Filter-Goshi no Kanojo - Vol. 4 Ch. 22 - Home Visit! Temari's Place

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raised me as best as they could
makes absolutely no sense, grammatically.

Something cannot be "as best as" because something cannot be both "peerless" and "on the same level with something else" at the same time.

Stop saying this. It makes you sound like a retarded, shallow, vain, ignorant, uneducated parrot. You don't also say "as greenest as", "as fastest as", "as cheapest as", "as dumbest as" etc. either, now do you?
 
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Who thought that stone can be as dense as this!

But in all honesty while I appreciate the progress, I definitely would have loved it if it was just the 2 of them. As even the childhood friend was nice curve ball in their developing relationship. But this is just confusing. Like did she never met another guy before or what?
 
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makes absolutely no sense, grammatically.

Something cannot be "as best as" because something cannot be both "peerless" and "on the same level with something else" at the same time.

Stop saying this. It makes you sound like a retarded, shallow, vain, ignorant, uneducated parrot. You don't also say "as greenest as", "as fastest as", as cheapest as", "as dumbest as" etc. either, now do you?
That sentence is grammatically fine and in common usage.
 
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Man.... I now realised that I don't really care about any of the other girl other than the main fmc mc couple. And lately it's just new girl all over, I guess I'm dropping this soon
 
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in common usage.
That just means there are many more retards out there not thinking worth two fucks about how they sound.

What's the minimum count of people necessary for it to become common? Can you you tell me? Did you count? If people started slapping you in the face, what's the minimum amount of slaps for it to become common and for you to accept it? Do you always have no actual argument, or only when you're awake?

Go back to school and learn what these English words actually mean.
 
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That just means there are many more retards out there not thinking worth two fucks about how they sound.

What's the minimum count of people necessary for it to become common? Can you you tell me? Did you count?
Stuff like this simply is how languages evolve, and how previously "incorrect" forms become standard. It's why the dative form of the plural ye, "you", is now something as fundamental as the English singular nominative second person pronoun instead of thou.

Enough "retards" misused the word so much that even you are now using it just like they were.
 
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That just means there are many more retards out there not thinking worth two fucks about how they sound.

What's the minimum count of people necessary for it to become common? Can you you tell me? Did you count? If people started slapping you in the face, what's the minimum amount of slaps for it to become common and for you to accept it? Do you always have no actual argument, or only when you're awake?

Go back to school and learn what these English words actually mean.
The minimum count of people necessary is if you hear a phrase, you understand the meaning and it doesn't sound awkward. "In common usage" is what determines what's correct in language, not whether or not you believe some word usage is logically consistent or something. Language isn't math, it doesn't need to be consistent to be correct
 
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Stuff like this simply is how languages evolve
And that's still bullshit. Language doesn't magically evolve on its own. 100 % of all language evolution to have ever happened, and to ever happen, did, does, and will do so solely and consciously through its users.
and how previously "incorrect" forms become standard
Through exactly whose usage again? Congratulations on inferring the trivially obvious; all you argued with that was that negligence and laziness isn't exactly a recent phenomenon. But just because people robbed and murdered other people 2000 years ago still doesn't make it right today, either, now does it?

Either way, what even was the point of invoking that historic precedence? Yes, "ye vs. you" happened, congratulations, you've read something a book. In practice, however, this means nothing: it happened way back in the past; insisting on going back to the now rightfully archaic would be pointlessly, self-servingly anachronistic, whereas this here is about a creep that's happening right now: Right now you have the chance to decide to simply not contribute to the perpetuation of this idiotic corruption of perfectly good grammar. But do you do it? No. Instead of committing to making conscious and productive use of the tools and avenues that are afforded to you by the commonly agreed-upon, widely taught, and ubiquitously consultable rules and guidelines for conveying ideas, notions, and concepts in written and spoken language called spelling and grammar, you prefer to feeling some inalienable right to be a lazy, negligent fuck violated and pulling some moronic argumentation out of your ass why that factlet is now supposed to be a carte blanche to just write and spell and word as if everything was just write-only memory. When did it leave your mind that language doesn't just serve itself but exists for a reason? If you're not willing to make an effort to be understood and pleasant to follow, why do you bother even appearing to be communicating? Strikes me as an odd waste of time. If all you're interested in is to know your incoherent bleating to be inevitably witnessed by the masses, might as well post your stuff on some more one-way media. I hear Twitter does this rather well.

Go on then, spell "a lot" in one word, spell "could care less", spell "c/w/should of". Go on then, lead the new line in a line break with the hyphen that should have gone at the end of the previous part like so many education-resistant TS present on this site insist on doing, even though it has exactly zero justification in modern typography, drop the vocative comma and then go "haha funny, eat grandma for dinner" like that's some innate and uncontrollable quirk of written English and not your weaseling out of paying due diligence for readability, not forcing the reader to backtrack and reassemble the intended meaning from your half-assed regurgitation. Go on, treat everything you ever communicate as if there was a continuous competition of how much you can be a lazy motherfucker before your utterances become truly unintelligible.

100 % of this is avoidable. Nobody here or there is innocent.

you understand the meaning
So, if I refer to you as "moron" it would be fine; after all you would understand the meaning of me just referring to you, yes?
and it doesn't sound awkward.
Says who? Clearly I think it sounds awkward, haven't you paid attention? Granted, I don't claim to be the standard authority of things, and while it's just me who happened to choose to raise this issue on this occasion, yet: absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. I clearly managed to pay attention, clearly remember my primary-level grammar; why can't you? Who are you, who is anyone, to decide that that's suddenly void?
Language isn't math, it doesn't need to be consistent to be correct
Clearly you fail to understand the purpose of language and how it applies to both math(s) and to spoken and written prose, or you wouldn't resort to such laughably treat-the-symptom-not-the-cause-style of argumentation.

All I've heard are petty excuses and deferrences of responsibility. I have yet to hear a single actual justification worth the term.
 
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Clearly you fail to understand the purpose of language and how it applies to both math(s) and to spoken and written prose, or you wouldn't resort to such laughably treat-the-symptom-not-the-cause-style of argumentation.
What would you say the purpose of language is?
 
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All I've heard are petty excuses and deferrences of responsibility. I have yet to hear a single actual justification worth the term.
have you gone to a business school? they create shitty buzzwords as they breathe, and some of this shit sticks to general usage.
also, team may not be native english for all i know...
 
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Language doesn't magically evolve on its own. 100 % of all language evolution to have ever happened, and to ever happen, did, does, and will do so solely and consciously through its users.
Well yeah. Natural languages don't evolve on their own because they don't exist speaker-independently.

But just because people robbed and murdered other people 2000 years ago still doesn't make it right today, either, now does it?
I really don't know how you expect me to take anything else you say seriously after comparing nonstandard grammar to theft and murder, jesus christ

Never mind
 
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I really don't know how you expect me to take anything else you say seriously after comparing nonstandard grammar to theft and murder, jesus christ
Maybe that I actually didn't? What I did do was to illustrate how ass-pulled your way of reasoning was.

Literally your entire argument boils down to there being no point to having any rules or guidelines for anything ever because as long as there's enough abuse thereof it will be common and accepted practice anyway.
 
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He speaketh truth, thou knowest...
'Twas overlong misuse of speech which hath wrought the change in tongue.
With the small difference that education in modern standard English (or any applicable language for that matter) being practically ubiquitously available today, providing an easily referrable baseline for everyone that takes a conscious effort to disregard for no productive advantage, mind.
 
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With the small difference that education in modern standard English (or any applicable language for that matter) being practically ubiquitously available today, providing an easily referrable baseline for everyone that takes a conscious effort to disregard for no productive advantage, mind.
If it makes you feel better, I won’t be working on this manga after the next chapter. Hopefully, the next person handling the translation will be a much better candidate than I am.

Also, if you don’t mind, why not join AW as a proofreader? Since the translation script needs to be reviewed by a proofreader before it can be uploaded, you could help make this manga even better.
 
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If it makes you feel better, I won’t be working on this manga after the next chapter.
No, it doesn't. Why would you think that?

This wasn't about you. Mistakes happen, especially when—as demonstrated so aptly in this thread—they prove so insidious as to be readily and blissfully accepted and even vocally defended as "things so out of anyone's control that they might as well be the standard" while they're anything but.

Nor was it about this having happened in this SL, or any other, by this or any other group, or even an SL at all.

Also, if you don’t mind, why not join AW as a proofreader?
Because I, too, know my limitations. I know enough about this to know I that couldn't fully fill that position, not least due to constraints of time. That's why I raise the issues I spot, and where I spot them, not the ones I don't, nor sit in dozens of SL groups in case they forgot (again) basic, taught, documented written-English conventions.
 
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No, it doesn't. Why would you think that?

This wasn't about you. Mistakes happen, especially when—as demonstrated so aptly in this thread—they prove so insidious as to be readily and blissfully accepted and even vocally defended as "things so out of anyone's control that they might as well be the standard" while they're anything but.

Nor was it about this having happened in this SL, or any other, by this or any other group, or even an SL at all.


Because I, too, know my limitations. I know enough about this to know I that couldn't fully fill that position, not least due to constraints of time. That's why I raise the issues I spot, and where I spot them, not the ones I don't, nor sit in dozens of SL groups in case they forgot (again) basic, taught, documented written-English conventions.

Well, it seems you are dissatisfied with the script I provided. I genuinely hope my replacement will offer you a better reading experience starting from chapter 25, unless the group decides to recreate the script for chapter 24 from scratch, though I wouldn't know about that.

All in all, it is part of my job to ensure readers have a pleasant experience and aren't irritated by common mistakes. If you’re not interested in joining, how about raising the issues in the AW Discord? I’m sure Lord (the project lead) and others will try to address any mistakes.
 
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Well, it seems you are dissatisfied with the script I provided.
my replacement will offer you a better reading experience
Alas, things aren't always as they seem.
I said it before, this wasn't about you. This wasn't about a script that "[you] provided". It is irrelevant who provided it. At most, what mattered is what enabled the issue in question to make it through the pipeline all the way to release and for it to be blissfully accepted, even defended.

I wouldn't expect 100-percent perfect, release-ready script from the TL position in the first place. At most, to get it there is the job of the positions proofreader, editor, quality checker, or what-have-you, formally or whoever feels the call to fill in.

What is it with people misrepresenting even the slightest bit of criticism as a personal attack? Seriously, learn to compartmentalize and to not over-interpret. I don't know you. I can't know you. For all I know you could be my bus driver, dentist, elderly neighbor with seven cats, or childhood crush. I have no stakes in making you feel bad. (Or anything, really. Unless you're my school-years' bullies, then of course I'd happily see your kneecaps tortured with a drill on extra slow.) Depending on your circumstances for leaving, I'd be happy to be sorry to see you go. A little more objectivity, please?

how about raising the issues in the AW Discord?
I'm not going to go around chasing contacts across whatever more or less obscure dungeon they might have chosen to frequent, certainly not for common, preventable, non-SL-exclusive issues. It's released here, so here is what I use to provide feedback. If a publisher doesn't have an avenue of public relations in place where it's released, that's not on me to compensate for. What I do is provide data. And unless forwarding, interpretation, or even training is explicitly agreed upon, that's all you're going to get from me, and you should treat it as such, as nothing more, as nothing less. Simple as that.

Also, it'd require Discord. 'nuff said.
 
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