Hajirau Kimi ga Mitainda - Ch. 65.1 - Shirasawa’s Awakening 3

[Crackerjack94]

A lot of arguments here.

There.
Now I await YOUR explanation why he is saying that.

So a guy they doesn't love her, never thought she loved him, and loves someone else is mad and jealous over another guy?
I will agree with you that yes she is obsessed but I don't think he's mad over being a substitute. I think he's mad that she thinks he would be fine with her actions. He yells he's "not Saiga", which to me is him saying he's his own person and has his own feelings. He doesn't know or care if Saiga would've liked this if he was in his position but he doesn't. He knows she's obsessed with Saiga, but he's mad that she'd think he'd play along with her fantasies under the assumption that Saiga might have let her. All I got out of that is him trying to wake her up from her delusions. She never apologizes and even tries to justify her actions, which just piss him off.

Again him simply being mad as being seen as a replacement would make him petty and wouldn't make much sense story wise, since he doesn't love her. There was no since of feeling inadequate around Saiga once they met up afterwards either. The story doesn't play with the idea of him wanting to be seen as equal to Saiga in her eyes sexually at any point before or after that part. Compare that to how openly confrontational he was with the mere idea of guys getting close to Kaho and I feel him being mad over that doesn't fit his character, especially if you want to say he willingly participated in them having sex.

How can he be mad at being seen as someone else by his sex partner when his sex partner would just be a stand in someone else for him?

 

[Iskarioth]

Of course it's my headcanon. Everything either of us says is headcanon. My good are you just stupid?

I'm good, yes and no headcanon means you wrote a spin off in your mind that has nothing to do with the original anymore.

 

[Crackerjack94]

I'm good, yes and no headcanon means you wrote a spin off in your mind that has nothing to do with the original anymore.

oh my bad I didn't know you were the author of the manga. Wait. You aren't? So that means nothing you say really means much as well. Keep believing your superior to everyone else though.

 

[Iskarioth]

oh my bad I didn't know you were the author of the manga. Wait. You aren't? So that means nothing you say really means much as well. Keep believing your superior to everyone else though.

Sais the guy putting words into the mouth of the author (and everyone he's failing to debate too), literally the irony couldn't be better. Remember when you said "It's written as something serious and something we aren't supposed to see as being good" <-- that's you talking about things that aren't in the damn source material.

 

[Crackerjack94]

Sais the guy putting words into the mouth of the author (and everyone he's failing to debate too), literally the irony couldn't be better. Remember when you said "It's written as something serious and something we aren't supposed to see as being good" <-- that's you talking about things that aren't in the damn source material.

I've always tried to portray how I see things with I feel or I think. If I forgot to add that at some points I'll own up to that. But how about you don't be hypocritical and act like you don't do the same.

 

[Iskarioth]

I've always tried to portray how I see things with I feel or I think. If I forgot to add that at some points I'll own up to that. But how about you don't be hypocritical and act like you don't do the same.

Well I don't talk about how it makes me feel (or try to at least), I said so many times. I simply go by Occam's razor to interpret what is shown, you clearly don't. You'd rather insult people who don't feel like you.

 

[Moneymike1995]

I'm good, yes and no headcanon means you wrote a spin off in your mind that has nothing to do with the original anymore.

The fact that someone believes that this guy is good at arguing is hilarious. His whole argument is him believing if he acts smarter that means the other person is wrong. I'd rather be an outright jerk than a passive aggressive douchebag that acts conceited over people's stance on a manga.

Seriously, in any country story like "Teacher invited his underage student for a drink (that's already a crime, especially from a person in position of social trust like a teacher), gave her alcohol in form she couldn't recognize, got her drunk, offered her place to sleep, then in the middle on the night got on top of her and took her virginity, next morning she was regretful and sulking" would cause firestorm in the news, firing like from cannon and total social death of the teacher, big problems for the school and questions about standards for teachers, maximum penalty for intoxicating minor, if student was over age of consent then probably wave of demands for increasing it to get guys like him next time, if not then jail term as a pedo rapist. No one would care if she sucked his dick at one point or not.

Arguments about "was he really that drunk" are dumb because the whole point of banning alcohol for minors is that they aren't mature enough to drink it in the eyes of society, so adult who breaks that law to get them drunk before having sex with them is automatically suspect.

It's crazy how alcohol is the one factor people who deny any abuse happened can't explain. They keep mentioning going to parties or bars, but they can't explain why the author decided to add alcohol there. Without alcohol things would still be bad, but people would see where they were coming from. But adding the alcohol changes things. It changes the context of things and of both their actions. They could argue how they weren't "that drunk" all they want but they fact that they were even drunk at all means something. If they want to say "they weren't that drunk" I have to ask why would the author add in alcohol or make them drunk at all? The simple fact that alcohol was written in when they could've had that scene play out with them completely sober imho changes the context of what is meant to be happening.

 

[Crackerjack94]

Well I don't talk about how it makes me feel (or try to at least), I said so many times. I simply go by Occam's razor to interpret what is shown, you clearly don't. You'd rather insult people who don't feel like you.

Whatever kid.

 

[Crackerjack94]

The fact that someone believes that this guy is good at arguing is hilarious. His whole argument is him believing if he acts smarter that means the other person is wrong. I'd rather be an outright jerk than a passive aggressive douchebag that acts conceited over people's stance on a manga.

It's crazy how alcohol is the one factor people who deny any abuse happened can't explain. They keep mentioning going to parties or bars, but they can't explain why the author decided to add alcohol there. Without alcohol things would still be bad, but people would see where they were coming from. But adding the alcohol changes things. It changes the context of things and of both their actions. They could argue how they weren't "that drunk" all they want but they fact that they were even drunk at all means something. If they want to say "they weren't that drunk" I have to ask why would the author add in alcohol or make them drunk at all? The simple fact that alcohol was written in when they could've had that scene play out with them completely sober imho changes the context of what is meant to be happening.

I honestly think he's so self centered and in his own little world that he can't even see how much of a passive aggressive dick he is

 

[bishbosh_91]

Wtf happens in the chapter comment 🤣🤣🤣, tfw u will never play nipple guessing game with anime girl 😭😭😭

 

[Mordenheim]

So a guy they doesn't love her, never thought she loved him, and loves someone else is mad and jealous over another guy?
I will agree with you that yes she is obsessed but I don't think he's mad over being a substitute. I think he's mad that she thinks he would be fine with her actions. He yells he's "not Saiga", which to me is him saying he's his own person and has his own feelings. He doesn't know or care if Saiga would've liked this if he was in his position but he doesn't. He knows she's obsessed with Saiga, but he's mad that she'd think he'd play along with her fantasies under the assumption that Saiga might have let her. All I got out of that is him trying to wake her up from her delusions. She never apologizes and even tries to justify her actions, which just piss him off.

Again him simply being mad as being seen as a replacement would make him petty and wouldn't make much sense story wise, since he doesn't love her. There was no since of feeling inadequate around Saiga once they met up afterwards either. The story doesn't play with the idea of him wanting to be seen as equal to Saiga in her eyes sexually at any point before or after that part. Compare that to how openly confrontational he was with the mere idea of guys getting close to Kaho and I feel him being mad over that doesn't fit his character, especially if you want to say he willingly participated in them having sex.

How can he be mad at being seen as someone else by his sex partner when his sex partner would just be a stand in someone else for him?

And??
This is your opinion of my interpretation of what happened. I'm not asking for that.
Once again, provide YOUR explanation why he is saying that.

 

[Dingusthe1st]

Dress up like your sister they said
It'll be fun they said

 

[nueee]

Thank you!

 

[Realms_Beyond]

Propz to the translators for some god tier shitposting. This entire comment section got baited to turn itself into a dumpster fire by some nerds who don't even deadlift.

 

[swannfiles]

Did the translator really just pull the “he isn’t the victim bc he enjoyed it” card….

 

[beep_repair]

Who turned this place into Reddit?

 

[beep_repair]

And need I remind you why we fight?

 

[oedon]

damn those tl notes are some top shelf cringe

 

[kendeeman]

We don't have a new chapter again until next Sunday? I forgot. Is this a bi-weekly release?

 

[frankieMuniez]

Yeah, no.
I already pointed that elsewhere.
As you can see in the relevant chapter, it was Ekoda who wanted to go to sleep and they were going to their respective rooms.

• IF the guy wasn't locked out and didn't went to her room as result, nothing would happen.
• IF Ekoda planned/intended to seduce him with the help of alkohol then she would make her move during the conversation or, at least, when they were going back.

It was rape, you can keep your gross rape apology up as much as possible, it was rape. She date raped him, that’s the whole conversation.