Dou ka Ore wo Houtte Oitekure - Vol. 4 Ch. 22 - The Popular Girls in Class Still Won't Let Their Guard Down Around Me, Alright?

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Thanks for the translation.
Did someone read the LN? Would love to be spoilered a bit.
 
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You're now 8 comments deep into his behavior with triple the lines that he has in the chapter but sure buddy.
Cool...

Still doesn't explain how I'm "projecting." But since people are apparently so weirdly bothered by me not liking this guy I'll just put a pin in it right here. Perhaps I should have said nothing if this is how people were gonna react 😑.
 
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Boo. So they decided to go down the boring route of dispelling every rumor about dating Sora. That just makes it harder for an actual romance between him and her to spring up in this story. Probably a good thing for those in Ruri or Mashiro's corner though. But I don't like it because I'm rooting for team Sora.

His blush on page 10 after getting a taste of what friendship could be like tells me all I need to know about this self-proclaimed "loner". Just like a certain fox insisting the grapes are sour, but then gets a lick of the grape juice and craves it.

Man, that one female classmate is really one of those insufferable K-types. I'm tempted to call her a rabid dog, even.

Wow, so much introspection and reflection going on this chapter for him, especially on page 22. Still up to the usual antics he's used to, but things are definitely changing for him this time around.

I'd like to say Ruri talking to him was a sign of her ice queen facade beginning to melt, but that last dialog box is making me think twice. Is this the start of a new arc with Ruri in the center?
 
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Man this manga is compelling and sweet. How the hell does this have such a quick fate and trash just goes on for hundreds. Sucks man.
 
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Fuck that class, wayyy to complicated even compared to irl. It's like everyone holding daggers behind their back, school kids aren't that smart.

This bootleg 8man should just put his seeds into all the girls
 
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So this is pretty much a lost cause. I'm of the cynical impression that anime serves to boost manga sales and manga serves to boost LN sales, if the source material is already axed the offshoot isn't long for this world.
there is exceptions
 
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Ive seen most of your say the ending its coming cause the LN got axed but I don't think that will stop the manga of making its own ending like many animes that make their own endings
Kinda hope the manga got a different editor.
 
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Spent a few minutes wondering what my favorite Cuno quote was but decided to leave it alone.
cuz’ Cuno doesn’t fookin care!
 
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In full and blatant honesty I am reading this series out of a completionist mindset and sheer boredom; despite this, however, I feel compelled by my foolishness at 2:40am to write about how much I dislike the female characters and the dynamic at play in this series.

To start with, we should set some things clear. The MC is meant to be an exaggerated "Otaku loner" archetype that the reader can project upon. This is exaggerated so that any insults that are hurled at him (which are many) can be deflected by the very specific audience it holds as being only for those who are as bad as his exaggerated characteristics, whilst still making him relatable. The girls are, well, the main attraction just as how these series usually are.

The whole aspect of "socialisation" is demonized and made overtly (though at times sensibly so, perhaps due to the fact that I also lean to some degree into the archetype which this series appeals to) complicated. This is so it can be played for laughs and set up the main character to be relatable to the similarly pathetic, self-comforting and otaku reader.

However, I feel that the series falls into MANY common pitfalls and also writes a lot of these characters into dislikeable ones.

The Main FMC's motivation seems... strange, to say the least. Whilst having your life saved is a big thing, it usually doesn't just progress the romance meter to full; real life, and relationships, don't work like a Galgame. I would expect a manga like this to be more or less aware of that.

The Gal's plotline seems to be more or less solved with her rejection and shoving all Otaku-relations under the rug and insulting the MC. I find that this degrades her character as she really IS just a coward. But thats more just voicing a dislike towards the character following her intentional design, which, though I dislike, is not done poorly.

Prez I actually like.

A more general grievance that I hold is that all the characters are seemingly too willing to;
  • Believe and act baselessly on rumours (which is exaggerated to some extent for the needs of characterisation as stated in paragraph 2, but nonetheless annoying)
  • Unnecessarily hostile to the protagonist or willing to insult him
  • Socialization is demonized for the sake of it

...That's all. Thanks for reading?
 

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