Destiny Unchain Online ~Kyuuketsu-ki Shoujo to natte, Yagate『Aka no Maou』to Yobareru You ni Narimashita~ - Vol. 9 Ch. 77 - Just a Game

[ritoshishino]

i love that griefing and ruining a kid's fun is the line for every games. Like sure adults can duke it out however you like but you don't get kids involved

 

[Kyujyu]

When the youngest kid being the most matured of all among the adults, you know you F up somewhere 😅

 

[Kanade0021]

thanks for the translation!

 

[Sandmann1st]

they are locking in now
trading luka is crazy tho 😭

 

[lolfacesayshi]

Now the match actually starts.

 

[Flame-2-Haze]

Gud news everyone.

Spoiler: match is finally over

at ch 87 (ch 88 is post-match including Bianca revealing what Hinagiku said)

Match or whole tourney arc? 10+ chapters for a single match seems excessive.

 

[WillLi]

Is it even against the rules? The game seems pretty "do what you want".

Plus even if it is not allowed you'd have to prove it and judging from the way they are going about it it wouldnt be super easy to prove. Worst they would get is probably a warning, if even that.

Griefing is almost certainly against the rules. Even when PK is allowed, intentionally sabotaging your teammates is almost never allowed in any game DURING competition. And it would be terrible writing if the author said it was allowed because this is supposed to be a game world, allowing griefing in a game world is terrible because it will very quickly stop being fun for most people.

 

[WillLi]

Really not pleased with this match as a whole. Especially now that they're on a 'redemption arc' path. Why do Japanese stories love to make terrible people, then turn them good after they do actual damage, and have them suffer no consequences?

 

[AccForManga]

Really not pleased with this match as a whole. Especially now that they're on a 'redemption arc' path. Why do Japanese stories love to make terrible people, then turn them good after they do actual damage, and have them suffer no consequences?

I mean...it IS just a game. They aren't really terrible people.

Griefing is almost certainly against the rules. Even when PK is allowed, intentionally sabotaging your teammates is almost never allowed in any game DURING competition. And it would be terrible writing if the author said it was allowed because this is supposed to be a game world, allowing griefing in a game world is terrible because it will very quickly stop being fun for most people.

This whole game was made for Crim though. Its probably not as important to the parents if the game does well as long as it helps their child in whatever the heck they have planned for Crim/Kou.

But the fact the world is meant to be "real" to players including such advanced NPCs it makes more sense that at worst the PK'ers would only be banned from future competitions not outright banned from the game since that would be like killing them in the game if they cant play more which seems excessive for a competition violation. Thats like killing a sport player if they cheated in a match...

I genuinely dont this its that massive an issue, can't lie. I like more anything goes if the world is meant to feel more real.

 

[popo53414]

Since I will not be playing gta 6 online, I hope it's got one of those "play to earn" systems and griefing is more horrendous than ever

 

[nyagga]

Everywhere I go, I see Luka 💔

 

[Kushikime]

Thanks for the chapter. Great Mavs meme LOL

 

[Darris]

God this arc sucks. Can we go back to fun adventure hijInx? I give 0 fucks about these pathetic characters.

 

[blacksaber79]

Gud news everyone.

Spoiler: match is finally over

at ch 87 (ch 88 is post-match including Bianca revealing what Hinagiku said)

1. Thank you
2. Man that's a long wait...

 

[WillLi]

I mean...it IS just a game. They aren't really terrible people.

This whole game was made for Crim though. Its probably not as important to the parents if the game does well as long as it helps their child in whatever the heck they have planned for Crim/Kou.

But the fact the world is meant to be "real" to players including such advanced NPCs it makes more sense that at worst the PK'ers would only be banned from future competitions not outright banned from the game since that would be like killing them in the game if they cant play more which seems excessive for a competition violation. Thats like killing a sport player if they cheated in a match...

I genuinely dont this its that massive an issue, can't lie. I like more anything goes if the world is meant to feel more real.

Griefing is a sign that you're a pretty bad person. Because to intentionally grief someone you have to decide that you are going to spend your time intentionally ruining people's fun. It's one thing to grief your friends because then it's just a 'joke'. But when you decide "Nah I'm just going to go around ruining people's day for lulz" then you're a pretty terrible person on the inside.

Also no the game is not meant to be 'real' it's supposed to have realism. We know it's not meant to be real because of remember the discussion about teaming and shady win methods? They are still holding to gamer etiquette.

And even if they weren't it's still the PKer's being terrible people without punishment regardless of 'etiquette'. Firstly they were PKer's, not PvP players. They weren't fighting other people ready to fight, they were ambushing random people to steal their stuff. Even though it's a 'legitimate style of play' if you want to talk "realism" that makes them bandits. Then after they got beat they slandered the MC with a bunch of lies and spread them in the news paper. And now they were griefing for no reason other than teh leader is pathetic. Letting them get away with all that from a writing perspective is saying "Despite all teh trouble it caused and how the characters in story straight up said they were doing wrong, it's not wrong."

 

[AccForManga]

Griefing is a sign that you're a pretty bad person. Because to intentionally grief someone you have to decide that you are going to spend your time intentionally ruining people's fun. It's one thing to grief your friends because then it's just a 'joke'. But when you decide "Nah I'm just going to go around ruining people's day for lulz" then you're a pretty terrible person on the inside.

Also no the game is not meant to be 'real' it's supposed to have realism. We know it's not meant to be real because of remember the discussion about teaming and shady win methods? They are still holding to gamer etiquette.

And even if they weren't it's still the PKer's being terrible people without punishment regardless of 'etiquette'. Firstly they were PKer's, not PvP players. They weren't fighting other people ready to fight, they were ambushing random people to steal their stuff. Even though it's a 'legitimate style of play' if you want to talk "realism" that makes them bandits. Then after they got beat they slandered the MC with a bunch of lies and spread them in the news paper. And now they were griefing for no reason other than teh leader is pathetic. Letting them get away with all that from a writing perspective is saying "Despite all teh trouble it caused and how the characters in story straight up said they were doing wrong, it's not wrong."

I really don't think its all that serious.

You aren't a bad person simply for trolling in a video game. It's...just a game. That's taking things way too personally. Being racist/sexist/homophobic/etc to people in game? Sure, bad person since that's getting personal/personal attacks. That goes beyond the game.

But just trolling/pk'ing? Annoying sure but bad person? Nah.

 

[2hu_ism]

I really don't think its all that serious.

You aren't a bad person simply for trolling in a video game. It's...just a game. That's taking things way too personally. Being racist/sexist/homophobic/etc to people in game? Sure, bad person since that's getting personal/personal attacks. That goes beyond the game.

But just trolling/pk'ing? Annoying sure but bad person? Nah.

I feel otherwise, "personal attack" is like good morning in MOBA. it's "you do it, we do it back" (I'm SEA so It's biased tho)

Griefing/throwing tho? that's ass because you ruined entire room fun. not only your team but your opponent too(Unless they're big number type who only care for their K/D ratio then they probably enjoy free feast) you also ruined audience fun. like throwing soccer/basketball match.

I did it sometimes when I was highschool but not because I find it funny but because some DPS jerk think he's all mighty without support and some didn't even check ping/map so they got killed even I warded and warned them everytime opponent went to them but blame me instead.

but usually, I went to DPS/roam role instead. and either kill steal(when the game is hopeless) or carry/turn the table the game as support instead(if opponent aren't well organized or others people are playing well) The best medicine to shut up DPS jerk is show them you're better player than them and YOU(and team) don't need them to win at all.

People can be racist/trashtalk but still can be co-op and playing normally cuz their goal aligns(want to win). but throwing/griefing is cataclysm for hell unleashed.

 

[DepartmentOfTransportation]

But the fact the world is meant to be "real" to players including such advanced NPCs it makes more sense that at worst the PK'ers would only be banned from future competitions not outright banned from the game since that would be like killing them in the game if they cant play more which seems excessive for a competition violation. Thats like killing a sport player if they cheated in a match...

Another thing to note is that for all the audience/admins know, the "trolling" could be an intentional strategy to bait the other team into being more vulnerable - note how the black rabbits still took them seriously and were afraid of getting ganked even after witnessing all of the trolling. There's no way of outsiders knowing if they're actually griefing or just doing a 500 iq play, especially now that they'll be working together.

 

[vampireloli360]

I wonder how many chapters will it take for Crim/Kou to wake up?

 

[Reizor]

kek'd at the credits page