Fukushuu o Koinegau Saikyou Yuusha wa, Yami no Chikara de Senmetsu Musou Suru - Ch. 139

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This whole pre-story arc seems like an after thought to everything that already took place in the main story. Doesn't feel natural to how the story started if they were going to do this perspective switch, they should have done it 100 chapters ago.
The main story got resolved long ago. Author has been building new stories for a while now.
 
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Seriously, this has to be fake or the author just pulled this out of his ass. Because Raoul himself also was messing around in Victorias head and going through her memories when he first caused her downfall. You expect me to believe he never saw any of these memories yet these servants did?
 
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This. I'm really kinda hoping its an actual redemption arc. I mean we've all pretty much rooted for her downfall. If this really was the result of possession by a shitty god... and she did it to save his life, I'd be willing to forgive. I mean Raoul has enacted a pretty lengthy punishment so far. I feel that might be enough atonement for her crimes, especially seeing as she might have had little control over it.
There got to be a reason why raol even kept her alive he probably knows the gods were involved.
 
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Author really wants a redemption arc for Victoria. We'll see how that goes.
Is it really redemption? If it's going the way we think it's going it's less so redemption more so another reason for Raoul to hate the gods. Like if it is revealed that we saw a mind controlled by a god Victoria is not responsible for her actions unless you think her bargaining to save his life was a bad thing.
Like that's not really redemption it's an explanation.

Knowing how sadistic this manga is the god probably removed the mind control during her period of endless torture which would explain why she's suddenly madly in love with Raoul because the haze would be gone.
 
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Mother and Ancestor just isn't strong enough to do anything aside from protecting one child.
 
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Ah damn, I'm waiting again, the scene that always makes me curious about the feeling of the chapter where the scene doesn't end when Raoul is beaten
 
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Page 13 is extremely painful to read : Poor Lil Righteous Leon, unaware of the Truth and the things that are to come... I mean, don't get me wrong : I LOVE the current Leon but it breaks my heart to see how Lil Bro used to try to stay clean in a word of shit and, sadly, in the end, we all know he will be permanently stained by it... !!

Also, DAMN !! The spirit of Victoria Mother and that other girl actually tried to stop her from sealing her fate !
Guess there were still people who actually gave a damn about her in the end...

Regarding the Redemption Debate, I guess, at this point, my honest thoughts are :
"Victoria doesn't deserve Redemption... but Vicky does."
 
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Forget Victoria, this whole arc makes Raoul look like a dumbfuck in retrospec. You were this perceptive when you were like fucking 9 yo but you couldn't foresee all the betrayal you've suffered through? Is this a parallel universe?
 
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Vicky nooooo godamn gods i bet the gods made that one guy violent thats why shithappend this way they were behind it noooooo we dont want future victoria we wanna keep vicky safe
 
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I also agree that the Flashback arc really introduced a loophole as Raoul somehow managed to display some Sherlock Holmes-tier of deduction as a kid, but couldn't foresaw the betrayal from his party and the general as an adult…?

I guess the Gods really did something to him as well.

Also I kind of feel even more bad for Valentine (Victoria's mom). She tried to protect her kid even as a ghost, but wasn't able to stop making her that pact.
 

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