Henkyou Gurashi no Maou, Tensei shite Saikyou no Majutsushi ni naru - Vol. 4 Ch. 17 - Former Demon Lord, Arrive

[MangaDex]

 

[Endominus]

The world-building in this series is... painful. "Is that one of those magical silver foxes that can turn into humans?" "Yes, but there's no way it has enough mana to turn into a human!" Then why do they think those foxes can turn into humans? Why does every chapter make it sound like everyone in this world is an idiot? Like that teacher (whose betrayal no one could have possibly seen coming) flipping out and trying to kill his meal ticket as soon as the slightest hitch occured in his plan.

I know that a lot of manga just push the same old tired tropes (gotta get that harem going, right? We got the princess, the maid, and now the beast-girl; any takers on the next one? My money's on tsundere knight) but I have to ask if people actually want that. Is there someone who just refuses to read a manga if the main character isn't just unassailably strong, but also has a coterie of women fawning over him constantly?

I wouldn't be half as annoyed if the mangaka more often than not has no idea what to do with the harem after they're established, instead just adding new girls like the MC is a goddamn pokemon training out to catch 'em all. So all we're left with is a bunch of paper-thin NPCs hovering around a dude who palpably, obviously, has no actual romantic interest in any of them. And when you know that every character is going to exist just to glorify the MC, there's no reason to read the piece for the characters. And when the lore is so shallow and contradictory, there's no reason to read it to immerse yourself in an interesting world. And when the plot is formulaic- well, you get the pattern.

There are ways to make this plot interesting. Novel. I really wish the mangaka actually did, instead of rehashing the same ground half of all isekais seem to go over. Immediate mastery of any magic the MC sees. The MC is the only person that thinks of using magic to benefit people generally. Immediate trust (and love, we know it's going there) from all the women around him. Status menus - fuck, I hate status menus. Should've stopped right there. That's the first sign of shit world-building.

Now I'm just cranky and ranting. Whatever. If you like the series, don't take this as an indictment of you. I just keep hoping for new stories, new ideas, and hate being disappointed so often. It's fine if this is the kind of thing you like.

 

[Speed509]

The world-building in this series is... painful. "Is that one of those magical silver foxes that can turn into humans?" "Yes, but there's no way it has enough mana to turn into a human!" Then why do they think those foxes can turn into humans? Why does every chapter make it sound like everyone in this world is an idiot? Like that teacher (whose betrayal no one could have possibly seen coming) flipping out and trying to kill his meal ticket as soon as the slightest hitch occured in his plan.

I know that a lot of manga just push the same old tired tropes (gotta get that harem going, right? We got the princess, the maid, and now the beast-girl; any takers on the next one? My money's on tsundere knight) but I have to ask if people actually want that. Is there someone who just refuses to read a manga if the main character isn't just unassailably strong, but also has a coterie of women fawning over him constantly?

I wouldn't be half as annoyed if the mangaka more often than not has no idea what to do with the harem after they're established, instead just adding new girls like the MC is a goddamn pokemon training out to catch 'em all. So all we're left with is a bunch of paper-thin NPCs hovering around a dude who palpably, obviously, has no actual romantic interest in any of them. And when you know that every character is going to exist just to glorify the MC, there's no reason to read the piece for the characters. And when the lore is so shallow and contradictory, there's no reason to read it to immerse yourself in an interesting world. And when the plot is formulaic- well, you get the pattern.

There are ways to make this plot interesting. Novel. I really wish the mangaka actually did, instead of rehashing the same ground half of all isekais seem to go over. Immediate mastery of any magic the MC sees. The MC is the only person that thinks of using magic to benefit people generally. Immediate trust (and love, we know it's going there) from all the women around him. Status menus - fuck, I hate status menus. Should've stopped right there. That's the first sign of shit world-building.

Now I'm just cranky and ranting. Whatever. If you like the series, don't take this as an indictment of you. I just keep hoping for new stories, new ideas, and hate being disappointed so often. It's fine if this is the kind of thing you like.

For the fox one, I think it's like a belief, y'know like how people believed that people with a birth mark were witches or something. I know this is not the best example, but people believe things that logically makes no sense.

Or maybe that they do change into humans but it's rare since they usually don't have enough mana, but there's those talented few.

 

[lordb1]

The world-building in this series is... painful. "Is that one of those magical silver foxes that can turn into humans?" "Yes, but there's no way it has enough mana to turn into a human!" Then why do they think those foxes can turn into humans? Why does every chapter make it sound like everyone in this world is an idiot? Like that teacher (whose betrayal no one could have possibly seen coming) flipping out and trying to kill his meal ticket as soon as the slightest hitch occured in his plan.

I know that a lot of manga just push the same old tired tropes (gotta get that harem going, right? We got the princess, the maid, and now the beast-girl; any takers on the next one? My money's on tsundere knight) but I have to ask if people actually want that. Is there someone who just refuses to read a manga if the main character isn't just unassailably strong, but also has a coterie of women fawning over him constantly?

I wouldn't be half as annoyed if the mangaka more often than not has no idea what to do with the harem after they're established, instead just adding new girls like the MC is a goddamn pokemon training out to catch 'em all. So all we're left with is a bunch of paper-thin NPCs hovering around a dude who palpably, obviously, has no actual romantic interest in any of them. And when you know that every character is going to exist just to glorify the MC, there's no reason to read the piece for the characters. And when the lore is so shallow and contradictory, there's no reason to read it to immerse yourself in an interesting world. And when the plot is formulaic- well, you get the pattern.

There are ways to make this plot interesting. Novel. I really wish the mangaka actually did, instead of rehashing the same ground half of all isekais seem to go over. Immediate mastery of any magic the MC sees. The MC is the only person that thinks of using magic to benefit people generally. Immediate trust (and love, we know it's going there) from all the women around him. Status menus - fuck, I hate status menus. Should've stopped right there. That's the first sign of shit world-building.

Now I'm just cranky and ranting. Whatever. If you like the series, don't take this as an indictment of you. I just keep hoping for new stories, new ideas, and hate being disappointed so often. It's fine if this is the kind of thing you like.

For the fox, they write it off for a few reasons. Just cause it's silver doesn't mean it's that type of fox. The human-changing fox according to what was said is too powerful to be made into a familiar which the MC just did. Basically, they convinced themselves it's not that type of fox when it's totally going to be that type of fox.

The teacher was half extorting the Baron who was a NEW Baron not from a long line of Nobles with promises of "you let me teach your son and your family is sure to raise in the Noble ranks" and as soon as Zeros failed the exam the douche tutor's plan fell apart so he decided to kill everyone involved.

If you don't like the manga no one is forcing you to read it.

 

[AnotherDuck]

We got the princess, the maid, and now the beast-girl; any takers on the next one?

Not including the duke's daughter?

In this case, I think it's enough with one waifu and a the maid as a mistress. Or maybe just the maid if he goes rogue/adventurer, but I kinda doubt that.

If you don't like the manga no one is forcing you to read it.

If you don't like a comment no one's forcing you to read and respond to it. And you could try to actually read the whole post you're responding to, since your response is already covered.

Edit: Yup, hypocritical as I assumed. Only you are allowed to tell others to not comment or read.