Gourmet Gaming - Vol. 1 Ch. 14

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TAKE THAT YOU FILTHY PKer!! NO ONE TOUCHES MAH CAKE!!!!

Edit: Not a spoiler, just inferring based on MC ‘recognizing’ the spear from somewhere and the guy constantly letting attacks ‘accidentally’ slip by him that target the back line.
 
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@nbhstcqbvvpmacjrmv the mage complaining to Roy doesn’t imply Min Hyuk not helping after having multiple opportunities but instead implies the opposite. If the mage wasn’t mad at him means that he’s been doing his job properly, if Min Hyuk didn’t, the mage would be mad at him. It was shown only once because they’d just be showing the same scene twice which is just extra work for the artist.

And I’m sorry I have a habit of switching from 3rd person and 2nd person (they -> you, vice versa) so what I meant was Roy shouldn’t have taken it personally. I really really promise I didn’t mean it for you or maybe kinda like its, if you were Roy kinda thing, at least in my mind, that’s what I was thinking.

Fine, I fully did defend the MC without saying he was disrespectful too but if we were scaling who was more of an jerk in the entire encounter, it would be Roy. If they don’t explicitly say stuff like help me deal with enemies but just be careful and hang back most of the time but that’s what you expect, you can’t just go off on people and disrespect them when they unknowingly disrespect you which just reveals what kind of person he is yeah?

I also don’t like how you need to be completely focused on something. People could fidget and eat because of attention problems. Or they’re hungry. But still, does it take away from Roy if MC doesn’t seem to have his head all there since he’s also focusing on the food? I don’t feel like it does. The only time that it probably mattered was that last part before he slapped the castella out of MC’s hands because he didn’t hear him which I still don’t think is MC’s fault since he was talking to the mage and then suddenly switched to talking to Min Hyuk, thinking that he should have been paying attention. It could be fair since this is right after combat and he’s the leader but since he didn’t specifically call out to Min Hyuk before saying you should stop eating bread, he shouldn’t have gotten angry for him not hearing.

When I look at Roy’s perspective, assuming he may not be a PKer, I see a guy acting cool and saying “let me handle everything” but in his mind still expect them to help him cause social conventions say they should right? When the going gets tough, Roy sees a guy acting as if he isn’t part of this and I think he’d think, “why the heck isn’t he helping, can’t he see we’re having a hard time and he’s just there eating??” And then the mage calls him out and he decides to say, “he’s distracting me with his eating” and stuff like that and he proceeds to vent his anger at being unable to look cool and this guy who doesn’t seem to care.

Basically, when I imagine Roy’s perspective, I imagine a guy who got angry for having expectations he never explicitly mentioned to anyone else.

Also, if the food was like in this VRMMO, where you can see, smell, feel and taste it, how would it feel any less like in real life? It’s basically the food itself, except for the fact that it doesn’t sustain my body irl. In that fact, you could consider it less important, but when someone is just enjoying food and not because they’re hungry, then that’s the exact same thing then. It’s like slapping someone’s dessert off their spoon and saying it’s not as important as the meal before it because it doesn’t really matter to your survival whether you ate it or not.

Now for the important part, to be diagnosed with a mental illness, usually they refer to the DSM to see if you hit or get more than a specific number of marks because as we all acknowledge, not everyone experiences mental disorders the same way.

I copy pasted this off the internet but its not like someone would lie about the DSM right?

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5) includes the following diagnostic criteria for bulimia nervosa:

Recurrent episodes of binge eating. An episode of binge eating is characterized by both of the following:
Eating, in a discrete period of time (e.g., within a two hour period), an amount of food that is definitely larger than what most people would eat during a similar period of time and under similar circumstances.
Lack of control over eating during the episode (e.g., a feeling that you cannot stop eating, or control what or how much you are eating).
Recurrent inappropriate compensatory behavior to prevent weight gain, such as self-induced vomiting, misuse of laxatives, diuretics, or other medications, fasting, or excessive exercise.
The binge eating and inappropriate compensatory behaviors both occur, on average, at least once a week for three months.
Self-evaluation is unduly influenced by body shape and weight.
Binging or purging does not occur exclusively during episodes of behavior that would be common in those with anorexia nervosa.

He’s been shown to eat excessively at periods of time, since he isn’t eating 24/7 and he doesn’t seem to have any control with the amount he eats as shown with the HUGE amounts of tomatoes he eats though he himself is embarrassed at the amount. He’s been shown to swing a sword for two hours just so he could eat again which could be his way of compensating and is shown to “work off” what he’s eaten by exercising irl everytime which is a valid way of a person with bulimia to try and compensate.

In https://www.eatingdisorderhope.com/information/bulimia it said:

Methods of purging include forced vomiting, excessive use of laxatives or diuretics, and extreme or prolonged periods of exercising.
Often, in these binge/purge episodes, a woman or man suffering from this disorder will experience a loss of control and engage in frantic efforts to undo these feelings.

Though MC lacks the suffering that feels like it should have been part of the binging process, we can’t say for sure if everybody actually does. Even the article only said “often”.

Exercising is also a one of a major type compensatory actions of bulimia called the non-purging type (also from eatingdisorderhope.com)

Non-Purging type – In this form the individual will use other inappropriate methods of compensation for binge episodes, such as excessive exercising or fasting. In these cases, the typical forms of purging, such as self-induced vomiting, are not regularly utilized.

The only problems I see is his love for food, excessive hunger and his lack of self hate due to body issues. The lack of self hate due to body issues is I think fair seeing how he has been going through medical care (i don’t remember therapy but I’d assume he also has that) and also has the absolute, most loving support system I have seen. Nevertheless, he still has body issues since he feels like he’d have been perfect had he not been unable to control his food intake and not being able to lose all the weight he’s gained even through all the effort he’s been through.

I really don’t know about the excessive hunger but I did say he might have other problems aside from bulimia that might be causing it.

Sure, of course the author just chose a disorder and slapped it onto the MC. I’m just saying that he doesn’t appear to be suffering from bulimia but he hits a lot of points in the bulimia checklist. Am I saying the depiction is perfect? No, and it could be misleading if you think of this as a good example of bulimia instead of maybe reading some actual life stories from people suffering from it just like how the movie Split kinda gave people the idea that dissociative identity disorder might make you have a monster inside you. All I’m saying is that mental disorders don’t just fit in a frame and although this doesn’t hit the nail on the head exactly, he gave some of the more uncommonly portrayed but valid experiences that people with bulimia have. I’m just saying, it’s not Split level bad lololol.

PS I just like being angry at story stuff and arguing sht. It’s one of my few vents in life. Tell me if I go too far :p
 
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damn yall fuckin discoursing here thats a whole fucking essay per comment im actually amazed

edit: ok read thru not even half of it. not to simp for min hyuk but he literally did nothing wrong. the party leader told him hed carry him and min hyuk even defends the mage so that counts as minimal effort (which is what they expected of him in the first place)

legit the reason spear guy gives on why he dislikes mc is bc of him eating like bro. deal with it. yta here.
 
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I'll try to keep this as short as possible considering how much both of us have typed. I did read through everything.

@Isekailoverrr We literally SEE Roy actually dealing with multiple, multiple ants. We see Min Hyuk deal with ONE. I already gave a reason why the mage would be on Min Hyuk's side. He gave her food! Plus, there's the fact that she could be just like people here in the comments, complaining about wanting Roy to carry her even though Roy said Min Hyuk should cover for them. All of the evidence that we actually SEE shows that Min Hyuk failed his tasks.

but since he didn’t specifically call out to Min Hyuk before saying you should stop eating bread, he shouldn’t have gotten angry for him not hearing.
You're missing the fact that Roy only said anything after the mage started criticizing Roy. Roy was literally trying to defend himself in the argument by saying Min Hyuk should've been doing more. It's completely possible that if the mage said nothing, Roy would've said nothing too. That also addresses what you're talking about when you say "When the going gets tough". It's not even when the going gets tough. It's when Roy gets blamed for something that he shouldn't be blamed for.

This is not the same as slapping someone's dessert off their hand. In real life, that still provides a benefit to you. There are still calories that you gain. This is seeing Min Hyuk continuously eating, eating past the point of satiety. Min Hyuk even says that he's not eating because of his satiety. So what can Roy base anything off of? Again, refer to my example of a person eating in a classroom. It's disrespectful to the teacher. It's the same kind of thing here. Why would this stranger pick this point to continuously eat? Why can't he eat OUTSIDE THE DUNGEON if his satiety is fine? Why is now the time that he chooses to stuff his face?

Regarding the mental disorders and labeling issue, I was responding to how you said that my comment contributes to people suffering from disorders without knowing it. My response was that I was talking about mislabeling. I would disagree with him having compensatory behavior based on the fact that he seems to exercise mostly at the urging of his doctors. He swung his sword for hours to get more food, not to compensate for the fact that he ate a bunch. If the sword swinging counts, then a person going to work to get a paycheck to get food would also count. Let me be clear that I could still be wrong about him having bulimia if the author gives more details. It's just that as of right now, it doesn't really seem that way. Most importantly, what I said does not contribute to people suffering from disorders without knowing it.

@jouyato Legit the reason spear guy gives on why he dislikes MC is because MC is eating instead of doing what MC should be doing, backing up spear guy. Legit, spear guy only even starts talking when he gets blamed by the mage. If mage hadn't even blamed spear guy, spear guy might've kept quiet and continued to carry them, just as he has been doing all this time, completely successfully, without MC doing anything. MC killed one ant. That's it.
 
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Wow that's the first time I laughed after seeing the comments LMAO. Y'all too much and I love it 👍

Tbh it is disrespectful and dangerous to act like that. Even if just for the sake of appearances, please have your sword ready to defend the group at all times, and even if someone is going to "carry" the group. But he's OP so I'm sure we'll see him kick ass next chapter and astonish everyone lol.
 
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I don't know why people are complaining, but the MC was offered a carry so he's just eating while they're going through the dungeon WHILE still doing his job as a rear support to protect the mage from ants that get through. The PK'er is getting mad that his plan at letting the Mage drawing too much aggro and letting her die and then letting the MC die after is failing. The PK'er is just pissed that the MC is so casually ruining his plan by what he initially thought was an easy mark.
 
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@Claresilver47 Because that still means that Min Hyuk was rude and disrespectful. As I've said elsewhere, I do think Roy, the spear-wielder, is going to be a bad guy because the author is probably going to take the cheap route. That doesn't mean Min Hyuk did anything good. He killed ONE ant. Meanwhile, Roy clearly took on every other ant successfully. That "plan" to draw aggro to the mage? How about the fact that 1) Roy still took care of her, regardless of any "plan" and 2) it's still realistic for Roy to be completely good and ants still attack her because she's actually doing something.

Again, yeah, Roy is probably going to turn out bad. Min Hyuk was still being rude and disrespectful here. The only reason he gets a pass is because he's our boi, the MC.
 
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i'd like to think of the castelle more as a -chan rather than a -sama
 
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@nbhstcqbvvpmacjrmv lolol, we invaded the comments and now all everyone can see are blocks of text defending the behaviors of two fictional characters.

Also, hurray, we’ve reached that point that I heard once before where we’ll only keep going in circles and that at this point we just have to acknowledge that we both disagree.

We’re at opposite ends of the always be considerate and the don’t give a fck if it doesn’t directly do any harm scale though we can probably both say both of them were disrespectful and the mage shoulda just shut up. I think Min Hyuk was also shown dealing with only one ant because storytelling with pictures means that you have to imply a bunch of things because you don’t want to draw everything. I also just believe that food can also be an experience aside from sustenance which makes the food in VR with taste just as valid.

Regarding the mental disorder, I don’t even know what the author based it off on so honestly I don’t really know anymore. I just think they at least didn’t butcher it totally but just wasn’t enough to become that one manhwa that could also be educational and yeah, you aren’t damaging everyone from your comment by being skeptical but at least acknowledge that the author got some things right because I assume they did some research even if they maybe had to write around to write the story they wanted *speculation only*

Lastly, he didn’t give the mage food though. *-*

@mimicking my life apparently enjoys speculating and arguing on the internet :D. Unless we’re overworking the servers? I don’t know tech, lol. If they start limiting comment characters because of this, this’ll be the most prominent thing I’d have influenced in my entire life. Of course, if so, just delete the comments instead, it ain’t that important :p
 
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@nbhstcqbvvpmacjrmv

Sure, they paid top dollar for the system. Sure, he every right to be harsh in the game. But how he acted like that, is the first sign of a toxic player.

Now, a good player would of asked "Dude! Can you not eat food now? Why are you eating food in the middle of a dungeon now?"
 
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Thanks for the chappy!

I’ve only read like 6 comments below me and I already understand what the rest is gonna be about
 
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@nbhstcqbvvpmacjrmv while the guy offered to carry the whole way, it doesn't mean that he will not be annoyed by the eating sounds produced the whole way in the dungeon;; He's carrying the whole team, he is probably sensitive cos he has a lot to do while min hyuk munching all the way. He did say that he will carry but ask them not to be in the way, meaning, do no not distract him (Let's say I am in the middle of doing school project and a guy in my group keep eating while I do my work.

Unless I am doing my own project in mcd. Then I get mad at someone eating near me, then it's my fault. Haha)

Also, if you feel I am attacking min hyuk and that guy. I am not. I am just speculating what is going to happen. Isn't that what we do usually? Predicting what gonna happen in the next chapters?

It just felt a bit suspicious that the guy screening his equipments before letting min hyuk in a party, that's all.

He did a bit overboard by knocking off the food

All in all, I guess not every reader likes to speculate about the story so I will keep my mouth shut reagarding this manhwa in future chapters, sorry if I ever offended anyone. I didn't have any intention to ;;
 

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