Destiny Unchain Online ~Kyuuketsu-ki Shoujo to natte, Yagate『Aka no Maou』to Yobareru You ni Narimashita~ - Vol. 4 Ch. 32 - Passion of the Heart

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Uuuh, pvp in the wilds (at least if you ambush) is frowned upon, and pve is against the rules? How are ppl supposed to play that damn game? It is clearly designed for more than pvp in the arenas. Hell, even mc has been doing PVE since the start!
Why would you even make all monsters belong to factions or otherwise unable to respawn? That way there is no PVE you can do without getting banned.
Sure, they prolly actually meant "monsters belonging to factions and able to communicate", but they merely said "monster pk" in general.

Though disregarding all of the above, the entire premise is stupid already when the devs make the monsters killable in the first place. If you don't want ppl to kill them, to the point you ban ppl for it... then don't make it possible! lol
 
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Uuuh, pvp in the wilds (at least if you ambush) is frowned upon, and pve is against the rules? How are ppl supposed to play that damn game? It is clearly designed for more than pvp in the arenas. Hell, even mc has been doing PVE since the start!
Why would you even make all monsters belong to factions or otherwise unable to respawn? That way there is no PVE you can do without getting banned.
Sure, they prolly actually meant "monsters belonging to factions and able to communicate", but they merely said "monster pk" in general.

Though disregarding all of the above, the entire premise is stupid already when the devs make the monsters killable in the first place. If you don't want ppl to kill them, to the point you ban ppl for it... then don't make it possible! lol
Monster PK is the act of using a train of monsters to kill a player which is a bannable offence in MMOs since its counted as griefing, ganking in a pvp zone is totally fine but that wasn't what the PK'ers were doing.
 
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Monster PK is the act of using a train of monsters to kill a player which is a bannable offence in MMOs since its counted as griefing, ganking in a pvp zone is totally fine but that wasn't what the PK'ers were doing.
ah. I thought they were referring to the act of depopulating a Location Of Interest of its npc's, removing quests and stores and lore from the world.

Yeah, monster trains is often depicted as a bannable offense, though all mmo's I have played limits the aggro radius so you can't do them anyway. Unless you are in an instanced dungeon limited by geometry instead. But then you are only screwing over your own party :p
 
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ah. I thought they were referring to the act of depopulating a Location Of Interest of its npc's, removing quests and stores and lore from the world.

Yeah, monster trains is often depicted as a bannable offense, though all mmo's I have played limits the aggro radius so you can't do them anyway. Unless you are in an instanced dungeon limited by geometry instead. But then you are only screwing over your own party :p
This shit goes back to the days of Everquest and FFXI and the like where monster aggro usually held until you "zoned" into the adjoining area. Often times you'll see a random shout of "train to zone" as a heads up to gtfo from the zone line before the mob train finds a new victim.

Griefing via monster trains is very much a bannable offense as usually a single monster was scaled to be killed as a group (slow combat, even slower progression)
and a group of them spelt doom for anyone involved.
Death penalties were also harsh where an entire night of progress could be wiped out by a single death and corpse runs meant running back to your body naked.

Google Fansy the bard when you get some time. It's a hilarious read of one man's journey to absolutely wreck a no-rules pvp server forcing the developers to change their own policies. Multiple times.
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Some web novel spoilers for you.

He is a vampire irl. When they were kids he bit his female friend and she has visible scars on her neck now and it caused him to basically lean toward the human side of his genes from his dad and become a vegan. They let him do tons of pvp games and combat related sports irl to supress his urges, but that would only last so long. So, his dad made the game and connected it to the medical pod to let him subconsciously choose whether or not his DNA would be rewritten to human or vampire irl. I think the whole turning into a girl thing was an accident. Since, when he gets out of the tube he looks just like Crim irl.
So, does this mean that
there exists "fantasy" races out in the 'real world' naturally? I was expecting some kind of "it's not actually a game but parallel universe thing isekai with extra steps" kind of reveal to explain stuff.
 
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So, does this mean that
there exists "fantasy" races out in the 'real world' naturally? I was expecting some kind of "it's not actually a game but parallel universe thing isekai with extra steps" kind of reveal to explain stuff.
There's another world akin to Gensokyo in Touhou in this universe. Crim's mother came from that world.
 
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so basically breaking a mine rail is "normal"??? that's quite literally broken games
did author just forget mine rails are made of iron, not clay???
if he can do that, he should be able to break weapons too (albeit with more difficulty) but he's not

the plot armor is thick here, not in a good way though
 
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so basically breaking a mine rail is "normal"??? that's quite literally broken games
did author just forget mine rails are made of iron, not clay???
if he can do that, he should be able to break weapons too (albeit with more difficulty) but he's not

the plot armor is thick here, not in a good way though
They were expressing surprise over it, so no, it isn't normal.
It was also sliced apart by his sword already, so one end of it was loose.
From how I interpreted the scene, he also didn't actually break it, only bend it up to hit her. So the other end is still attached.
Finally, this game seems to operate under rarity rules (similar to the underworld in the alicization project), where the rail was rather low quality and thus much easier to break. Whereas swords or armor is made using higher rarity loot and as such has much higher authority values.
Yeah, I knew about monster trains. Just not Monster PKs (well, that's sort of a lie. I did remember encountering the phrase in that context in some story before after you had explained it to me :p but with how fallible memory is, that might just have been edited in in real time :d). What I were saying is that I have never played a game where you can train mobs on someone entirely unrelated in quite that same manner. Because devs solved that issue ages ago.
 
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some story before after you had explained it to me :p but with how fallible memory is, that might just have been edited in in real time :d). What I were saying is that I have never played a game where you can train mobs on someone entirely unrelated in quite that same manner. Because devs solved that issue ages ago.
Nowadays MMOs have systems in place to stop it from happening but one of the tricks is to get a bunch of aggroable mobs and then port out in aggro range of other players, another is dragging mobs with aoe to do big damage on people you pass through or run the mobs through a group using aoe skills (This happened a few times in WoW to me in a pvp server)
It's very much an old school thing nowadays and you don't see many games with the design to allow for that kind of thing.
 
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Interesting to see the size differences on page 6.

Also, "Want a katana?"
*wags tail*

Honestly, moping because you lost one fight is kind of weak. Grow some balls or something, will ya?

That katana, probably more accurately a nagamaki, is really more of a polearm than a sword for her.
 

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