Fushi no Kami: Rebuilding Civilization Starts with a Village - Vol. 6 Ch. 26 - Charting One's Course

[bluenoirblues]

The way I understand it it's that the distance between the two towns is 1944 steps (if they are using day walking as explained here), so it's about 1.5km. Which makes no sense for the size of the planet, like about 200 km as circumference ? Damn, that's very very small.
If it's not steps but days of walking, that's way too big instead. So... Hopefully the author will clarify at some point.
Also... whichever it is, it just makes me laugh how the mc completely forgot days don't always have the same length, and people don't travel the same amount of time when they can reach their destination by the end, of if they need to stop before that to set up a camp and stuff.
But good for that girl to find her calling, you can get there !

There is a quantifiable mistake which is the scale of kingdom of 15,555 units and short the distance between the two dots south of Sacula at 1,944 units based on the map's vertical grid of 10 blocks or so; those towns should appear further apart

but to be fair to the story, they know it's not completely precise but it's much more accurate than their diagram map from before

 

[gadnihasj]

Using several people for walking, and making them walk for a whole day, means he could take the average distance walked to form a basis.

I also wondered about the distance between the towns for a while. But my own conclusion is that it must be decimals. Almost two days' walk. That's what makes most sense. The accuracy of the decimals is weird, though. Even when having made measuring equipment, I still wonder how they measured that distance just by reading travel reports.

 

[bluenoirblues]

I rephrased the description of their unit of distance, but I'm open to suggestions if there's a more suitable term for the name; 'sun steps/sol strides' sound less literal but that sort of conflicts w/ what Ash said about how travelers would commonly describe their journey in... (maybe an "1 hour's walk"? if there are ~12 hours from dawn to dusk, people would typically say half a day, a quarter day, all day etc.)

 

[Doenyon]

There is a quantifiable mistake which is the scale of kingdom of 15,555 units and short the distance between the two dots south of Sacula at 1,944 units based on the map's vertical grid of 10 blocks or so; those towns should appear further apart

but to be fair to the story, they know it's not completely precise but it's much more accurate than their diagram map from before

To be really really fair, the main issue with this is that it doesn't really matter which units and what distance that is, the size of the whole world can't possibly be just 150 times (approx) that of between two close by villages.
Or maybe you should have used a . instead of a , ? Like 1,944 with american way of writing is 1944, but 1.944 for them is almost 2. (also americans and europeans at least us , and . opposite of the other, europeans use the , for decimals and the . for thousands)

 

[kikix12]

I was afraid I might've made a typo but it was 15,555 units for the kingdom and 1,944 units between towns; which does not appear to be to scale especially if you look at their map w/ the total number of vertical points on the grid,

there's two dots in separate provinces south of Sacula which must be the towns they're talking about, but they should be further apart

I mean, I'm not questioning the translation or anything. I'm just saying that the actual numbers provided in the story don't seem to make sense from a logical point of view. Even if we'll assume a days walk to be a pitiful 10km, 1944 units of that is still almost half of the Earth's circumference. Meanwhile if you take it as 1 and 944/1000 of a day (to avoid problems with different ways that large units are divided around the world), which would be reasonable between towns in a medieval setting, then the 243,000 from the story would be 243 and 0/10 days. That's way too little for any world that seemingly has comparable gravity to Earth (even if you use unreal 100km a day, it's still just over half of Earth's circumference). Meanwhile seeing it as 243000 makes the world absolutely gargantuan. How gargantuan?! Over twice the circumference of the Sun. That's absolutely ridiculous.

 

[bluenoirblues]

To be really really fair, the main issue with this is that it doesn't really matter which units and what distance that is, the size of the whole world can't possibly be just 150 times (approx) that of between two close by villages.
Or maybe you should have used a . instead of a , ? Like 1,944 with american way of writing is 1944, but 1.944 for them is almost 2. (also americans and europeans at least us , and . opposite of the other, europeans use the , for decimals and the . for thousands)

I didn't know commas and periods were swapped in that way lol, but I did make sure Arthur said the total verbally, two-hundred forty-three thousand, when the JP text sort of trails off after saying 二十四万。。。

 

[bluenoirblues]

I mean, I'm not questioning the translation or anything. I'm just saying that the actual numbers provided in the story don't seem to make sense from a logical point of view. Even if we'll assume a days walk to be a pitiful 10km, 1944 units of that is still almost half of the Earth's circumference. Meanwhile if you take it as 1 and 944/1000 of a day (to avoid problems with different ways that large units are divided around the world), which would be reasonable between towns in a medieval setting, then the 243,000 from the story would be 243 and 0/10 days. That's way too little for any world that seemingly has comparable gravity to Earth (even if you use unreal 100km a day, it's still just over half of Earth's circumference). Meanwhile seeing it as 243000 makes the world absolutely gargantuan. How gargantuan?! Over twice the circumference of the Sun. That's absolutely ridiculous.

I agree, I so I rephrased the description of how they're measuring that unit of length to be "the distance covered ... for the sun to move along a portion of the globe's diameter" but I'm still stumped on the term; as "a day's walk" sounds too literal but I don't have any better ideas

 

[kaminomikan]

so... 243000/365 = 665 years? to walk around the world? That measure, 243000 is circumference or area?

 

[AscendingCanadian]

243,000 "Day's Walk" is roughly similar to the first estimate of the world's circumference by Eratosthenes: 250,000 stadia.

If we assume that a "Day's Walk" is similar to a stadia, and that it means 1 "Day's Walk" is 184.8m (Italian stadion) - then that would mean their planet is about 44,906km in circumference with the Italian stadion, if we reduce that by 15% (based on the error when using the Italian stadia to measure the Earth's circumference) we get 38,170.44km - if we use the Olympic stade we get 42,365.2km, reducing by 10% (as with the Olympic stade when measuring the Earth's circumference) we get 38,678.69km.

Or in summary - their planet is marginally smaller than the Earth. Not significantly enough to change how gravity feels, but enough to make a noticeable difference when measuring its circumference.

 

[Beregorn]

243,000 "Day's Walk" is roughly similar to the first estimate of the world's circumference by Eratosthenes: 250,000 stadia.

If we assume that a "Day's Walk" is similar to a stadia, and that it means 1 "Day's Walk" is 184.8m (Italian stadion) - then that would mean their planet is about 44,906km in circumference with the Italian stadion, if we reduce that by 15% (based on the error when using the Italian stadia to measure the Earth's circumference) we get 38,170.44km - if we use the Olympic stade we get 42,365.2km, reducing by 10% (as with the Olympic stade when measuring the Earth's circumference) we get 38,678.69km.

Or in summary - their planet is marginally smaller than the Earth. Not significantly enough to change how gravity feels, but enough to make a noticeable difference when measuring its circumference.

the problem is the ratios between the given distances: if their earth has the same size of ours, the two "close" villages are almost 320km apart and their map is as big as india, if the two villages are separate by almost two days of walk, the world is way too tiny, if the "day's walk" are actual days of walk it would take more than 5 years to walk from one village to the other, and 42 years to cross their mapped area...

 

[captain_crunch]

Why did the artist use maps of Earth in MCs inner thoughts, a few times so far? Either it was just artist's choice and doesn't mean anything, or MC lived on Earth in a previous life, or the story takes place on Earth 🤔