Genjitsushugi Yuusha no Oukoku Saikenki - Vol. 10 Ch. 52 - Among the Snow (2)

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A little summary/spoiler of the other world event:




Queen Elishia get her memories back during her teen. Feed up that she always die while unhappy, decide to renounce her claim to the throne and marry a man who always try to protect her in every lives she had, Albert the average king. They live at Albert mansion and Elishia finally have a child due to stress free live she have with Albert.

Few years later all the throne heirs manage to kill each other and Elishia is the only 1 that can claim the throne. She reject it but been remind that some extremist will come for her family. She have no choice to take it but want Albert be the king as a mediocre king give no one a chance to dethrone him (he is neither bad or good but enough to bring stability that the country really need right then).

Fast forward to the time she use her magic and waiting her demise with Albert. She said that even if she rewind time, she will still choose this ending together with Albert and assure him that with Liscia beside Souma, Souma will be succeed to change their fate.

After that, they hear a beast landing on castle and see Souma and Liscia running toward them. They are here to save them with a dragon that Souma have. After that they been inform that the 2 duke actually under Souma, and people that Souma met in 2nd world already met him in 1st world after Randel fell. Their army where ready to counter attack at Duchess Walter city.

The queen where delight that her choice to marry her love one is the right one for the country after all.
Ngl, seeing the panel where the King sends his "final message" to his past self as he and the Queen are gonna be developed in flames made me feel emotional as an ending to them. However, reading this washed all away and made me happy. So thank you for turning this sad feeling to a happy one.
 
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I thought this back in the novel, and I still think this here: The whole "make mc a king, then suddenly avoid him like the plague, while conspiring to make his best ally a pariah to the state for some cheap shot at purging nobles I already know the name of" thing feels utterly stupid. With all that future knowledge he could have easily handled things differently enough to handle things adequately, and even if he makes mc king for his own conscience (what? why? mc clearly doesn't want to be king and he should have known that) he could have offered his utmost support from the get-go to have things end much differently and better. For starters, telling mc about everything from the start would have made a lot of sense.
MC needed to be king. The anime makes it clear that the Prime Minister doesn’t have the authority to use the broadcast device. He would’ve had to go and get permission every single time. And, despite its massive knock-on effects, using the device is pretty minor compared to the really crazy shit he had to repeatedly pull, like hiring commoners or founding a new city.

If he’s got to go and get permission every time, not only does he get slowed down, but he’s limited to only trying the things he thinks can get approved. He won’t go truly out of the box, which is what was required.

And if the king is just a rubber stamp who only listens to his Prime Minister and always says yes, he’s no king at all. At that point you’ve ceded all authority to the MC anyway, might as well put him on the throne so he can get a PM of his own to rely on and use himself to make political marriages, both of which ended up being major factors in his success.
 
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I thought this back in the novel, and I still think this here: The whole "make mc a king, then suddenly avoid him like the plague, while conspiring to make his best ally a pariah to the state for some cheap shot at purging nobles I already know the name of" thing feels utterly stupid. With all that future knowledge he could have easily handled things differently enough to handle things adequately, and even if he makes mc king for his own conscience (what? why? mc clearly doesn't want to be king and he should have known that) he could have offered his utmost support from the get-go to have things end much differently and better. For starters, telling mc about everything from the start would have made a lot of sense.
WhimsiCat already answered this pretty well, but I'll add my own bit, too: He had been barraged by all those memories right in the middle of the entire speech, and did the one thing he could think of to bind the one man who could possibly fix everything to the kingdom, with the power to actually fix everything. And then stepped back to observe and not screw up anything because of butterfly effect, while being ready to pass down that knowledge to a past him through his wife's magic, once again, if necessary.
 
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This concluded the anime version (and first 3 volumes of the novel) and for me this is the best arc for Genjitsu Shugi Yuusha. Even I am re-reading these first 3 volumes of the novel because how good the story is.

The Queen really Doctor Strange'd her way into giving Iron Man MC the one in 14,000,605 chance at saving the world Elfrieden
Her magic makes her capable for creating new universe :pacman:
 
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Seeing all the people trying to excuse King's "plan" with varying degrees of twisted logic is pretty amusing.
 
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So many comments, and not one pointing out the mistake in the labels in the military schematic/map - those obviously got switched up, since it's the nobles who did an attack of opportunity.
 
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I thought this back in the novel, and I still think this here: The whole "make mc a king, then suddenly avoid him like the plague, while conspiring to make his best ally a pariah to the state for some cheap shot at purging nobles I already know the name of" thing feels utterly stupid. With all that future knowledge he could have easily handled things differently enough to handle things adequately, and even if he makes mc king for his own conscience (what? why? mc clearly doesn't want to be king and he should have known that) he could have offered his utmost support from the get-go to have things end much differently and better. For starters, telling mc about everything from the start would have made a lot of sense.
everything turned out for the best if even better than your idea. seriously, it all went down based on what hes learned in his world and with the help of his allies, it just seems like it was the best course of action, if he had gotten the helping hand u can be damn sure he would not of been as rash but necessarily brutal to weed out the vipers based on his learnings. he would NOT have had the same mindset. the nation would not be as developed. it would of been worse with the idea you are going with. the author made the best move.
 
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everything turned out for the best if even better than your idea. seriously, it all went down based on what hes learned in his world and with the help of his allies, it just seems like it was the best course of action, if he had gotten the helping hand u can be damn sure he would not of been as rash but necessarily brutal to weed out the vipers based on his learnings. he would NOT have had the same mindset. the nation would not be as developed. it would of been worse with the idea you are going with. the author made the best move.
king* not author, as author isn't inside the story.
And do tell me how the king knew things would turn out exactly this way, and that any other method wouldn't

ps: because if we go by authors choices, then per definition their choices are obviously going to be "correct" lol. They don't decide on merely the actions, but also the reactions and so on.
 
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king* not author, as author isn't inside the story.
And do tell me how the king knew things would turn out exactly this way, and that any other method wouldn't

ps: because if we go by authors choices, then per definition their choices are obviously going to be "correct" lol. They don't decide on merely the actions, but also the reactions and so on.
i say author since hes the one who wrote the story, you're pretty much against the whole plot of it.
 
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king* not author, as author isn't inside the story.
And do tell me how the king knew things would turn out exactly this way, and that any other method wouldn't

ps: because if we go by authors choices, then per definition their choices are obviously going to be "correct" lol. They don't decide on merely the actions, but also the reactions and so on.
you're just to focused on the if of your hypothesis and this current circumstance is better. in fact if the other circumstance hadnt occured the current situation would not of existed. it all turned out for the best. good day.
 
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ngl, I still fucking hate this manga for the whole enslaving the dragon girl and dad while giving the daughter an order to kill him if he turns bad rather than the dad. That and the whole can’t see their family thing.

Edit: double checked that last part because i decided to my memory is iffy, it seems only the father was the case. Regardless, I still fucking hate that they were both enslaved. Equally shitty since he asked carla to kill him if he goes bad which in turn kills her which means his wife loses her husband and her best friend. Rather than the dad who already can’t see his fucking family.

Edit2: just to add, why is it even necessary for them to still be enslaved? Last I checked old lion boy got off with killing himself and dying his fur. Furthermore, he got his fucking reputation restored according to the wiki even if he still is living as someone else. Not only that, but if anyone should be given carla’s order it’s george. The fact that to my understanding they are still slaves irks me to no end. Anyway this is just venting. I know it’s ultimately pointless because the order will never come true and the alternative is that they would have been executed. I just have utter disdain for what feels entirely unnecessary to maintain as a punishment until they die.
 
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Not gonna lie, Prime Minister Souma looks really good. He got that drip that makes him look more strict
 
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so we can safely assume that this moment in time where the previous king and queen said everything to mc is the time of their death... i guess?
 
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Georg being the senpai of MC
All the alternatives

Not gonna lie, this chap is kino af

Tears are rolling down my eye
 
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Finally, he found a spine for the romance department of this story. No more excuses, just an honest-to-goodness marriage proposal and a good ol' romantic kiss for the girl he loves (across timelines, even(!); I assume the other harem girls were not love interests in the other timelines). Actually good stuff.
 

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