Fukushuu o Koinegau Saikyou Yuusha wa, Yami no Chikara de Senmetsu Musou Suru - Ch. 105

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you'd think with all the magic, and bullshit in this manga if he wanted to keep pure souls, and keep them pure he'd use illusion magic to not look like the guy terrorizing the world, or better yet put the pure souls into a state of stasis especially if you have a fucking pocket dimension town...

What's the point of people with pure souls if they don't have freedom of choice or become mere collectibles?

Are you a good person if you are unable to act? Morality is an external construct. It's meaningless without action, or at least awareness.


I'm not convinced the situation with Alex is so cut and dried. The premise seems too basic after all the previous arcs, especially the one with the demon princess Theodora. Speaking of which, Raoul appears to endorse her and her use the army to take revenge on him and the humans? Something is off about this pure soul business. Especially since nobody is perfect, and Raoul, as extreme as he is, is aware of that.
 
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I believe the common thread among the pure souls and the tainted souls is selflessness vs selfishness. It is of no coincidence that the pure souls Raoul rescued in the chapter had concern for the other tainted souls, whereas the tainted souls had concern only for themselves. This also explains why the father became tainted as well, as he was fomenting a rebellion against Raoul not out of any moral indignation, but because he wanted his wife and was too arrogant to ask Raoul about it. Furthermore, he tried to get others in on the rebellion regardless of whether it was in their wellbeing or not, again using others for his own selfish benefit.
 
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I believe the common thread among the pure souls and the tainted souls is selflessness vs selfishness. It is of no coincidence that the pure souls Raoul rescued in the chapter had concern for the other tainted souls, whereas the tainted souls had concern only for themselves. This also explains why the father became tainted as well, as he was fomenting a rebellion against Raoul not out of any moral indignation, but because he wanted his wife and was too arrogant to ask Raoul about it. Furthermore, he tried to get others in on the rebellion regardless of whether it was in their wellbeing or not, again using others for his own selfish benefit.
I truly, truly hope this is it, and not that he has been abusing his children. This manga has no qualms about that sort of ugliness being revealed and punished, but those poor kids do not deserve it.
 
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What happens when Raoul realizes that he is / will be the cause of human souls becoming tainted, that he can do no better than the wicked gods?
I find that fear is quite useful in getting humans to walk the virtuous path.
I truly, truly hope this is it, and not that he has been abusing his children. This manga has no qualms about that sort of ugliness being revealed and punished, but those poor kids do not deserve it.
It is true that the manga has no qualms showing evil like that, but I do believe that this is a continuation of the false paradise arc with the neutral souls from earlier. The main problem with the neutral souls from earlier I believe is that they probably had both selfishness and selflessness in the hearts, and when exposed to a paradise that fulfilled their every whim, what need for virtue then? Again, not that the tainted souls cared not for the wellbeing of others, only themselves and satiating their appetites.
 
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I find that fear is quite useful in getting humans to walk the virtuous path.

It is true that the manga has no qualms showing evil like that, but I do believe that this is a continuation of the false paradise arc with the neutral souls from earlier. The main problem with the neutral souls from earlier I believe is that they probably had both selfishness and selflessness in the hearts, and when exposed to a paradise that fulfilled their every whim, what need for virtue then? Again, not that the tainted souls cared not for the wellbeing of others, only themselves and satiating their appetites.
The actions taken in the false paradise were very bad, though, to result in their souls falling in that time- and it was longer than a week, as I recall? Could also have been "just" a week, but either way- for Alex's soul to become tainted that quickly and strongly, not just a little wisp of taint, it comes across as him having done something exceptionally heinous.
 
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This true paradise is yet another test to see if their souls will be tainted. But if Raoul will harm these truly innocents, then his love for his sister isn't enough to save him from damnation.
 
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The mechanics behind soul tainting make no sense
This is some psychopass tier random bullshit
Instead of needing to be a horrible person for a while or killing a man you just need to be panicked for a while and suddenly your soul turns pitch black

Thought crime = hell immediately
 
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So what are the conditions for a "pure" soul? Having never done anything bad? Having done a few forgivable bad stuff and repenting? Having done bad stuff for the right reasons? What exactly is the criteria here?
 
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The mechanics behind soul tainting make no sense
This is some psychopass tier random bullshit
Instead of needing to be a horrible person for a while or killing a man you just need to be panicked for a while and suddenly your soul turns pitch black

Thought crime = hell immediately
You're acting like the surface actions we've been directly shown are what caused it, and not some heinous shit that we haven't which happened offscreen, which has consistantly been the case for people with tainted souls that black.
 
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I'm guessing the whole world will be reset by the end of this and Raoul will be removed as he really isn't doing anything but pure terrorism. His idea of paradise is nothing but being a dictator and saying that people have free choice when in reality nothing (especially that) is black and white. He refuses to see any shade of gray which makes him no better. I feel like he will end up seeing a different path before the story is done. Thanks for the chapter!!!
 
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Yeah, Raoul isnt saving crap. By the time all is said and done. There will be so few humans left that the genetic diversity of humanity will be all but destroyed. Humanity will be genetically screwed.
 
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"Rather than staying in a fake Paradise created by a wicked man"
Yet the Same "Wicked Man" still has better semblance of morals and sanity than 90% of the people down on the ground and even the Gods themselves
As the other woman said, deep down what Alex is worried is about finding his wife, which is a valid concern and what he should have centered his speech on, specially since the start of the chapter showed us that being worried about helping others even those deemed to have tainted souls was a part of what keeps a soul pure

But instead he decided to virtual signal about civic duty towards a corrupt country that didn't really cared about its people, which was a very weak argument, criticize their current environment as hostages to a deranged man, which was a more fair argument if it wasn't because there are no other alternatives given the fact that Kurst is corrupt and at war with demons, and use those things as an excuse to disrupt and manipulate public opinion in order to pursue what he really wanted to do, and that's probably what tainted his soul
 
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So I skipped through all chapters in 3 days.
Is it just me or got the story less interesting after he dealt with Christiana? I don't know. The story feels coherent, but at the same time like an afterthought and the reason to kill is also getting weaker. Like the god of hell... maybe the initial premise just wore of for me...
 
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Wait could this be something with potential? I never thought I'd have hope for this again
 
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I wonder if this "paradise" is less a test of the people Raul brings there than it is a test of himself? Like, seeing if he can build a better world than the gods using the same "materials".
My take on this, which I think ties into his "final revenge", is that this is all to prove to the gods and himself that humanity, wether "tainted" or "pure" (note this is all based on RAOLS standards of purity) are all equally unworthy of existence ( and by extension the gods themselves).

This whole "purity test" we see in this episode is odds on to test the character of the people there, to see if the forced conditions of the island, and Orwellian fear of failure will cause them to fail and become "tainted", again thus proving rails case that humanity is unsaveable.
 
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Seeing those pure souls is really having an effect on me, when 9/10 character you see are scumbags, it really gives you even a tiny bit of hope
 
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I doubt that Raul is testing himself in any way. All the pure souls he is gathering is likely just a means to open up the heavens (where the gods reside) so he can go there and slaughter them all. The question will be if he even cares if the people die in the process.
 

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