Futago Matomete "Kanojo" ni Shinai? - Vol. 3 Ch. 11

[Septazia]

super weak direction with the childhood friend and the new girl gives tropey vibes too. not a fan of where it's going but love the premise enough to stick with it.

It might not be the height of drama or the most original take, but just by virtue of having them all communicate open, honestly and be actually comfortable together puts it in a higher tier than most Romcoms.

For example in "my boyish girlfriend is too cute" the couple has been together for a year, is at chapter 28 and they can't even hug, infact when the guy tried he got punched.
Not to mention the various Romcoms getting Anime adaptation despite the Rom being dead in the water, like:

• Alya Sometimes Hides Her Feelings in Russian (too busy with student council elections, MC seems to have convinced himself that she doesn't actually like him.
• medaka kuroiwa is impervious to my charm (a fake harem where the protagonist is made clear from the start, haven't checked in a couple of months but main girl confessed then said it was a joke, over a 100 chapters)
• Hajimete no Gal, despite starting with a girlfriend from the start it devolved into an harem, the author had to use the supernatural to divide the couple, 200 chapters, 10 years and he still finds new ways to put things between them
• 
  
• Sono Bisque Doll wa Koi wo Suru, 115 chapters, 7 years, finished, the premise was supposed to be about a COUPLE that affirms each other's hobby, it ended being a shoujo Manga with a lot of fakeout eroticism and a guy who stopped being uncomfortable around the girl in the EXTRAs of the last volume
• Senpai ga Uzai Kouhai no Hanashi, 8 years, over 200 chapters (even if they are small), oblivious guy, 2 incompatible people, then they get together at the last moment inbetween an unseen timeskip
• Ao no Hako, one of the couple has the guy straight up tell the girl that he cant' bear to see her (even alone) in a bikini that is too much for him, took 1 year of being together to kiss, the girl is slightly older and wants to do more but he keeps blocking her, realistically she would have (and should have) left him.
• The Café Terrace and Its Goddesses, another loveless harem, the MC is so robotic and inoffensive that the girls have bathed with him, naked gun, is ending in 7 chapters, will likely go like 5Toubon, 1 chapter of maybe dating, the guy pretending his love was very strong and people will call it a Romance.

Honorary mention to the other Throuple Manga.

• Otoko Girai na Bijin Shimai wo Namae mo Tsugezu ni Tasuketara Ittai Dounaru? Started strong I think, I was loving it, another "throuple" Romcom, but the Romcom somewhat stopped after chapter 15, is like the author is going back and forth between places not knowing what to do and the relationship hasnt' moved in 9 out of 24 chapters. The MC is stonewalling the girls for no reason there is no current arc going on, nothing is standing between them.

 

[98Mikoto]

So he never got confirmation if it was a dare or she's been honest back then? And the twins don't question that either? Ok...

They show a foot peeking out from around the corner, and Yuzuki isn't blushing or happy looking when she confesses.

So either it was a dare, or it was her friends peeping and he misunderstood. The latter seems less likely because they establish other girls don't like him. Guess we'll see later.

 

[Friendly-Sentence710]

medaka kuroiwa is impervious to my charm

God the decline on that one was awful. I'm sort of glad it simupubbed on one of the garbage platforms so I'm not even tempted to hate read.

So either it was a dare, or it was her friends peeping and he misunderstood. The latter seems less likely because they establish other girls don't like him. Guess we'll see later.

Her feelings might have been legitimate but she was only expressing them due to the punishment game. I think the moral there was she was too weak willed to be with a "sticking up nail".

 

[Me]

Young man, you don't seem to understand how nails and hammers work.

 

[UdenEmpati]

Her feelings might have been legitimate but she was only expressing them due to the punishment game. I think the moral there was she was too weak willed to be with a "sticking up nail".

That's kind of what I think as well, yeah.
I cannot think of another reason to depict the foot scooting back around the corner like that, because it fully insinuates that someone else was present, and the rest of the scene's context would require a string of nonsensical coincidences to paint it as anything but a punishment game meant to mock the MC.

Unfortunately for them both, Yuzuki absolutely liked/likes him, but she feared being bullied more, and spent too long cowing before his bullies and just going along with their mocking to save herself - and now it's way too late.

At best, I think he can forgive her like he effectively states here in this chapter, but he owes her nothing beyond that. The existence of the letter pretty much means she'll factor into the narrative again in the future (at least I assume he'll give it to her at some point), but hopefully the MC won't give her the time of day beyond maybe getting closure over what all went down in middle school.

 

[Darkshade13]

It will be missed

Is it toast? Or did their webmaster just screw up? Because I'm not getting a 404 or other kind of common error for a taken-down site. Instead my antivirus is just blocking it over invalid certificates, which is sometimes just a matter of someone flipping a switch or not paying a bill on time or something. I don't remember ever getting that because a site was shut down unless some squatter popped up immediately after and set up something shifty to try and trap people who were unaware.

There were only a couple of series that I ended up reading over there so I'm not super put out, but it's kinda sad if our options lessen.

 

[SigmaMale5656]

This is how I find out bro…

RIP Comick

😔

 

[SigmaMale5656]

Is it toast? Or did their webmaster just screw up? Because I'm not getting a 404 or other kind of common error for a taken-down site. Instead my antivirus is just blocking it over invalid certificates, which is sometimes just a matter of someone flipping a switch or not paying a bill on time or something. I don't remember ever getting that because a site was shut down unless some squatter popped up immediately after and set up something shifty to try and trap people who were unaware.

There were only a couple of series that I ended up reading over there so I'm not super put out, but it's kinda sad if our options lessen.

It’s completely toast, with plans to never be put back up.

 

[Darkshade13]

It’s completely toast, with plans to never be put back up.

I have a feeling the clock is ticking on Mangadex and is probably a lot closer to zero than we'd like to think.

 

[BlackElite]

That really does look like a punishment game that forced something not entirely insincere.

Indeed, her expression is something that should not be in a confession, but there might be another reason... Like, one last chance to prove that he still has emotions... Or maybe it's indeed a punishment game...

 

[kamiyathunder]

A "tch" at the end?
Instant hate.

 

[PraetorDragoon]

Thanks for the translation.

 

[ItsThatBriGuy]

Yep, this solidifies the whole “issue” as a miscommunication between our MC and Yuzuki.

I do wonder if at the very least they’ll clear things up between them where Yuzuki will tell him her feelings were real and it wasn’t a punishment game for her. At least he should know that she wasn’t being malicious and meant it. Doesn’t mean anything should come of it except MAYBE them being on friendly terms again.

V3 makes that clear without technically saying so.

 

[ItsThatBriGuy]

It might not be the height of drama or the most original take, but just by virtue of having them all communicate open, honestly and be actually comfortable together puts it in a higher tier than most Romcoms.

For example in "my boyish girlfriend is too cute" the couple has been together for a year, is at chapter 28 and they can't even hug, infact when the guy tried he got punched.
Not to mention the various Romcoms getting Anime adaptation despite the Rom being dead in the water, like:

• Alya Sometimes Hides Her Feelings in Russian (too busy with student council elections, MC seems to have convinced himself that she doesn't actually like him.
• medaka kuroiwa is impervious to my charm (a fake harem where the protagonist is made clear from the start, haven't checked in a couple of months but main girl confessed then said it was a joke, over a 100 chapters)
• Hajimete no Gal, despite starting with a girlfriend from the start it devolved into an harem, the author had to use the supernatural to divide the couple, 200 chapters, 10 years and he still finds new ways to put things between them
• 
  
• Sono Bisque Doll wa Koi wo Suru, 115 chapters, 7 years, finished, the premise was supposed to be about a COUPLE that affirms each other's hobby, it ended being a shoujo Manga with a lot of fakeout eroticism and a guy who stopped being uncomfortable around the girl in the EXTRAs of the last volume
• Senpai ga Uzai Kouhai no Hanashi, 8 years, over 200 chapters (even if they are small), oblivious guy, 2 incompatible people, then they get together at the last moment inbetween an unseen timeskip
• Ao no Hako, one of the couple has the guy straight up tell the girl that he cant' bear to see her (even alone) in a bikini that is too much for him, took 1 year of being together to kiss, the girl is slightly older and wants to do more but he keeps blocking her, realistically she would have (and should have) left him.
• The Café Terrace and Its Goddesses, another loveless harem, the MC is so robotic and inoffensive that the girls have bathed with him, naked gun, is ending in 7 chapters, will likely go like 5Toubon, 1 chapter of maybe dating, the guy pretending his love was very strong and people will call it a Romance.

Honorary mention to the other Throuple Manga.

• Otoko Girai na Bijin Shimai wo Namae mo Tsugezu ni Tasuketara Ittai Dounaru? Started strong I think, I was loving it, another "throuple" Romcom, but the Romcom somewhat stopped after chapter 15, is like the author is going back and forth between places not knowing what to do and the relationship hasnt' moved in 9 out of 24 chapters. The MC is stonewalling the girls for no reason there is no current arc going on, nothing is standing between them.

Alya: Masachika is fully aware in the material from the LN volume after the one the manga is currently adapting that her romantic and physical attraction to him is quite real. He's reluctant to respond because of his explicitly-stated psychological issues as well as his still-unresolved feelings for Maria. StuCo election is the series' main setting, not a trope.

Senpai: Plenty of canon doujin set after the main series fix the serialization's issues.

Cafe Terrace: Hayato made it clear from day one that he was focused on saving his grandmother's legacy; both school and romance were on-hold until he either succeeded or failed. That's again a setting, not a trope.

Otoko Girai: can't argue the points, only want to mention the issues you're upset with weren't present in the pre-commercial version of the story.

 

[Septazia]

Alya: Masachika is fully aware in the material from the LN volume after the one the manga is currently adapting that her romantic and physical attraction to him is quite real. He's reluctant to respond because of his explicitly-stated psychological issues as well as his still-unresolved feelings for Maria. StuCo election is the series' main setting, not a trope.

Senpai: Plenty of canon doujin set after the main series fix the serialization's issues.

Cafe Terrace: Hayato made it clear from day one that he was focused on saving his grandmother's legacy; both school and romance were on-hold until he either succeeded or failed. That's again a setting, not a trope.

Otoko Girai: can't argue the points, only want to mention the issues you're upset with weren't present in the pre-commercial version of the story.

1) Alya: I don't like the election thing because they put too much time and importance over it, it makes them look like elitist-out-of-touch kids and is just something we see way too much is basically this

2) The problem is the in-between we skipped, how the relationship formed was missing in the canon story, otherwise this is like defending Bungie's Destiny story saying that is there you just have to go to the website to read it, it is one thing to have canon doujins set AFTER but people are reading it for the romance and if you cut how the actual relationship develope then you have no romance, I get (even if I don't like it) for something like Vegeta and Bulma relationship because those are secondary characters in a story where romance is a tiny unimportant part of it, but not here.

3) So you are saying that justifies a Cafe Terrace, that is sold as a Romcom

「海辺のカフェに集う五人の女神と一人の青年。ここから始まる、笑いと恋の物語！」 “Five goddesses gather at a seaside café with one young man. From here begins a story of laughter and love!”

To not have actual romance for over 200 chapters?
Sure if you want to act like a lawyer and win on a technicality you can say that there was love.
It sounds like the setting has as* much love as those age-gap stories that are an excuse for the writer to not have any actual romance and keep it for the last chapter that happens after a timeskip.

4) I read most of the WN (I am just missing the last 10 or so chapters which are considered Extras) haven't read the LN, I like the additions the Manga has, although I don't know from which writer exactly they came, my problem is that it lost its momentum.

 

[UdenEmpati]

well 'liked' him would make no sense because

1) She herself distanced herself with him
2) She seems to be getting along too well with one of the main guys who harassed him

she was shown in multiple flashbacks to have been effectively spineless, and because the ML was being ostracized by all his peers, if she stuck by his side she would be mocked/bullied by association.

She feared that most of all, and so she cowed before the bullies, and looked the other way or participated in the collective abuse toward the ML because otherwise she'd also be targeted.
For his part, the ML understood this and that's why he still doesn't hold a grudge against her to this day.
But even her behavior alongside the asshole who went to their middle school is her just being meek and cowing before him/going along with him out of fear of persecution, than it is her outright endorsing his behavior toward the ML (and the FL who was initially on that committee for the festival where they all meet/re-meet).

So I think she very much has always liked the ML. She just feared being bullied more, and made the decision that saw him ultimately leave her behind to her ongoing misery and suffering.

I forgot but that’s his ex friend who didn’t support him right?

Flex on them by holding both girls now

Yep, she's the friend he'd made back in childhood, who was close by him and gave him that "hero" concept that he aspired toward (because he was so different from everyone around him, even then) - until middle school, when his differences made him a target for mockery/bullying, and she abandoned him because she was too afraid of also being targeted/ostracized by the rest of their peers.

And yes, she apparently regrets it to this day, but remains unable to actually grow a spine, it would seem - and he holds no grudge, but has his twin GFs now, to boot, so.

 

[aoee]

that weak willed girl, imagine they really went out after that confession but she still remains to be a weak willed, he'll only be presented with a bad future with her, possibly an NTR like situation with a douchbag guy around her

 

[newhatsdonotfit]

Ummm.... Yuzuki?! Is this another one of those story arcs where misunderstandings drives plot?

 

[OmegaStone]

this is for those who asked for a complete chapter

 

[Freestyle]

she was shown in multiple flashbacks to have been effectively spineless, and because the ML was being ostracized by all his peers, if she stuck by his side she would be mocked/bullied by association.

She feared that most of all, and so she cowed before the bullies, and looked the other way or participated in the collective abuse toward the ML because otherwise she'd also be targeted.
For his part, the ML understood this and that's why he still doesn't hold a grudge against her to this day.
But even her behavior alongside the asshole who went to their middle school is her just being meek and cowing before him/going along with him out of fear of persecution, than it is her outright endorsing his behavior toward the ML (and the FL who was initially on that committee for the festival where they all meet/re-meet).

So I think she very much has always liked the ML. She just feared being bullied more, and made the decision that saw him ultimately leave her behind to her ongoing misery and suffering.

Fair enough but I feel like if you truly like someone you'd more likely stick by them or atleast try to make an effort somewhere to be with them, as you said she is still hesitating to this day lol.

I dont think MC has any noble reason to not hold a grudge though, since he is shown to not have much emotions he probably never placed much expectations onto her and quickly moved on basically.