the Heian Period.

Also, you can't quite tell from this translation, but in this comment, Kondo-sensei was very insistent on the phrasing of " [悪魔マルバス]と呼ばれていたモノ ", or "the thing that is referred to as [Demon Marbas]". This long winded phrasing is used three times, plus once near the start as " [悪魔マルバス]と呼ばれていた霊的なモノ ", or "the spiritual thing that is referred to as [Demon Marbas]"

In other words, by continuously using "thing" (モノ), he's emphasising that this entity is not the full Marbas itself, but a thing resulting from an insufficient summon, yet is nevertheless addressed as Marbas for convenience's sake by its summoners.
 
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Thank you for the translation.

For future visitors, to help clarify what is meant by "myriad gods" (八百万の神) in the Demon Marbas commentary, Shinto beliefs has three main variations of Kami:
  1. Amatsukami (天津神) - roughly "the gods of the heavenly realm", refers to Kami who reside in the sacred fields of heaven Takamagahara, plus those who were born there and later descended to Japan. Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, etc. are included under this category
  2. Kunitsukami (国津神) - roughly "the gods of the earthly realm", they are often tutelary deities of the land. Susanoo-no-Mikoto, Okuninushi, etc. are included under this category
  3. Yaoyorozu-no-Kami (八百万の神) - roughly "the countless Kami", this is a more general classification that can be equated to Animism, of divine forces of nature residing in everything deserving of respect like mountains, waterfalls, boulders, animals, trees, thunder, ghosts, etc.
(Worth noting, 八百万/8 million was an expression of countlessness at the time)

Kondo-sensei's comments from point number 3 onwards specifically referred to the 八百万の神/Yaoyorozu-no-Kami as the spirit participants of the turf war against Demon Marbas, prior to the final sealing at Kyoto by the Buddhist Nisho Temple.

Meaning no superpowers like the Amatsukami, the Kunitsukami or or other foreign gods (like Hariti) were present, just the local glorious Nippon neighbourhood spirits and their human shaman buddies chasing foreign invaders out of their homes for a millennia. One can only wonder how things would turn out if superpowers DID participate...

---

Incidentally, this struggle happened in the 1000 years between the Yayoi Period (1000 BC to 300 AD) and the Nara Period (710 AD to 794 AD) - in other words, before Abe no Seimei was officially born in 921 AD during the Heian Period.

Also, you can't quite tell from this translation, but in this comment, Kondo-sensei was very insistent on the phrasing of " [悪魔マルバス]と呼ばれていたモノ ", or "the thing that is referred to as [Demon Marbas]". This long winded phrasing is used three times, plus once near the start as " [悪魔マルバス]と呼ばれていた霊的なモノ ", or "the spiritual thing that is referred to as [Demon Marbas]"

In other words, by continuously using "thing" (モノ), he's emphasising that this entity is not the full Marbas itself, but a thing resulting from an insufficient summon, yet is nevertheless addressed as Marbas for convenience's sake by its summoners.
Very interesting. It sorta reminds me in SMTIII: Nocturne how, in a certain sidequest, the Manikins mess up in their summoning of Mara, resulting in him being summoned as this amorphous blob that you end up fighting. Yet he's still regarded as Mara anyway.

A lot of people liken this series to Pokémon (and for good reason, even Kondo leans into it on occasion), but I always likened it to SMT. And this chapter (coupled with Kondo's commentary) really reinforces this notion for me. I'm also coming off of playing SMTV Vengeance (good game), which makes mention of Amatsukami and the "Myriad Gods" (hell even the latter is the entire crux of one of the Chaos routes).
 

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