Harapeko Oyako to Motokare Yanushi - Ch. 25

[MangaDex]

 

[MagnaDrake]

Well, like mother like daughter, i guess

 

[Bakuvoid]

Harsh

 

[TheDarkStar]

Love it that neither Minori nor Takaharu are convinced that Kyo can tell the difference between detergent and fabric softener. And very glad the last page makes it clear that THEY ARE NOT ARGUING!

 

[pikachiu24]

You think she was about to say something horrible but instead it’s more mundane but yet devastating.

 

[EulBassist]

Thanks for the chapter!

 

[UdenEmpati]

Minori is so hellbent on helping out her mother that doing things "for Minori" have never crossed her mind.

Given that's how Kyou has lived Minori's entire life, I can see why it worries & stresses Kyou out to hear her daughter say that. She's sacrificed a lot to see Minori happy and healthy, and likely wants Minori to have the opportunities she never did--like her desire to make picture books.

Kyou also had to give up a lot when she had to drop out of college (and break up with Takaharu), to that end. So her wanting Minori to choose her own path is very understandable.

She needs to say that to Minori, though. And, she might need to prove that she'll be okay without her daughter always constantly at her side, because clearly Minori will be worried if she's not (and potentially for good reason).

Which.....might be where Takaharu finally factors in. Kyou and Minori have honestly been living in survival mode for years. We see it in the flashbacks of Kyou worrying about having food in the house for Minori, and in how even in the relative stability of Takaharu's home, she continues to deny herself "for Minori's sake". So something in the dynamic needs to change, so that Minori feels secure enough to spread her wings for her own sake.

 

[mianghuei]

 

[Lunkli]

So she should run a laundromat, right?

 

[razorshaleh]

yep, they really feel like a happy little family here. and the daughter clearly takes after her mom. like mother, like daughter

thank you for translation

 

[alacaelum]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA... she is such a girlfailure .

Minori loves her mama, it is a sign of how good a mom Kyou was to her... even if she is not exactly the most efficient XD.

But it is good that Kyou is making sure Minori keeps in mind to live her life, it is just she is young and doesn't have enough life lived to understand that, but the answer will come.

BUT... they look so alike when worked up XD... and I noticed this before, never commented about, but the last panel shows it so much... Minori has her father's brows, at least I think it's his, because Kyou's are BIG.

 

[coyote_vdb]

Thanks for the translation.

 

[nxneil13]

thx for the tl

this was not the fight i was expecting to happen, but its good enough. But I really like how even though they are two different distinct appearances, esp with the eyebrows, you can easily tell they're mother daughter

 

[Kaito57]

Big words coming from a freeloader and an ungrateful brat…

 

[nyoron77]

DNA can't lie 😆

Argument between mom and daughter are not good ...but like this kind are just fine ...

At least ...we got " father " to calm them down

 

[Bobtoad1]

Minori is so hellbent on helping out her mother that doing things "for Minori" have never crossed her mind.

Given that's how Kyou has lived Minori's entire life, I can see why it worries & stresses Kyou out to hear her daughter say that. She's sacrificed a lot to see Minori happy and healthy, and likely wants Minori to have the opportunities she never did--like her desire to make picture books.

Kyou also had to give up a lot when she had to drop out of college (and break up with Takaharu), to that end. So her wanting Minori to choose her own path is very understandable.

She needs to say that to Minori, though. And, she might need to prove that she'll be okay without her daughter always constantly at her side, because clearly Minori will be worried if she's not (and potentially for good reason).

Which.....might be where Takaharu finally factors in. Kyou and Minori have honestly been living in survival mode for years. We see it in the flashbacks of Kyou worrying about having food in the house for Minori, and in how even in the relative stability of Takaharu's home, she continues to deny herself "for Minori's sake". So something in the dynamic needs to change, so that Minori feels secure enough to spread her wings for her own sake.

I like your assessment, and I wonder if Kyou is maybe upset because she's seeing some of her (very noble, to be clear) self-sacrificing behavior is actually harmful in its on way to how her daughter understands family and relationships. IMHO Minori could be on the path to having a real toxic co-dependant nature, and Kyou sees that and doesn't want that to be the lesson she passes on.

 

[UdenEmpati]

I like your assessment, and I wonder if Kyou is maybe upset because she's seeing some of her (very noble, to be clear) self-sacrificing behavior is actually harmful in its on way to how her daughter understands family and relationships. IMHO Minori could be on the path to having a real toxic co-dependant nature, and Kyou sees that and doesn't want that to be the lesson she passes on.

I think I largely agree.
My view is that Kyou sees Minori at risk of becoming like herself--someone who has to 'give up on their dreams' to address the immediate concerns of the present and of those around them.

Kyou did that for Minori. As you said, it was necessary for her--but it extends back before that, even, when Kyou had to leave college/break up with Takaharu. We still don't have the explicit reason as to why, but it seems to have had something to do with "family circumstances"--meaning Kyou gave up her own pursuits to go back home, for whatever reason, and start being a working adult immediately.
And it wasn't all bad--it lead eventually to Minori coming into existence, which is inarguably a net positive for Kyou.

But Kyou went on to sacrifice herself for Minori's sake all through the daughter's life, and she's still doing that, rejecting potential happiness with Takaharu just to ensure Minori's needs are met.
And now, she's seeing the result of all of that. It was all necessary, and reasonable, and I'd argue justified--but it's left Minori feeling like she has to shoulder half the burder with her mother. Something Kyou has never wanted, but probably never gave significant thought to being a possibility (or, until recently, hasn't had the time to reflect on it).

Which is how Takaharu will factor in. Because he represents a place of stability wherein both Minori and Kyou can finally rest and attend to needs higher up Maslow's Pyramid, as it were. If Minori can be certain that Kyou "doesn't need her", she can move forward with pursuing her own dreams without feeling fearful or conflicted.

And it's a nice little bit of symbolism with how many parents are in the real world. A lot of them (hopefully) want their children to succeed where they might have failed--to have opportunities never afforded to themselves. So they'll work themselves to the bone to see their children want for nothing, and have that support base to pursue their dreams.
Kyou has done that for Minori, after (seemingly) having no one do it for her. It wasn't quite enough (and that's not an indictment on Kyou), but now she has someone who is able, and even willing, to help her shoulder that weight of responsibility.

And with Takaharu doing so, Minori can finally breathe, knowing her mother is being cared for, and she can start looking ahead to her own life.

 

[shwiftyshfifty]

Never get between a mama bear and her cub

 

[UnvalidUserName]

Never get between a mama bear and her cub

They both look so cute when mad thou 😭

 

[Starbright]

I like your assessment, and I wonder if Kyou is maybe upset because she's seeing some of her (very noble, to be clear) self-sacrificing behavior is actually harmful in its on way to how her daughter understands family and relationships. IMHO Minori could be on the path to having a real toxic co-dependant nature, and Kyou sees that and doesn't want that to be the lesson she passes on.

I'm not sure if the mother is even looking at in way that she's trying to save her from bad traits of herself and think it might be more that since her whole adult life has revolved around prioritizing everything for her daughter so think her reasoning is to make sure her daughter is as happy as possible.

While in same respect the daughters world revolves around her mother and most wants to lift her of all her burdens so the mother can also focus on her own happiness. Issue being one of the core things the mother truly wants is to get back with the ml but since the daughter is against it think this cycle of prioritizing the other will continue until the daughter is okay with the mom being with the mc where the daughter will feel better about pursuing things for her happiness.