Gyaru Maid to Akuyaku Reijou ~Ojou-sama no Happy End shika Katan!~ - Ch. 10 - Overflowing with Apologies

[SrNevik]

That was a full-on punch, dude, much better than a slap, imo, and fully well-deserved.

That was definitely more than a 'few' days that the prince promised to come and reconcile. 10 DAYS?! What could have held him up to not even apologize to her immediately after that?! And he had the audacity to yell at his victim after pulling her into one of his attacks. His head was way up there in his own ass. His ego must be shattered to have his engagement be annulled by his fiance than the other way around, more than how he was shown up by her magical talents from a while ago, I imagine.

I don't know how Almelia will get the king to approve the annulment after that stunt, let alone avoid imprisonment for attacking royalty, but damn, I really hope she and Serina's lives will get better from here on.

It was also in public. You know he's embarrassed now. I'm only worried he'll try something else. He's that type of insecure, after all.

 

[Intrigbagarn]

concepts that no one in a mideval society would have

The medieval period ended around 1453 (usually you go with fall of Constantinople).

Everything about settings like this one always scream Early Victorian Era / early industrial revolution. Where they actually had some grasp of many of those concepts.

Sorry. This is just a pet peeve annoyance i got when it comes to discussions about this sort of manga/manwha.

 

[Kaitensatsuma]

 

[llde]

The medieval period ended around 1453 (usually you go with fall of Constantinople).

Everything about settings like this one always scream Early Victorian Era / early industrial revolution. Where they actually had some grasp of many of those concepts.

Sorry. This is just a pet peeve annoyance i got when it comes to discussions about this sort of manga/manwha.

maybe more Reinassance then early victorian, but totally not medieval (an era often misrepresented)

 

[Nautical]

In highschool, Girls tend to have silicone or plastic/enamel bracelets, not metallic ones, for 2 specific considerations: Durability and Cost. while that style of bracelet is forced over a duckbilled fist, its liable to fracture from incidental force applied to it. Im not approaching the cost analysis because that requires information we dont have, but the current bias on analysis of that panel is Adult, not Teen, but essentially if a bracelet fractures, its probably going to be lost, hence the material choice. Once youre not surrounded by consistent hordes of people rushing from location to location, jewelry becomes much more generally expressive rather then a splash of color like the silicone bracelets are.

The baby is not Estelle. She has Serina's Eyes and Eyelashes and the Kirk Summation is discussing a hypothetical Baby Serina. Estelle is explicitly a red herring on detailed analysis of the artwork. Eyes were VERY consistent that chapter for everyone.

While i havent specifically called out panels, the entire initial point you made i have pointed to the chapters in the assembly order necessary to understand your initial argument is fundamentally invalid, weve seen in explicit detail the potential of that spell being built towards. you then relied on hyperbole, exaggeration, and explicit bullshitting to argue your point. You seem to not understand the point of a Soft Magic System in composition, where Magic is left relatively simple and overarching in explanation so that as needed it can be adapted to the narrative's needs. In fact, solutions like the Kiaoken are purely a solution to problems within a strictly hard magic system like Dragonball's Ki.

You also need to learn the difference between Character information and Our Information. We know Serina is a Magical God by skill, Almelia is starting to realize that Serina is a magical god by skill. Everyone else is completely out of the loop. one thing you have to learn is that unless a character is explicitly granted the capability of being a reliable Narrator, everyone is an unreliable narrator describing their own internally consistent worldview. Serina to them is constantly making weird claims or doing weird things they dont comprehend. This is why i explicitly call out Serina being Almelia's maid, because while she is employed as a maid, she is not, in fact, a Maid first and foremost in their relationship. Serina either isnt thinking about the distinction, or doesnt care. Almelia is more concerned about having little Serinas then the ethicality of having babies with a woman she owns as a piece of property and not through mutual affection. The same goes for her magic. Other characters can express their opinions, but our understanding of Serina is she can do anything with magic as long as it is something that requires fine control of the arcane, but she has very little raw power and can be overwhelmed by other practitioners, either directly or indirectly.

If i come off as condescending, its because youre ignoring my fundamental point. Argue from a position of information and literary theory, not from hyperbole and baseless claim. Its why i specifically assaulted your argument with at least chapter references to demonstrate how you are wrong in making the claim that you did. Asspull and Deus Ex are Tropes that explicitly can be deconstructed

The bracelet thing is much.

Yeah i meant the baby serina was a hypothetical cuz it was showing estella pondering magic like exposition scene.

Im just saying, if Serina is allowed to regrow her hand and no one knows the rules about magic. Its left open for the author to do whatever at any time and Serina could become Super Serina.

 

[Lucca_R]

That magic gene strength was bullshit and you know it. Plot armor is strong with this one. Though I would’ve liked to see that become something permanent with actual proper consequences. Especially on how it may progress their relationship.

Still happy to see prince get punched. Asshole deserved it

I also wanted to see actual consequences on my gay manga, but I guess she can't be a maid gal without her other hand.

She could've gained a magical/mechanical hand, that would be rad.

 

[Lucca_R]

Right. Well, I can understand the prince overreacting since that level of healing is probably unheard of in this world and he probably thought they were trying to prank him...

Actually no, I don't get it at all. At least he himself would've known she really lost her hand, right? But instead of being relieved that her hand is healed or amazed at the potential of new magic, he lost his temper? I don't get it...

That shit was splurting blood, how could he not notice it? Unless there's illusory magic, then I kinda understand it.

 

[toapat]

The medieval period ended around 1453 (usually you go with fall of Constantinople).

Everything about settings like this one always scream Early Victorian Era / early industrial revolution. Where they actually had some grasp of many of those concepts.

Sorry. This is just a pet peeve annoyance i got when it comes to discussions about this sort of manga/manwha.

it doesnt resemble any historical time we can point to, because they have highschool without elementary school and no indication of the existence of College. Laktasha would have been quietly assassinated for disgracing the academy and Serina publicly executed if this was a Mideval or Renaissance College because They have to be the smartest people around and Serina is a threat by her existence.

Technologically we have no indication to put them upto the invention of the Programmable Loom, let alone anything remotely as blatantly influential as the Steam engine or the Puddling Furnace, let alone the Steel Keel or Steam Locomotive. Estelle has some basic education in linguistics, math, and noble etiquette, but thats it. Shes probably some High ranked noble's bastard daughter they are Legitimizing, not as would be in an industrial revolution some scholarship baby or Neuvo Riche so wealthy beyond comprehension they can literally outspend the royalty.

Late Mideval makes the most sense since the setting looks like it might be about ready to start moving forward, since we cant use armor theory to look at shit because they look like theyre wearing Fantasy leather Mjolnyr Armor. That just tells me they like ranged combat because magic.

 

[AquaNon]

thanks for the chapter!

 

[toapat]

Yeah i meant the baby serina was a hypothetical cuz it was showing estella pondering magic like exposition scene.

Im just saying, if Serina is allowed to regrow her hand and no one knows the rules about magic. Its left open for the author to do whatever at any time and Serina could become Super Serina.

Unless the Narrator is speaking in italics, Serina the Maid, or potentially Professor Serina, is talking to the audience directly. Estelle is a distraction and a use of dramatic irony, Estelle is clueless in the moment simultaneously because Almelia has failed to comprehend and explain what Serina is doing, and because Serina the Narrator has just kidnapped her to compare against this literal baby.

Thats not how Rules work. Soft magic doesnt restrict what magic can do inherently, but Rules are allowed that can restrict the characters. the only implied way to gain power is the interface of mucus membranes, as Estelle ingame gains statboosts whenever she kisses someone else for the first time. my theory in ch8 bases alot on the discussion of how magical strength is generally static and what Serina and Almelia say, and that Serina was a maid in the game, where as Gyaru Serina is a Servant or Slave because she tried every way to gain strength otherwise, and Serina will get a power up eventually, when she kisses Almelia finally.

 

[Nautical]

Estelle is pretty funny. Like imagine Serina explaining to her how she lost her hand but its totes fine now the real drama is Amelia annuling the engagement the next time they meet.

 

[RamenRider]

I wonder what the brother is going to do. He has an inkling of realizing that his old impressions of his sister aren’t completely true thanks to Serina (even if it failed at the end) and this is probably the first time she’s ever truly acted out. It would be nice if he was in her corner during the impending fallout. While there’s definitely going to be consequences, I think Almelia is going to be better off than in the game’s original timeline since her family has less reason to just cut her off with the mess the prince made leading up to this.

 

[Intrigbagarn]

it doesnt resemble any historical time we can point to, because they have highschool without elementary school and no indication of the existence of College. Laktasha would have been quietly assassinated for disgracing the academy and Serina publicly executed if this was a Mideval or Renaissance College because They have to be the smartest people around and Serina is a threat by her existence.

Technologically we have no indication to put them upto the invention of the Programmable Loom, let alone anything remotely as blatantly influential as the Steam engine or the Puddling Furnace, let alone the Steel Keel or Steam Locomotive. Estelle has some basic education in linguistics, math, and noble etiquette, but thats it. Shes probably some High ranked noble's bastard daughter they are Legitimizing, not as would be in an industrial revolution some scholarship baby or Neuvo Riche so wealthy beyond comprehension they can literally outspend the royalty.

Late Mideval makes the most sense since the setting looks like it might be about ready to start moving forward, since we cant use armor theory to look at shit because they look like theyre wearing Fantasy leather Mjolnyr Armor. That just tells me they like ranged combat because magic.

Why do you say it doesnt look like any time period then go on to say it looks like x (late medieval) time period?

Like you argue its a fantasy world so we cant know things in one breath, but then in the next you compare it to medieval times and say X cant exist and Y would happen because of Z. Im sorry but that doesnt make any logical sense. Either we can do comparisons to our real world time periods or we cant. And if we can its definitely not comparable to the medieval era.

Anyway when using named time periods in history the indutrial revolution in England is considered to have started 1767 with the invention of the Spinning Jenny, so early industrial revolution is about 1760-1790. Terms like this (and medieval era) are used to make it easier to communicate a vague time period in a discussion when specific dates dont fit into the context of the said discussion. Its not meant to pinpoint excact dates where something HAS to exist, if you need to do that just use dates.


Now why do I usually compare the worlds of mangas like this to that time period rather then the medieval era?
1: The structure of the nobility and the lack of fiefs and serfdom.
2: Education not being controlled by the church
3: Architecture
4: Clothing design
5: The power and importance of the Royal family

 

[djinr8]

the only implied way to gain power is the interface of mucus membranes, as Estelle ingame gains statboosts whenever she kisses someone else for the first time.

Wait, where is that mentioned? I don't remember it at all.

 

[KuraiTora]

Wait, where is that mentioned? I don't remember it at all.

It wasn't mentioned because they pulled it out of nothing. Must be thinking of the Fate series and the mana transfer.

 

[Another_Astartes]

To play devil's advocate a bit, if someone lost their freaking hand, and it was someone's fault and the person later shows up and goes "haha, lookie here! It's healed up all by itself, you don't have to worry." it'd probably mess anyone up. He's still a gigantic asshole with self esteem issues who lashed out and just made it worse, but I think to him it came across like it was a huge joke, like who the hell just heals a missing hand naturally, when there's no precedent?

There are several witnesses to her losing her hand and being without it for days

 

[BobTheSkrull]

As much as I can see the hand regrowth as something cheap, this way of doing it was way better than a certain series half-assing it with mermaid fluids.

 

[toapat]

Wait, where is that mentioned? I don't remember it at all.

ch4 when Serina is explaining knight training class. the only way to train stats is acquire boyfriends.

It wasn't mentioned because they pulled it out of nothing. Must be thinking of the Fate series and the mana transfer.

Im articulating what Serina said on the ASSUMPTION its not a game mechanic. Presumably Serina would experience the same effects and benefits, but to a much more significant degree, when she finally kisses Almelia. I also dont see why this effect would be exclusive to mouth-to-mouth kissing, or why it cant also be performed by Blood Oath.

Why do you say it doesnt look like any time period then go on to say it looks like x (late medieval) time period?

Now why do I usually compare the worlds of mangas like this to that time period rather then the medieval era?
1: The structure of the nobility and the lack of fiefs and serfdom.
2: Education not being controlled by the church
3: Architecture
4: Clothing design
5: The power and importance of the Royal family

Im identifying where the latest it can be based on significant societal defining milestones in technology and not the general period those times are adhered to. there actually is an industrial revolution that happened before the main one that we ignore because of the much more exciting wars of colonialism and wars of royal succession that happened at the other end of the 18th century, which saw the proliferation of water wheel powered factories in both brittain and the north american colonies.

1: Barring Mr Flammel, we have literally never seen an adult in the series who isnt part of the waitstaff or a serving Guard Knight.
2: we dont know who or how Estelle got her pre-Academy Education, and everyone else has private tutors, which can put you anywhere from the dawn of human civilization until, ironically for what you claim, the end of the Napoleonic Wars and the beginning of the high industrial revolution.
3+4: dont mean anything. Few artists are going to be putting in the kind of effort to explain clothing and architecture movements in a historical sense. the clothing, at least outside of the flashbacks to Earth Serina, read to me as "Fantasy High Class with cosplay maids", while the architecture is literally indecipherable to the period since its all timberframed with stucco walls, and thats assuming theyre not painting the walls white. then you have interior sills on the windows from Versailles and the Celesbrite manor has god damn welded aluminum and glass fencing around it. In fact looking at it it looks like what architecture is there, i feel like it was designed jointly by the author and artists by emailing Sims 4 Plots to eachother.
5: you mean the structure of monarchies before the Age of Absolutism or the formation of Parliaments? where maintaining vassal's Fealty was less by government order and the threat of national arms, and instead at the behest of political favors and walking the tightrope of political moderatism? Because the Japanese Otome Princess Dating Sim trope doesnt make sense with their power dynamics and conflicts for an Absolute monarchy, Elective Monarchy, or Constitutional Monarchy. These kids arent clearly told "youre going to marry Mrs Bitch to keep the Warhawks in line, youre going to marry Mr Stick-up-his-Ass to keep the Libertarians in line, and youre going to be prime minister so you have to marry Mrs Holds-40%-of-the-National-Economy to keep the peasants in line for your brother."

 

[KuraiTora]

ch4 when Serina is explaining knight training class. the only way to train stats is acquire boyfriends.

Im articulating what Serina said on the ASSUMPTION its not a game mechanic. Presumably Serina would experience the same effects and benefits, but to a much more significant degree, when she finally kisses Almelia. I also dont see why this effect would be exclusive to mouth-to-mouth kissing, or why it cant also be performed by Blood Oath.

So that's where our interpretations differ. To me it's basically what Almelia's already doing to Estelle, but in a less Spartan/life-threatening way.

Because she's a commoner without prior knowledge, she would need the help of these guys to train the finer details of certain attributes.

Leonardia would increase magical attack and MP.

Edward would increase physical attack and constitution/stamina/HP.

Sylvester would increase intelligence and wisdom.

Mathias would be charisma and agility.

And that's assuming there aren't more love interests not introduced by now.

 

[djinr8]

ch4 when Serina is explaining knight training class. the only way to train stats is acquire boyfriends.

so for starters, that's not what it says. The exact quote is:

"I Dedicate This Miracle To You". Despite being a romance simulation, this otome game also benefits from its profound battle part. There's no level system, but you do grow stronger by choosing to train as a knight during the schedule parts. By putting in the effort to raise the heroine's favorability with the love interests, your stats increase too.

Capturing targets is a way to train your stats in the game, but it is explicitly not the only way.

Setting that aside, it is an absurd leap of logic to go from "you can gain stats by increasing your favorability" to "the only way to gain magic power is by transferring it through a mucous membrane". Are you sure you didn't get mixed up with The Helpless Saint and the Powerless Princess?