Elf Dorei to Kizuku Dungeon Harem - Isekai de Netotte Nakama o Fuyashimasu - Vol. 1 Ch. 1.1

[Wolvenworks]

Elf segs? Sign me up!

 

[CraniumAmbiguity]

Manga: Introduces Isekai, then immediately declares upfront that it will not be used.
Chekhov's gun: Touché?

 

[JACGohu]

Story's heading in that kind fo direction just because of the lifestyle chosen by the MC, but in what appears to be a Human-supremacist country, he'll probably wind up doing OP things sooner or later.

 

[Nermie01]

We're talking about different things. You're looking at the perspective of why the writer shapes the plot that way. I'm looking at a few steps before that to why the author doesn't have an issue selecting that plot device in the first place. It's important to understand why happy slave harem stories are considered acceptable in manga when you would never be able to do anything close to this in a western story without significant backlash. And it's not like it's "PC culture" or anything silly like that. It's mostly because the two places have significantly different histories, familiarities, and responses to the concept that shapes their reactions.

Because let's be honest: There are a bajillion ways that some generic isekai'd loser protagonist could get a harem of sexy devoted ladies that wouldn't depend on using literal slavery. If there's an entire cottage industry for first person manga where the key to getting a hot, devoted girl after you is to simply not be an utter bastard, there's room to have a guy get a harem that doesn't involve enslaving people that wouldn't be any more difficult to use and would have the audience overlook its shallowness. It's just that this is a trope that does get used and that makes it appealing to copycats.

And again, you are overthinking it. Slavery is a well-established trope in medieval type fantasy stories. I highly doubt that the author chose to use this trope because of any cultural inadversion to the idea of slavery and more because it is normal for the genre and fits with the story that they want to write in this setting. Trying to claim otherwise is making BROAD assumptions both about the author and the Japanese people in general.

 

[fireproofemu]

Oh my god, I recognize that artwork. The guy had better watch his ass.

 

[knight_evangel]

We're talking about different things. You're looking at the perspective of why the writer shapes the plot that way. I'm looking at a few steps before that to why the author doesn't have an issue selecting that plot device in the first place. It's important to understand why happy slave harem stories are considered acceptable in manga when you would never be able to do anything close to this in a western story without significant backlash. And it's not like it's "PC culture" or anything silly like that. It's mostly because the two places have significantly different histories, familiarities, and responses to the concept that shapes their reactions.

Because let's be honest: There are a bajillion ways that some generic isekai'd loser protagonist could get a harem of sexy devoted ladies that wouldn't depend on using literal slavery. If there's an entire cottage industry for first person manga where the key to getting a hot, devoted girl after you is to simply not be an utter bastard, there's room to have a guy get a harem that doesn't involve enslaving people that wouldn't be any more difficult to use and would have the audience overlook its shallowness. It's just that this is a trope that does get used and that makes it appealing to copycats.

don't worry I understood what you meant. Other guy just can't read. You're obviously not explaining why the author chose X, you're explaining why the manga industry allows x. Two different discussions, and other homie can't get his head out of his butt for a quick sec to realize that.

 

[belenuzx]

there's Netorare tag for this manga on MangaUpdates, any spoiler?

 

[ForTheJerusalem]

He "loves" her yet still keep her as a slave huh.

Common guy, we both know that this isn't the cool and hip (and economically bad) chattel slavery, it isn't even the indentured servitude, it's the default "not really slavery" slavery of isekai worlds.

 

[feha]

"I hate this guy for being a racist, let's throw money at him to make him thrive, and feel rewarded for being difficult and discriminating against elves. Now he knows that there's money in that (and will prolly sell this info about me to other merchants)"
this mc...

 

[JustNatsuki]

He "loves" her yet still keep her as a slave huh.

I find it funny that’s what you’re concerned about

When we just went 6 months from meeting to fucking and nothing but a timeskip in between

Who needs character development amirite

 

[Galihsky]

No "I will try not to stand out so i can get my girl on trouble and then lost someone dear to me and i will awalen my OP MC power?" I'm in.

 

[HolyOrdos]

• Elf literally in shit and tatters
• Some jolly free guy strolls in
• “I am alone too!”

Drop the curtains 💀

 

[MisterMango]

Slavery is based btw.

 

[DisSiteSux]

first chapter: 6 months later.

WTF? Why?
What hack of an author wrote this?

 

[Chawder25]

Wait a minute, this art style looks familiar

 

[WiseOldKing]

why does his face look so off

 

[Thirtyfour]

hate when I have to zoom in 20x to read half a page

 

[katkamisama]

The art for this is thoroughly mediocre and there are quite a few really awkward looking faces. It's got its work cut out for it to keep me interested.



Japan has weird ideas about slavery. Largely, I think, because they don't have the lengthy and more recent history of chattel slavery (the slavery most people think of when they hear the word.) that the west does. Most manga or LNs with slavery elements seem to be more patterned on the idea of indentured servitude or "non-free labor" where people are contracted into the service of others as penance for crime or debt or because they have no other option, being subject to the servitude is either a choice by the person or is accepted consequence for something they've done, and there are certain base expectations of care on the part of the "owner". It also doesn't help that Japan largely tries to downlplay or distance any association it has with slavery or slavery-like situations in recent eras, such as broadly trying to pretend that they didn't use "comfort women" or POWs as de facto slave labor during World War II.

I like how "Isekai Meikyuu de Harem wo" handles the slavery trope. The protagonist still accepts the fact they are still slaves, while his love for his slaves are as pure as your love for your favorite screwdriver you've had for over 5 years. They are still tools he uses to his benefit and doesn't think much about "love" as you would to your fiance.

I don't find any issue with slavery being a main focus on whatever story so as long as it actually makes sense to continue using the term "slave". I'm all for "Stockholm syndrome" BS in these type of stories.

Spoiler: An Archdemon's Dilemma Example

Like Nephelia and Zagan. Keeping her collar because that somehow signifies their bond, but let's be real, that's just to keep the "slave trope" seekers on the loop lol. But it has no place as a slave trope anymore. That was just the device that allowed for them to meet.

Spoiler: A Betrayed S-rank Adventurer, I Make a Slave-only Harem Guild With My Beloved Slaves

This one S-rank adventurer also had same plot device, buying a slave but the trope didn't last past 30 chapters.

Dude, you are waaaaaay overthinking this.

Voluntary slave girls just give the author an excuse to give their MC girls that they really "shouldn't" be able to land any other way without much explanation and without making their MC look scummy (if their readers even care about that) by making it the girl's choice to remain a slave. It's that simple.

This dude gets the point but even so, still calling the heroines slaves without a proper reason for "slavery" feels off.

But I think the first fella is really just tired, fatigued, of the slave stories. Probably just switch to the subgenre of isekai that doesn't involve that theme.