Drawing: Saikyou Mangaka wa Oekaki Skill de Isekai Musou Suru! - Vol. 3 Ch. 28 - The Princess' Heart

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Meh, it's written like the prince is like some evil lord, but he didn't do anything bad. He introduced the country to a new technology and give result. It's not like he was doing humans experiment or something.
Seems they are more worried about him being manipulated by the foreign countries he spent a lot of time living and studying in. Also take into account that he has ambition enough to seek to claim the throne that originally only went to princesses, the attempt at Medis's life and he was able to convince the current queen to give him a legit bid for the throne and yeah even if he's not evil he is very much a threat in a sense.
Now granted, this does not make him a bad guy. He could have used those other countries as a means to strengthen and educate himself for the sake of his country, he legitimate believe that the country needs a ruler who is powerful in magic to combat the current threat (which as far as we know, Medis is not), he could have had nothing to do with what some fanatic members of his faction attempted on Medis and not to mention, Katya (though they tried to downplay it) is not entirely trustworthy, is a hypocrite, narrow-minded (same as she claimed Akira to be), and willing to do underhanded stuff to get what she desires (tbh though, I would have gladly fallen into that honey trap, she IS pretty hot). Oh and she's a liar, she was doing exactly what Medis thought she was doing and in fact trying to do something indecent.
 
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Seems they are more worried about him being manipulated by the foreign countries he spent a lot of time living and studying in. Also take into account that he has ambition enough to seek to claim the throne that originally only went to princesses, the attempt at Medis's life and he was able to convince the current queen to give him a legit bid for the throne and yeah even if he's not evil he is very much a threat in a sense.
Now granted, this does not make him a bad guy. He could have used those other countries as a means to strengthen and educate himself for the sake of his country, he legitimate believe that the country needs a ruler who is powerful in magic to combat the current threat (which as far as we know, Medis is not), he could have had nothing to do with what some fanatic members of his faction attempted on Medis and not to mention, Katya (though they tried to downplay it) is not entirely trustworthy, is a hypocrite, narrow-minded (same as she claimed Akira to be), and willing to do underhanded stuff to get what she desires (tbh though, I would have gladly fallen into that honey trap, she IS pretty hot). Oh and she's a liar, she was doing exactly what Medis thought she was doing and in fact trying to do something indecent.
I do think they did a pretty poor job of motivating why the prince ascending to the throne is bad other than "eeh, it'll become like a puppet state or something". Like, ok, why is that bad for regular people? And if that's such a bad thing, why would the queen allow him to become a candidate to the throne in the first place? Is she just a big dum-dum who doesn't understand politics? Katia understands politics much better than the queen? Wut? And if Medisfina just stepped aside, he wouldn't have tried to kill her. If turning the country into a magical powerhouse is what's necessary to protect it from the existential threat of the Oder, and Medisfina stands in the way of that happening, then assassinating her seems like the right thing to do, honestly. Better her than the country getting wiped out by a horde of magical monsters.
 
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I'm with the MC here, the Princess, Medis, started their reunion talking about how he needs him and his power. Why not first reminisce and catch up first, explain your situation and why you need him as your vassal? To me it feels as though she only made contact with him again because he started showing his power again.
 
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I'm with the MC here, the Princess, Medis, started their reunion talking about how he needs him and his power. Why not first reminisce and catch up first, explain your situation and why you need him as your vassal? To me it feels as though she only made contact with him again because he started showing his power again.
Yeah, I mean, she can talk all she wants about how she's just asking him and not commanding him, but the reason she called him up now is because she needs his power, and she even broke the promise and outed him to Katia (which means she outed him to everyone cause Katia doesn't give a flying fuck who knows), so it's not like he can just say no and go home and act like nothing happened, cause all kinds of people are definitely come after him now (like, y'know, the evil cult, the guys who found him out during that dragon mission Katia forced him to go on, the people who may very well try to hold his family hostage to get him to do what they want). So, it's like, in practice, she definitely forced him to help them. Which is, y'know, justified, since otherwise the whole country might get wiped out, but she should stop pretending like she's giving him a choice, it's hypocritical.
 
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Yeah, I mean, she can talk all she wants about how she's just asking him and not commanding him, but the reason she called him up now is because she needs his power, and she even broke the promise and outed him to Katia (which means she outed him to everyone cause Katia doesn't give a flying fuck who knows), so it's not like he can just say no and go home and act like nothing happened, cause all kinds of people are definitely come after him now (like, y'know, the evil cult, the guys who found him out during that dragon mission Katia forced him to go on, the people who may very well try to hold his family hostage to get him to do what they want). So, it's like, in practice, she definitely forced him to help them. Which is, y'know, justified, since otherwise the whole country might get wiped out, but she should stop pretending like she's giving him a choice, it's hypocritical.
I wouldn't go that far with Medis but she seriously needs to rein in Katia. He rightfully saw what Medis requested as an order because of how she (Katia) went about it. He was forced to come here, why would he see anything as a request he can say yes or no to? And that isn't even the part I'm mad about. It's that the story is downplaying what Katia did. And the scope of him being mad about it was just him ignoring her for a little bit. Both the magician girl (who's name escape me atm) and Medis should have seriously chewed her ass out for it.

Her little talk with him made me even more mad cause she doesn't even acknowledge that he misunderstood Medis because of her.
 
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Seems they are more worried about him being manipulated by the foreign countries he spent a lot of time living and studying in. Also take into account that he has ambition enough to seek to claim the throne that originally only went to princesses, the attempt at Medis's life and he was able to convince the current queen to give him a legit bid for the throne and yeah even if he's not evil he is very much a threat in a sense.
Now granted, this does not make him a bad guy. He could have used those other countries as a means to strengthen and educate himself for the sake of his country, he legitimate believe that the country needs a ruler who is powerful in magic to combat the current threat (which as far as we know, Medis is not), he could have had nothing to do with what some fanatic members of his faction attempted on Medis and not to mention, Katya (though they tried to downplay it) is not entirely trustworthy, is a hypocrite, narrow-minded (same as she claimed Akira to be), and willing to do underhanded stuff to get what she desires (tbh though, I would have gladly fallen into that honey trap, she IS pretty hot). Oh and she's a liar, she was doing exactly what Medis thought she was doing and in fact trying to do something indecent.
I get it, I just feel it's a poor excuse to have the main character moving.
 
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I get it, I just feel it's a poor excuse to have the main character moving.
Oh I agree. This whole thing could have been done so much better without murdering Katia's character, Medis's intelligence and trying to somehow make it the MC's fault for the misunderstanding he naturally arrived to. Honestly, when it comes to the Prince I'm reserving an innocent til proven guilty thought process 100% because of where this information is coming from.
Am I being too hard on Katia? Maybe. But some things can't be pardoned just because she's hot.
 
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Please continue translating the old chapters! Your work has been so much better for it.
 
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Yeah, I mean, she can talk all she wants about how she's just asking him and not commanding him, but the reason she called him up now is because she needs his power, and she even broke the promise and outed him to Katia (which means she outed him to everyone cause Katia doesn't give a flying fuck who knows), so it's not like he can just say no and go home and act like nothing happened, cause all kinds of people are definitely come after him now (like, y'know, the evil cult, the guys who found him out during that dragon mission Katia forced him to go on, the people who may very well try to hold his family hostage to get him to do what they want). So, it's like, in practice, she definitely forced him to help them. Which is, y'know, justified, since otherwise the whole country might get wiped out, but she should stop pretending like she's giving him a choice, it's hypocritical.
I wouldn't go that far with Medis but she seriously needs to rein in Katia. He rightfully saw what Medis requested as an order because of how she (Katia) went about it. He was forced to come here, why would he see anything as a request he can say yes or no to? And that isn't even the part I'm mad about. It's that the story is downplaying what Katia did. And the scope of him being mad about it was just him ignoring her for a little bit. Both the magician girl (who's name escape me atm) and Medis should have seriously chewed her ass out for it.

Her little talk with him made me even more mad cause she doesn't even acknowledge that he misunderstood Medis because of her.
You two very much sum up my take on it. For the most part I don't blame Medis. Even if she did (and I'm assuming she did) harbor feelings to some extent of the MC all this time, her position as first princess would afford her the opportunity or freedom to meet him WITHOUT revealing his power and doing this kind of play. Her keeping quiet as long as she has shows some dedication and that the promise did matter on her part. That said she is now facing a difficult situation. There's nothing unreasonable about asking or even forcing the most powerful person she knows who she also knows is a good person to help especially if it's for the well being of the entire country.

That said it's incredibly frustrating how the story is playing out. There's a major disconnect between the actual situation we're presented with and how the story is trying to play it off. The MC was FORCED here against his will. He doesn't WANT to be a pivotal or notable figure of power. That's literally been the premise with him having greatly disliked how his former life went. Instead of focusing on that and giving us some damn good conflict over it... no one really cares. The MC himself isn't putting up "that" much of a fuss over being ripped from his home and asked to upend his entire life plan for the sake of politics and "saving the entire country" from vague evil magic threat. On the whole evil magic army of undead or whatever that makes more sense because yeah end of the country stuff and they did legally require people with talent go to the magic academy (and seemingly still give them a choice after), so it's like slightly less forced conscription. That makes sense. The prince stuff comes off really weak though. Aside from the assassination attempt, which was suggested as being from the prince's faction (with even that being unconfirmed) not the prince himself (who would have been how old 8 years ago?), he hasn't actually been presented as doing anything bad. The assumption of the country being a puppet to another nation if he takes over is just that, an assumption. And one given by someone who has thus far been incredibly unreliable. Another comment points out that the Queen allowed him the chance to rule breaking tradition due to his achievements, so yeah the assumption is that either we're to believe the queen is trash at politics and doesn't deserve the throne or the prince actually isn't that sketchy and isn't endangering the country. If his methods are proving more effective... how is that bad? Sure tradition calls for queens and focusing on supporting "heroes" but tradition isn't some almighty God. These stories are written as if we don't live in a modern age where most advanced countries called BS on their monarchies and broke royal traditions to move forward. Maybe ending the tradition of only queens leads to getting rid of the monarchy all together and giving the people the power to appoint an elected body. Maybe this is the first step to progress. We don't know.

And oh my god do I hate Katia. Like what the hell. I was so pissed reading the ending scene of her trying to honey trap the MC in his guest room BECAUSE SHE WAS HIGH KEY GASLIGHTING HIM. It's so frustrating because this has the bones to be a great story. An MC who just wants to live a quiet and obscure life but was once again blessed with talent and struggles between what he wants and people who think he has a responsibility to use his talent to help others. This arc is very plainly a point of conflict of that with his childhood friend trying to spare him but herself having a responsibility to her people and political faction, and Katia representing the idea that what the MC wants doesn't matter. There could be a lot of really good conflict. Instead it just comes off as the MC being gaslit and his situation being brushed over by the author themselves.
 
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You two very much sum up my take on it. For the most part I don't blame Medis. Even if she did (and I'm assuming she did) harbor feelings to some extent of the MC all this time, her position as first princess would afford her the opportunity or freedom to meet him WITHOUT revealing his power and doing this kind of play. Her keeping quiet as long as she has shows some dedication and that the promise did matter on her part. That said she is now facing a difficult situation. There's nothing unreasonable about asking or even forcing the most powerful person she knows who she also knows is a good person to help especially if it's for the well being of the entire country.

That said it's incredibly frustrating how the story is playing out. There's a major disconnect between the actual situation we're presented with and how the story is trying to play it off. The MC was FORCED here against his will. He doesn't WANT to be a pivotal or notable figure of power. That's literally been the premise with him having greatly disliked how his former life went. Instead of focusing on that and giving us some damn good conflict over it... no one really cares. The MC himself isn't putting up "that" much of a fuss over being ripped from his home and asked to upend his entire life plan for the sake of politics and "saving the entire country" from vague evil magic threat. On the whole evil magic army of undead or whatever that makes more sense because yeah end of the country stuff and they did legally require people with talent go to the magic academy (and seemingly still give them a choice after), so it's like slightly less forced conscription. That makes sense. The prince stuff comes off really weak though. Aside from the assassination attempt, which was suggested as being from the prince's faction (with even that being unconfirmed) not the prince himself (who would have been how old 8 years ago?), he hasn't actually been presented as doing anything bad. The assumption of the country being a puppet to another nation if he takes over is just that, an assumption. And one given by someone who has thus far been incredibly unreliable. Another comment points out that the Queen allowed him the chance to rule breaking tradition due to his achievements, so yeah the assumption is that either we're to believe the queen is trash at politics and doesn't deserve the throne or the prince actually isn't that sketchy and isn't endangering the country. If his methods are proving more effective... how is that bad? Sure tradition calls for queens and focusing on supporting "heroes" but tradition isn't some almighty God. These stories are written as if we don't live in a modern age where most advanced countries called BS on their monarchies and broke royal traditions to move forward. Maybe ending the tradition of only queens leads to getting rid of the monarchy all together and giving the people the power to appoint an elected body. Maybe this is the first step to progress. We don't know.

And oh my god do I hate Katia. Like what the hell. I was so pissed reading the ending scene of her trying to honey trap the MC in his guest room BECAUSE SHE WAS HIGH KEY GASLIGHTING HIM. It's so frustrating because this has the bones to be a great story. An MC who just wants to live a quiet and obscure life but was once again blessed with talent and struggles between what he wants and people who think he has a responsibility to use his talent to help others. This arc is very plainly a point of conflict of that with his childhood friend trying to spare him but herself having a responsibility to her people and political faction, and Katia representing the idea that what the MC wants doesn't matter. There could be a lot of really good conflict. Instead it just comes off as the MC being gaslit and his situation being brushed over by the author themselves.
Yeah, I mean, it's just bad writing. It's plain to see the author didn't intend for us to see it this way, they just want the MC to get dragged into the action, they want us to like and support the princess as the throne heir and ship her with the MC, they want us to dislike the prince and to find Katia funny as a mildly annoying comic relief character and potentially a future harem member. But they're a shitty writer so they can't make it happen in a plausible way, so it's just resolved with some hand-wavy explanations that don't make any sense and lead to absurd conclusions.
 
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You two very much sum up my take on it. For the most part I don't blame Medis. Even if she did (and I'm assuming she did) harbor feelings to some extent of the MC all this time, her position as first princess would afford her the opportunity or freedom to meet him WITHOUT revealing his power and doing this kind of play. Her keeping quiet as long as she has shows some dedication and that the promise did matter on her part. That said she is now facing a difficult situation. There's nothing unreasonable about asking or even forcing the most powerful person she knows who she also knows is a good person to help especially if it's for the well being of the entire country.

That said it's incredibly frustrating how the story is playing out. There's a major disconnect between the actual situation we're presented with and how the story is trying to play it off. The MC was FORCED here against his will. He doesn't WANT to be a pivotal or notable figure of power. That's literally been the premise with him having greatly disliked how his former life went. Instead of focusing on that and giving us some damn good conflict over it... no one really cares. The MC himself isn't putting up "that" much of a fuss over being ripped from his home and asked to upend his entire life plan for the sake of politics and "saving the entire country" from vague evil magic threat. On the whole evil magic army of undead or whatever that makes more sense because yeah end of the country stuff and they did legally require people with talent go to the magic academy (and seemingly still give them a choice after), so it's like slightly less forced conscription. That makes sense. The prince stuff comes off really weak though. Aside from the assassination attempt, which was suggested as being from the prince's faction (with even that being unconfirmed) not the prince himself (who would have been how old 8 years ago?), he hasn't actually been presented as doing anything bad. The assumption of the country being a puppet to another nation if he takes over is just that, an assumption. And one given by someone who has thus far been incredibly unreliable. Another comment points out that the Queen allowed him the chance to rule breaking tradition due to his achievements, so yeah the assumption is that either we're to believe the queen is trash at politics and doesn't deserve the throne or the prince actually isn't that sketchy and isn't endangering the country. If his methods are proving more effective... how is that bad? Sure tradition calls for queens and focusing on supporting "heroes" but tradition isn't some almighty God. These stories are written as if we don't live in a modern age where most advanced countries called BS on their monarchies and broke royal traditions to move forward. Maybe ending the tradition of only queens leads to getting rid of the monarchy all together and giving the people the power to appoint an elected body. Maybe this is the first step to progress. We don't know.

And oh my god do I hate Katia. Like what the hell. I was so pissed reading the ending scene of her trying to honey trap the MC in his guest room BECAUSE SHE WAS HIGH KEY GASLIGHTING HIM. It's so frustrating because this has the bones to be a great story. An MC who just wants to live a quiet and obscure life but was once again blessed with talent and struggles between what he wants and people who think he has a responsibility to use his talent to help others. This arc is very plainly a point of conflict of that with his childhood friend trying to spare him but herself having a responsibility to her people and political faction, and Katia representing the idea that what the MC wants doesn't matter. There could be a lot of really good conflict. Instead it just comes off as the MC being gaslit and his situation being brushed over by the author themselves.
Nah, there's a reason why they think that the prince is a threat and a bad person. You'll see in the later chaps.
 

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