Genjitsushugi Yuusha no Oukoku Saikenki - Vol. 10 Ch. 52 - Among the Snow (2)

[MangaDex]

 

[feha]

I thought this back in the novel, and I still think this here: The whole "make mc a king, then suddenly avoid him like the plague, while conspiring to make his best ally a pariah to the state for some cheap shot at purging nobles I already know the name of" thing feels utterly stupid. With all that future knowledge he could have easily handled things differently enough to handle things adequately, and even if he makes mc king for his own conscience (what? why? mc clearly doesn't want to be king and he should have known that) he could have offered his utmost support from the get-go to have things end much differently and better. For starters, telling mc about everything from the start would have made a lot of sense.

 

[Helel]

Nice, this part of the novel was really cool to read.

 

[athros]

FUCKING FINALLY
well, the part of 'finally fucking' should be not far from this point of the story, but I doubt it'll get depicted in the manga.

 

[Zerosteel45]

And with this we are finally at the end of season 2 of the anime.

 

[amaniza2010]

Fuckin Finally

 

[ZeroDelta]

I thought this back in the novel, and I still think this here: The whole "make mc a king, then suddenly avoid him like the plague, while conspiring to make his best ally a pariah to the state for some cheap shot at purging nobles I already know the name of" thing feels utterly stupid. With all that future knowledge he could have easily handled things differently enough to handle things adequately, and even if he makes mc king for his own conscience (what? why? mc clearly doesn't want to be king and he should have known that) he could have offered his utmost support from the get-go to have things end much differently and better. For starters, telling mc about everything from the start would have made a lot of sense.

Knowing what would happen in the future doesn't guarantee that things will happen exactly the same. Since you have the knowledge, it could affect how you react to events that lead to the previous future which would then change the future in this current timeline.

 

[ciera]

thanks

 

[HDMI1]

I thought this back in the novel, and I still think this here: The whole "make mc a king, then suddenly avoid him like the plague, while conspiring to make his best ally a pariah to the state for some cheap shot at purging nobles I already know the name of" thing feels utterly stupid. With all that future knowledge he could have easily handled things differently enough to handle things adequately, and even if he makes mc king for his own conscience (what? why? mc clearly doesn't want to be king and he should have known that) he could have offered his utmost support from the get-go to have things end much differently and better. For starters, telling mc about everything from the start would have made a lot of sense.

Dude was still under PTSD from the previous timeline's memories pouring into him. Do you think he could have quickly and rationally made the necessary changes while staring at the traitors that murdered his family and burned down the kingdon?

Plus any immediate change in policy or pre-punishment of the traitor nobles would have been seen as the current (former) King losing his mind or becoming a Tyrant, which would have caused the 3 Dukes to stop him and the traitors to start the rebellion immediately.

This all only worked because the MC was there: the noble's focus shifted to him, meaning that the former King/Queen and George could start working on their plan in the background, and since the nobles couldn't attack King MC immediately he was able to put out his reforms, which prevented the timeline from any major variations that would have screwed up their plans based on the past events.

 

[R0dr1g0-Shin]

Even as i read the novel i also thought: The MC might have been summoned as the Hero, but the true MVP that saved everyone was the Queen with her powers to send memories to the past.

 

[Jachinz]

Memory time travel...
REALLY NOW!?

 

[Krister]

The End.

 

[HDMI1]

Memory time travel...
REALLY NOW!?

You're just upset that it wasn't the memories of the previous life of the MC who was killed in the war and reincarnated on Earth only to be Isekai'd back to his previous world just before the war that ended his past life started.

 

[Bel-Shug]

This time we don't need microwave huh

 

[Mapax]

I thought this back in the novel, and I still think this here: The whole "make mc a king, then suddenly avoid him like the plague, while conspiring to make his best ally a pariah to the state for some cheap shot at purging nobles I already know the name of" thing feels utterly stupid. With all that future knowledge he could have easily handled things differently enough to handle things adequately, and even if he makes mc king for his own conscience (what? why? mc clearly doesn't want to be king and he should have known that) he could have offered his utmost support from the get-go to have things end much differently and better. For starters, telling mc about everything from the start would have made a lot of sense.

Remember, this is something of an average king, he may be wise, but he lacks the intellect to make his kingdom great in the first place.

 

[Robbini]

I thought this back in the novel, and I still think this here: The whole "make mc a king, then suddenly avoid him like the plague, while conspiring to make his best ally a pariah to the state for some cheap shot at purging nobles I already know the name of" thing feels utterly stupid. With all that future knowledge he could have easily handled things differently enough to handle things adequately, and even if he makes mc king for his own conscience (what? why? mc clearly doesn't want to be king and he should have known that) he could have offered his utmost support from the get-go to have things end much differently and better. For starters, telling mc about everything from the start would have made a lot of sense.

Let's say he instantly decided to purge all of the traitorous nobles.
First, how ? Would he invite them all to the capital and have a Hongmen-style banquet (ie killing everyone ) ?
Tyrant, 3 dukes would try to depose him or the noble heirs would revolt or Amidonia would come in or all and more at the same time.

Send the troops to defeat all of them ?
Tyrant, but also starting a civil war in dire situation already and Amidonia would invade and maybe more.

Do them one by one ?
Tyrant, still need reasons to do it and they might get wise / heirs might pick up the habit, and he still wouldn't have that much time.


Can you think of one way to legitimately , stably and effectively remove as many nobles as this involved (never an exact number, but the fact that all but 2 of the council of high nobles or whatever he got for the trial jury were the fencesitters, which meant atleast partially neutral... ) without anything other than Treason, Rebellion or Glorious death in combat (that one's impossible, none of them seemed to be able or want to fight in the rebellion and even then all of them are impossible)

Crushing actual rebellions is the single most effective , legal & stable way to really get rid of various people if the evidence is there.

Also, you're forgetting that he was already convinced by them last time. Sure, the transfer memory would affect him, but he might still be convinced to go easy on them if he tried something and they could just start a new civil war at one time or another.

And if he had told the MC about the traitors, the MC might've actually made it the single focus from the start which would've doomed the whole restoration, not to mention whether he would've believed it like 'We just summoned you here, our past memories of this say these people are traitors and need to be purged, you'll love and treasure our daughter and avoid war', that would really freak someone out.

 

[Mapax]

Memory time travel...
REALLY NOW!?

Well, not now, something of the sort was already explained to us readers many chapters ago.

 

[Jachinz]

You're just upset that it wasn't the memories of the previous life of the MC who was killed in the war and reincarnated on Earth only to be Isekai'd back to his previous world just before the war that ended his past life started.

Did I say something about being upset?? The heck? Can't I be shocked?

 

[optiso]

I feel like the author was just annoyed at people pointing out the plot holes and decided to do this as a retcon.

 

[WhimsiCat]

I thought this back in the novel, and I still think this here: The whole "make mc a king, then suddenly avoid him like the plague, while conspiring to make his best ally a pariah to the state for some cheap shot at purging nobles I already know the name of" thing feels utterly stupid. With all that future knowledge he could have easily handled things differently enough to handle things adequately, and even if he makes mc king for his own conscience (what? why? mc clearly doesn't want to be king and he should have known that) he could have offered his utmost support from the get-go to have things end much differently and better. For starters, telling mc about everything from the start would have made a lot of sense.

The answer is in the very first few pages: He's just a 'normal' king. He's not good enough to handle these.

The conclusion he arrive with the future memory is simply: Give Souma the king position so he have the full authority to reform.

Georg acting as a trap for the corrupted noble wasn't the king's idea, it was Georg choosing to do so after hearing about the future.

As for telling Souma: Then Souma wouldn't grow as a person, not to mention it'd make it seem like the king is still in control from the shadow (hence his comment about the king/queen leaving for real after this)
Sure it'll make handling the known upcoming crisis easier, but it'd leave Souma less prepared to handle anything beyond that point (for example, would all the people he recruited this time be here if Souma just follow the king's ideas? Since they didn't exist in the other time line)