Handyman Saitou in Another World - Vol. 1 Ch. 20 - Merrymaking in the Dwarf's Workshop

[DaJa-rahrah]

@boag There really needs to be an isekai story where Alex Jones gets transferred.

 

[Coughman]

"GUN... BAD"
bro you live in a world full of demons and magic with people who are nigh invincible even without armor on.
have you even read the bonus chapters, bro?
a high speed metal pellet ain't gonna turn the world on its head.

 

[boag]

@DaJa-rahrah
What makes you think Alex isnt an Isekai Hero right now?

 

[DaJa-rahrah]

@boag I'd doubt it since otherwise his only cheat is "being right"and he hasn't stopped the globalistsDemon Lord yet. Also with the kung flu going 'round it'd mean there isn't much chance for the rest of us getting sent to a fantasy world where you're given a standard issue harem within 24-48 hours of transfer.

 

[deezenautz]

If waterwheels and locks exist in a word where woman knights and magic exist, just make a fucking gun before someone else does, dumbass.

 

[arghhhhhh]

@Coughman "bro you live in a world full of demons and magic with people who are nigh invincible even without armor on"

yeah now imagine those same demons and super powered people with guns, they'd be unstoppable!

 

[need4speedrazor6]

He has a point, but someone will make guns sooner or later.

 

[kenkagejack]

MC: Can you make a metal tube that sends a metal ball through it with explosives?
B.Smith: You mean a gun? Don't you guys fight underground under torch/mage light in essentially close quarters?
MC: . . . .
B.Smith: You'd only be a threat to yourself and your friends. How about a right handed punching gauntlet? I'll sell it for cheap.

 

[sdarkpaladin]

Well, a flintlock pistol would be useful in a pinch, even in close-quarter fights.

 

[vodspod]

The concept of a gun is rather simple. the only reason it was not invented in medieval times is due to the fact that they did not have any material that could quickly and violently combust. The evolution of the idea goes as follows.

1. Quick violent combustible found
2. It is stored in a case and for some reason like a house fire it is detonated
3. People find out that you can use that idea to just use it as a bomb
4. A durable material is use to contain the combustible and it is detonated putting most of the force through a weak portion of the container
5. They use the durable material to create cannon like weapons that direct a blast
6. Something is clogging the cannon like material when it detonates, and that material is launched a far distance
7. They use that to make an actual cannon.
8. They want to make an easier to move cannon so they make it smaller
9. It gets to the point that they can carry it
10. It gets to the point that they can carry it one handed after a long period of improvements.

Most of this is just about guaranteed to happen once a violently combustible material is found. The reason there are no guns in fantasy novels where they can simulated such a material with magic is because most fantasy novels are based around medieval times when there was no known material available that had that feature.

Tell me if there is any problem with my analysis that is flawed such as one of the events being unlikely, because I personally don't see it.

 

[Hell_Satan]

@vodspod As you mentioned how can they invent a gun without blackpowder/gunpowder invent blackpowder/gunpowder first even in our world the invention of blackpowder/gunpowder was don by accident, nevertheless I want someone to reinvent Greek fire that and Damascus steal at least once those are real lost technology.

 

[NazrinMaus]

@BirchJuice
There have been many instances of prescribed drugs having as-of-then unknown serious side effects, and the effects of a child not being raised by their own parents goes without saying.
This is not a conspiracy theory. What is a conspiracy theory is pretending that all of this was deliberate, which to some extent it was because it's simply in a corporation's best interest to not admit fault after they realize they've been handing out dementia pills which they thought simply relieved back pain.

Guns in a fantasy setting are hardly a terribly evil thing. It could even be argued that it would be objectively good, as it could give peasants the power to slay demon lords. As in Warhammer, where would humanity be if they didn't have guns?

 

[Euphaire]

Don't wanna bring gun to the otherworld eh? How about this pump action semi-automatic compound bow with magazine then?
https://youtu.be/f3fcNyZoEIw

Hell, just a compound bow might be enough for self defense, I think that dwarf smart enough to figure out the lever system that needed for the bow.

 

[BirchJuice]

@NazrinMaus: How come you are suddenly (almost) reasonable?

Just so that people can see your bs again:
>People who grew up with those very same nanny-services, surrogate-parent television shows, and mind-altering prescription drugs won't be able to accept the facts you're firing their direction. It's pointless, they'll just parrot what their nannies, tv shows, and ghetto doctors told them.
Tl;dr: Several wrong premises or implied premises which aren't true or mostly wrong, TV is indeed shit, especially for kids and senile grandparents. But yes, most people are stupid sheeple. Cannot be bothered to address docs, ghettos, drugs and drug usage and parent-child time/relationship and shite.

Much better and an actually (almost, see context but I cannot be arsed...) reasonable post, should've started like that:
>There have been many instances of prescribed drugs having as-of-then unknown serious side effects
Always possible but "Murka" takes the cake here.
>and the effects of a child not being raised by their own parents goes without saying.
Heh. Most children "despite" school and kindergarten and sadly a low amount of "parent-child-time" turn out fine.

 

[Arcara]

Crossbow is already usable by peasants with minimal training, and guns isn't that different in maintenance albeit both are simpler than bows

 

[Kaarme]

@Hell_Satan Such legendary things are kind of meaningless to reinvent. As a weapon, napalm or white phosphorus would already beat Greek fire. Modern steel alloys beat the historical damascus steel as it is. This is precisely why these days the damascus technique is mainly reserved for ornamental purposes. It's not needed to make anything stronger, per se. The modern alloys can also be engineered in modern ways, to make structures much lighter yet still retaining the needed strength. This is essentially why nobody serious has spent that much resources trying to perfectly recreate the Greek fire or damascus from the legends. It would produce no financial results to compensate for the costs.

Gunpowder actually went through a thousand years of slow development, through trial and error. It was far more complicated to the get to the modern smokeless powder point than most isekai authors would bother to think about. Though of course if the MC only dreams of a flintlock (let alone a matchlock like in the chapter), it doesn't require smokeless powder, but it still does require properly treated gunpowder. It would also allow him to go without cartridge cases and primers, a huge alleviation.

 

[Simshynaru]

Having a gun will make his party safer from foes in the dungeons. It would be better to ontain a weapon you're familiar with, then to rely on non-existant sword skills.

 

[Hell_Satan]

@Kaarme who said reinvent them in mdern time I'm reffering to reinvent and use them in fantasy coneon damascus steal is fantasy like enough to be use in fantasy story.

 

[Kaarme]

@Hell_Satan Sorry, I misunderstood your original post.

 

[dharman]

inventing 'innocent' gun? dat is weri-weri danjerus....