Fukushuu o Koinegau Saikyou Yuusha wa, Yami no Chikara de Senmetsu Musou Suru - Ch. 142

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All these chapters of context, and it's just going to end with Raoul pulling his 'super evil face' and going "So what?", bet.
 
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is this supposed to somehow make me be fine with the horrors she does later on her life?
Right? So we're just back to, so was it really Victoria or someone else's influence. Presumably the idea here is it's this gods influence, but there's always the chance the god was just leading her to where should would get anyway
I don't think we need to accept her later actions as "OK," only that she's no longer the black-and-white character she was 100 and more chapters ago.

People both within the kingdom and beings beyond the mortal world have been attempting to exert control over her life & fate since she was a child; and this god (who has kept secret who they're a god of, only that they are related to the god who governs war) has been influencing her from within for the majority of her life now.
 
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now let's hear your thoughts, victoria haters
is this a valid redemption? or just bait?
i think we have enough context to make a decision now :meguuusad:
Again, we were explicitly told that GoW would be mixing with Vicky, so the "Vicky" we're seeing now is that mixture.

This is not "true Vicky" who repeatedly rejected vengeance, and only stepped in order to save Raoul's life (and being too young to realize the price).

EDIT: Reminder, for those who insist on ignoring what the manga says...
When Vicky asks the price for saving Raoul's life...

GoW: I don't need anything material. What I want is YOU. By borrowing my power, you and I will become one in body and soul. From then on my influence will remain with you for the rest of your life. It may even shape the choice you make and the course your fate will take.
Vicki: (It's a little hard for Vicki to understand.)
Vicki: ...What does that mean?
GoW: That's something that you'll come to understand through your own experiences. [Super evil smile.]

Chapter 138 p 6

What we're seeing this chapter isn't Vicki being tempted; it isn't Vicki giving in to her own dark desires; it isn't Vicki finally reacting to the wrong that was done for her.

What we're seeing is a type of possession, where the will of the person gets mixed with the will of the possessor.
 
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She's "redeemable", but whether to forgive her or not is entirely up to Raoul (and the author). As many have said, her upbringing is the cause but none were her own fault, yet as an adult she tormented Raoul on her own will.

By this point, both way works. Redeeming her would be fine, but not doing so would still make sense too.
 
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Ok everyone hold up, now we need to see "Onii-tama"'s tragic childhood backstory before we get too judgemental. I'm sure he was a smol precious bean too once...
 
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I can’t wait to go back and re-read this after this arch is eventually over. I feel like I’m starting to get too sympathetic to Victoria. I no longer thing she is pure evil but she still did some pretty vile things.
 
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Yea, maybe she wasn't evil from the start, but that still doesn't justify the choices she made as the years went by. Victoria had MC, his family and everyone MC cherished killed just because MC wouldn't become her "pet". That wasn't a "God" forcing her.
If I'm not mistaken, didn't that crazy god of love follower whispered in her ear?
 
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So this is the meat of this part of story... how Victoria is... holy f**king shit, she got one hell of unironic (as much as I hate using this word wastefully) grooming by everything around her, especially the freaking "gods". Jebus... :fml:
not sure but I think it's same/similiar/indirect for Raoul too?
 
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SHE WASN'T BORN EVIL, SHE WAS MADE EVIL
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Yeah, my first theory became true, her initial feelings became corrupted after she made that deal with the god... so now the winged servant knows the truth, he will, of course, tell our MC, but I wonder if this god will intervene again
 

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