Harapeko Oyako to Motokare Yanushi

[zachary145]

Isn't it best if he just let them stay to another room instead of living with him,I feel bad for the guy tbh she just shove herself in his life,If MC is not the father of the girl she could atleast wait for the child to become independent then shove herself to his life that would make a proper fit her giving a chance for the MC to think of settling down rather than force family bonding thing.

 

[Starbright]

Seen alot of people bad mouth the mother in this series of false premises like that she's using him and so on.

Only recent chapters give a better idea of what happened where the fml broke up with ml since she had family problems and didn't want to be a burden to him. For whatever reason the ml never pursues the fml and easy let's her go. Even though he says in early chapters that he got over her its clear he hasn't where he's still single after 17 years of the breakup and making art of her. It seems also the fml also loves him too and likely didn't pursue him again not to be a burden since seems the ex husband died fairly early when the daughter was born and only came seeking her old boyfriend because she was pretty much homeless but think on some level she wanted to see him again. Seems her marriage was more so a marriage of convenience where she met her husband at work and helped her out when she was struggling I'm not sure to what level her feeling for her husband was but seems her true love that she gave up was the ml. Seems currently both are choosing not to pursue each other where I think both acknowledge both have feelings for each other but don't for the sake of the daughter who seems against this relationship.

 

[Starbright]

Haven't read it (won't), sounds like he's just a rebound for a selfish single mother cause they dated 17 years ago

I don't really get the point of the premise, "Wouldn't it be great if your ex of 17 years ago took you in as a single parent?", what?
He hasn't moved on and he's going to risk wasting time for her?

I'd be a lot less awkward if he didn't know her, if it's out of pure pity/duty and not some "I can't move on"/"I'm glad I can see her again" feeling, a lot less pathetic too (For example, his step-parent/relative has him house some step-cousins/relatives, he's not related, doesn't know them, but he has to so he can appease his parent's marriage(duty), and pities them(though, that'd fade))
Currently the only reason they're there is because he knew her, he probably hasn't moved on, and pity, all which are wrought with regret, a "Why did I do that" moment (Blind altruism is not a pure positive)

If he had an ounce of "I don't want to do this" (the pity fades) and she starts seeing that, then she'd have a reason to be active, be it beneficial, or less taxing on him, does she not see herself as a burden?
Is it just "Sorry, thank you, sorry, thank you" like I imagine

That's because people running with assumptions see two types of individuals shitting on the story those that are making assumptions of the plot of the series and characters based on couple chapters which to the extent is the series fault since you only really get idea of what's going on 20 chapters in. Then theres those that just hate the idea that even if ex lover has reasonable circumstances of breaking up and she comes back with a kid that automatically makes you a simp or cuck for still wanting her back which I'm hoping individuals with this mindset are immature kids not adults but I'm sure lot adults have this mentality.

 

[TestAddress]

Haven't read it (won't), sounds like he's just a rebound for a selfish single mother cause they dated 17 years ago

I don't really get the point of the premise, "Wouldn't it be great if your ex of 17 years ago took you in as a single parent?", what?
He hasn't moved on and he's going to risk wasting time for her?

I'd be a lot less awkward if he didn't know her, if it's out of pure pity/duty and not some "I can't move on"/"I'm glad I can see her again" feeling, a lot less pathetic too (For example, his step-parent/relative has him house some step-cousins/relatives, he's not related, doesn't know them, but he has to so he can appease his parent's marriage(duty), and pities them(though, that'd fade))
Currently the only reason they're there is because he knew her, he probably hasn't moved on, and pity, all which are wrought with regret, a "Why did I do that" moment (Blind altruism is not a pure positive)

If he had an ounce of "I don't want to do this" (the pity fades) and she starts seeing that, then she'd have a reason to be active, be it beneficial, or less taxing on him, does she not see herself as a burden?
Is it just "Sorry, thank you, sorry, thank you" like I imagine

Found a man with self respect

 

[67User67]

making art of her.
her true love that she gave up was the ml.
both have feelings for each other but daughter seems against this relationship.

comes back with a kid that automatically makes you a simp for still wanting her back which individuals with this mindset are immature kids

Issue is not moving on, neither moves on, if you saw the end of the "Titanic" where the grandma goes on about a guy she was on a boat with while her actual family has to listen to that, how could you respect her at all
(This happens in real life)
(Could you imagine your parent talking about some ex when your other parent dies? Hello?)

It's exactly what you said, the daughter doesn't want this, he isn't her Dad, this is always going to be a point of contention, always has been, will be, if the daughter did move on from her real Dad, she'd have no respect for her real Dad, but the mother is being selfish not only towards her daughter, but her ex too, she is an awful mother
(I know our Dad died, here's my ex from 17 years ago)

If we never move on from anything, you'd still be pissed someone broke your sandcastle, it's a part of life, it's more immature to never move on, sure, accepting someone is kind, but the issue is she's his ex, he's doing it because she's his ex, if for example he's welcome in other people other than his ex, that'd be a nicer premise as he isn't making an exception for her, but he is, he's sacrificing for her, only her (when someone more worthy could exist), he doesn't owe her anything, if anything she owes him
(Who cares, he's probably going to say "It's nothing, thanks for being here"... as any MAN SHOULD, ladies, who's with me???)
(Male devotion is a consistent theme in female written romance, marriage is his devotion to her, she's "secured" him)
(Other female written themes would be, going back to an ex, gender preconceptions, and unaccountability)

If you dated 5 people in the past, then all of them came rushing to you 17 years later for help, does something not feel, off? They're using you, literally, this is not kind to do, they are not kind people, realistically when they are declined help (after pulling the, "Don't you remember? OMG we should've talked more, I am SO sorry"), they will drop their facade and act harsh, selfish, childish, this happens in real life, you can find people calling their exes of years ago to make sure they can't get back together before their wedding, this is the type of people we're dealing with, they're bad partners, they lack accountability, and do what they want
(Again, selfish, selfishness does not go far in relationships, it is not "mutual")
(Realistically, if this guy has a kid with her, she's gonna move on to some other ex she had if he dies, what a doll)


So, what should they do? Mother moves on from her "soulmate", and prioritises her daughter (as any mother would)
And the male lead should move on, and prioritise something literally other than the "her" from 17 years ago (as anyone would)

Who am I kidding, "Oh joy, my ex from 17 years ago I get to finally be with again", and they lived happily ever after
(Except the real Dad, he's in hell or something, for stopping soulmates)

Don't get me wrong, I'm a bit of a hopeless romantic, but I can't respect someone who uses others, I wouldn't put that person past harping their child of "Do you love me? Say you love me"

 

[Starbright]

Issue is not moving on, neither moves on, if you saw the end of the "Titanic" where the grandma goes on about a guy she was on a boat with while her actual family has to listen to that, how could you respect her at all
(This happens in real life)
(Could you imagine your parent talking about some ex when your other parent dies? Hello?)

It's exactly what you said, the daughter doesn't want this, he isn't her Dad, this is always going to be a point of contention, always has been, will be, if the daughter did move on from her real Dad, she'd have no respect for her real Dad, but the mother is being selfish not only towards her daughter, but her ex too, she is an awful mother
(I know our Dad died, here's my ex from 17 years ago)

If we never move on from anything, you'd still be pissed someone broke your sandcastle, it's a part of life, it's more immature to never move on, sure, accepting someone is kind, but the issue is she's his ex, he's doing it because she's his ex, if for example he's welcome in other people other than his ex, that'd be a nicer premise as he isn't making an exception for her, but he is, he's sacrificing for her, only her (when someone more worthy could exist), he doesn't owe her anything, if anything she owes him
(Who cares, he's probably going to say "It's nothing, thanks for being here"... as any MAN SHOULD, ladies, who's with me???)
(Male devotion is a consistent theme in female written romance, marriage is his devotion to her, she's "secured" him)
(Other female written themes would be, going back to an ex, gender preconceptions, and unaccountability)

If you dated 5 people in the past, then all of them came rushing to you 17 years later for help, does something not feel, off? They're using you, literally, this is not kind to do, they are not kind people, realistically when they are declined help (after pulling the, "Don't you remember? OMG we should've talked more, I am SO sorry"), they will drop their facade and act harsh, selfish, childish, this happens in real life, you can find people calling their exes of years ago to make sure they can't get back together before their wedding, this is the type of people we're dealing with, they're bad partners, they lack accountability, and do what they want
(Again, selfish, selfishness does not go far in relationships, it is not "mutual")
(Realistically, if this guy has a kid with her, she's gonna move on to some other ex she had if he dies, what a doll)


So, what should they do? Mother moves on from her "soulmate", and prioritises her daughter (as any mother would)
And the male lead should move on, and prioritise something literally other than the "her" from 17 years ago (as anyone would)

Who am I kidding, "Oh joy, my ex from 17 years ago I get to finally be with again", and they lived happily ever after
(Except the real Dad, he's in hell or something, for stopping soulmates)

Don't get me wrong, I'm a bit of a hopeless romantic, but I can't respect someone who uses others, I wouldn't put that person past harping their child of "Do you love me? Say you love me"

My personal view on couple of the points you made is one on the point of the ml not moving on. Will say for this certain things in stories I don't judge the same as I would judge in real life. Like the ml not moving on those 17 years in story terms I can respect it in him showing how genuine and deep his love is for her. If this scenario was in real life I wouldn't feel the same for example lets say I had a friend that hasn't moved on from a girlfriend that dumped him 17 years ago I would be pushing him to move on and to an extent its pretty pathetic if that was case it would be one thing of not moving on from a dead lover but to still keep lingering feelings for person who dumped you is different. Reason I don't feel same way about story is we learn the circumstances why she chose to break up for him and me personally storyline can appreciate the genuineness of his feelings for that he's kept all this time.

As for point you feel its using him reaching out to him in their time of need. Will say she reached out to him out of desperation since they were pretty much homeless and seems she has no other options. Doesn't seem like she had any other family or friends to reach out to in time of need. She was single mother for 17 years and only went to him when she had no other options her character is about not wanting to be burden on others and if she was single still pretty sure her character would of chosen to be homeless instead of reaching out but for her daughter's sake she reached out to only person she had some connection with the ex boyfriend she dumped and again dumped him to not be a burden on him. Same with first point I would feel different if this was real life for example if an ex girlfriend approaches me many years later saying her and her kid need help some thoughts would go through my head of why not reach out to someone else or are they trying to scam me many of those thoughts go through my head since I don't know what's going through their head and heart while in this story we know the fml perspective and type person she is.

Lastly of your point feeling if the daughter has respect for her dead dad she wouldn't support them getting together as I explained in earlier post seems reason the fml got with her husband seems to be marriage of convenience scenario where he was someone who took care of her and seems she feels indebted to him for that. Secondly in the end of the day even though kid will prefer their parents to be together but when you get older and more mature you learn to respect who makes there parents happy and treat them well. If the parent wants to find new love its natural the kids will be against that but if you want to be happy you consider allowing be with who makes them happy.

 

[67User67]

lets say I had a friend that hasn't moved on from a girlfriend that dumped him 17 years ago its pretty pathetic.
genuineness of his feelings for that he's kept all this time.

she has no other options.
Doesn't seem like she had any other family or friends to reach out to in time of need.
dumped him to not be a burden on him.
if an ex approaches me many years later are they trying to scam me

if you want to be happy you consider allowing be with who makes them happy.

Nobody but her ex could help her, that she dumped to "not be a burden", contrived premise, I'd rather kill myself
Romance built on desperation isn't healthy, goes for using someone or never moving on

 

[zachary145]

I agree with all negative about the fml methaporically speaking it like the MC has a car got stolen then someone manage to return it years later all busted up,automatically it is better to get a new one than keeping the old busted up car,even the sister has concerns for her brother's decision of accepting them to his home rather than helping them find a affordable home,I wish for the MC to move on with her and finding someone to give him a brand new inspiration for his art that will stay with him for better or for worse,FML has a weak heart that lead her to that choices and should focus on making her daughter's life better rather to pursue lost time for her past love.

 

[zachary145]

I will come back this if the author make FML to stop leeching on MC there is still a possibility the author could make the MC drunk while meeting her after 3 yrs of the break up going home from her work and MC just forgot what happened.🤞🏻🤞🏻

 

[JaunD.]

They loved each other and yet didn't communicate or solve their worries together. 17 years later after leaving without any words, the fml returned with her problems. Yeah, very wholesome relationship right there.

 

[art200210]

It's painful to read, seeing how he’s been stuck in the same place for 17 years. It’s pathetic. She moved on and lived her life (even got dihed down enough to have a kid), while he just stayed there, rotting in regret and doing absolutely nothing with his love life. Watching his lack of spine makes me want to punch him through the screen.

 

[Fapeyebee]

Such a great manga. I like the slow burn and how those two are slowly reconnecting romantically. I bet the spirit of her late husband would give them his approval if they can contact the dead lol