Herami Shimai wa Docchi mo Yanderu - Vol. 4 Ch. 18

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What are you on about?

Sera did what had to be done, lets keep it so real. That relationship, was toxic, plain and simple. Kira was constantly reminding her how inferior she felt to her despite literally being in a famous idol group...

And Sera failed to ever tell her how her auditions are going in reality because Kira would play into her superiority complex by feeding her constant compliments and also be more assertive than her, all but stopping any progress on getting out of the unhealthy cycle, and also to an extent not wanting to hurt her, which is noble, but again, just continues the cycle.

Love or hate her, Himuro telling Sera to finally break the ceiling on the actual reality of the matter to her younger sister was the only way that cycle would finally break, there's family matters and then matters that need external assistance (therapy, but aince most cant afford that, sometimes friends and other family members are considered).

This falls so heavily beyond what the two of them couldve solved by themselves, so while Himuro couldve been better with her approach, she did what had to be done, and Sera finally managed to break the cycle.

I fail to see what Sera did wrong there by finally breaking the truth to her honestly.
You really out here acting like Himuro has done something good, when all she has done is being a manipulative bitch🤦🏼‍♂️ Do explain how you somehow say Kira and Sera was toxic relationship, but somehow think what Himuro have done is good, when it is literally the same and even worse than what Kira have been doing…

Again since you think Himuro have done something so good for Sera, then let these bitches have a miserable manipulative relationship for the rest of their lifes, while Kira actually find someone that cares for her instead of her trash sister
 
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You didn't understood anything, huh
Understand that Sera is a trash sister that would rather be manipulated by some random bitch she have just met than have anything to do with her sister that loves her more than anyone else in the world.
 
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It is kind of incredible that Kira had not noticed that she surpassed Sera in basically every way. I guess that's what love can do. Anyways, they should kiss and make up.
 
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You really out here acting like Himuro has done something good, when all she has done is being a manipulative bitch🤦🏼‍♂️ Do explain how you somehow say Kira and Sera was toxic relationship, but somehow think what Himuro have done is good, when it is literally the same and even worse than what Kira have been doing…

Again since you think Himuro have done something so good for Sera, then let these bitches have a miserable manipulative relationship for the rest of their lifes, while Kira actually find someone that cares for her instead of her trash sister
Did you read what I said? I said it was toxic as they feed into each other's complexes. For Sera, its Kira complimenting her constantly, which feeds into her superiority complex that Sera has, which has been shown throughout the story. And by proxy, due to failing to tell her that she (Kira) has surpassed her, she feeds into Kira's feeling of inferiority, despite the evidemt difference in success they have, causing her (Kira) to have the delusion that they'll have a unit together.

The reason that delusion is even festering is because Sera has failed to be honest to Kira throughout nearly the entire story up to that stage, which would likely happen if she wasnt in the toxic cycle of being complimented to death, and by proxy, her (Sera) feeding into Kira's delusion thus muddying the chance of finally breaking it.

Also yes, Himuro is manipulative at stages, but I feel that in that moment, while in a way she wanted Kira for herself, this was also partially to get her to finally realise how they've been doing things is only gonna hurt them down the road, so two birds, one stone really. I believe she mentions before she confronts her on the scenario that she was starting to get tired of her ruining the Idol group's vibe indirectly by having Kira more focused on her sister than the group, so safe to say, this was coming eventually, and I feel it was desperately needed.

I implore you to actually read what I typed this time, because I already explained all this to you in that last reply, but you ignored it and asked me a question I already answered before and started sperging out about Himuro being a manipulative bitch instead, which has little relation to what I argued.

As for Kira, obviously yeah, she isnt massively at fault to falling into delusion due to her sister not making things very clear, but something had to be done about that unhealthy relationship, and if a hard to swallow pill was the way to do it, then so be it. I still struggle to see how Sera was the horrible person there for simply clearing up the toxic scenario that's been festering for years.
 
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This isn't therapy yet but it's at least a slightly more positive direction for her. But please author, give Sera therapy, she needs it
If this were reality, both sisters would really need therapy, yes. HOWEVER, stories where the characters get therapy are very difficult to write so that they're actually interesting to read...
The reason people like yandere characters is that everything falls to pieces and also the fact that It's Not Reality. Yandere characters in reality are quite terrifying. Yandere characters in fictional stories are extremely interesting to read about. Especially if they're well written (like I hope this one continues to be).
 
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Did you read what I said? I said it was toxic as they feed into each other's complexes. For Sera, its Kira complimenting her constantly, which feeds into her superiority complex that Sera has, which has been shown throughout the story. And by proxy, due to failing to tell her that she (Kira) has surpassed her, she feeds into Kira's feeling of inferiority, despite the evidemt difference in success they have, causing her (Kira) to have the delusion that they'll have a unit together.

The reason that delusion is even festering is because Sera has failed to be honest to Kira throughout nearly the entire story up to that stage, which would likely happen if she wasnt in the toxic cycle of being complimented to death, and by proxy, her (Sera) feeding into Kira's delusion thus muddying the chance of finally breaking it.

Also yes, Himuro is manipulative at stages, but I feel that in that moment, while in a way she wanted Kira for herself, this was also partially to get her to finally realise how they've been doing things is only gonna hurt them down the road, so two birds, one stone really. I believe she mentions before she confronts her on the scenario that she was starting to get tired of her ruining the Idol group's vibe indirectly by having Kira more focused on her sister than the group, so safe to say, this was coming eventually, and I feel it was desperately needed.

I implore you to actually read what I typed this time, because I already explained all this to you in that last reply, but you ignored it and asked me a question I already answered before and started sperging out about Himuro being a manipulative bitch instead, which has little relation to what I argued.

As for Kira, obviously yeah, she isnt massively at fault to falling into delusion due to her sister not making things very clear, but something had to be done about that unhealthy relationship, and if a hard to swallow pill was the way to do it, then so be it. I still struggle to see how Sera was the horrible person there for simply clearing up the toxic scenario that's been festering for years.
All you wrote doesnt change the fact that Sera is a trash sister for choosing a manipulative bitch over her own sister. All she had to do what actually talk with kira, but no, it was apparently easier for her to betray her the way that would hurt her the most instead.

Sera and the bitch is the 2 trash characters in this series so far and Kira deserves someone that cares for her (hell even her trash group memore care more about Kira than her own trash sister)…
 
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All you wrote doesnt change the fact that Sera is a trash sister for choosing a manipulative bitch over her own sister. All she had to do what actually talk with kira, but no, it was apparently easier for her to betray her the way that would hurt her the most instead.

Sera and the bitch is the 2 trash characters in this series so far and Kira deserves someone that cares for her (hell even her trash group memore care more about Kira than her own trash sister)…
Huh? I get the feeling again, you didnt read what I said. Talking to Kira was just not gonna happen due to the toxic positivity cycle they find themselves in... as ive said before, this was a matter that evidently had gone beyond simple family matters as it was going nowhere due to Sera not being assertive enough, and Kira falling into deeper delusion due to that lack of assertiveness from Sera, Himuro says this herself when she confronts Sera about it, I just went back to read it just so im not tripping.

Himuro, from that convo Kira had with her in Chapter 14, noticed that something was up and stepped in herself because she was worried for what that delusional idea would cause if it kept going, so she kept it real: That a sister unit wasnt gonna be possible.

The short and sweet of it is that Sera is too old for Idol jobs, they usually acquire teens for that kind of thing. She is 26. Thats way past retirement stage in that industry.

And in that same confrontation, she mentions that bad things would evidently happen if Kira finds out she cant join any groups, and thus, that their dream wouldnt be possible, and asks her if she's ready to be the bearer of responsibility if that happens. And I get the feeling she wouldve absolutely said more had Serapi not interrupted and attempted to rush her decision to join her group and also finally resolve their toxicity.

Lets face it, and you can scapegoat Himuro as the devil incarnate, but she very much got to the point and didnt sugarcoat it: It was not healthy for either of them, and she had to do something about it. And she (Sera) did.
She first took some time away as she was slowly realising the issue at hand, and then when confronted, while finally able to muster her assertiveness, she finally puts her foot down and lays the reality on her.

Somehow, in your special world, thats a betrayal that somehow makes Sera a horrible person. Fucking how 😂, she simply did what was necessary, the toxic cycle was not gonna end if she kept circling around the issue like she had up to this stage.

I feel like ironically this story is perfect for you if you somehow saw nothing wrong with all the stuff going on here, and blame Himuro for calling the shitshow out for what it is and Sera finally doing what she shouldve instead of the actual toxicity on display.

I seriously await how you'll somehow spin this as Sera being uncaring, at worst, she's unstable, but trying her best despite the absolute nerves she mustve had to even break the ceiling on the reality of the situation they were in. She aint perfect, but who is to be fair?

I feel in a sense, this is a wait and see honestly, best to figure out where this goes before any final judgements can be made on the family matter, but thats just the complexity of family matters: It can get messy, but in the end, something has to give at some stage.

If your next reply is just gonna double down, then im not reading that delusional dribble. Evidently the fucked nature went over your head somehow despite the obvious signs.
 
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All you wrote doesnt change the fact that Sera is a trash sister for choosing a manipulative bitch over her own sister. All she had to do what actually talk with kira, but no, it was apparently easier for her to betray her the way that would hurt her the most instead.

Sera and the bitch is the 2 trash characters in this series so far and Kira deserves someone that cares for her (hell even her trash group memore care more about Kira than her own trash sister)…
I like how you purposefully ignore the fact that both Kira and Sera are not functional enough to talk this out by themselves, like you think the mental issues we have been shown are just decoration...
 
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Mmhhhh yes they're both gonna break soon enough...
I just hope the two other cunts will be caught in the aftermath and burn. Sera doesn't need another manipulative girl in her life, nor does she deserve the ire that other yandere has against her.
And I still hope Kira can finally put her back in her place, she's lived free of harm for way too long.
Thanks for the chapter!
 
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All you wrote doesnt change the fact that Sera is a trash sister for choosing a manipulative bitch over her own sister. All she had to do what actually talk with kira, but no, it was apparently easier for her to betray her the way that would hurt her the most instead.

Sera and the bitch is the 2 trash characters in this series so far and Kira deserves someone that cares for her (hell even her trash group memore care more about Kira than her own trash sister)…
You're just taking the piss yeah? Hard to believe someone genuinely believes that.
 
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The obvious problem I'm seeing is that, while all this unfolding is objectively good for both sisters because Sera has been crushed by their impossible promise and Kira needs a reality check and to see her sister for who she really is, the manga doesn't seem to portray the situation that way. In the last panel, Sera looks absolutely miserable
To be fair, its not like this will immediately lift the guilt off her shoulders, this is something that would inevitably take time before it finally dissipates. Give it some time and Id bet she'll be... maybe not completely better, but in the least she'd regret it less.
 
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Chapter 16 colored double page spread and this chapter's first page really shows poor Sera's just gonna be abused again. I at least hope her 2nd owner won't be worse than the last one.
 
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You know what Sera? I hope you live a miserable life being manipulated by that bitch everyday for the rest of it.
Kira I hope you find someone way better than your trash sister that actually cares about you and will make you happy.
I wish you guys would cut the above commenter a break. He/She's clearly a Kira stan who is mad as hell about what just happened. ;-;
 
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I wish you guys would cut the above commenter a break. He/She's clearly a Kira stan who is mad as hell about what just happened. ;-;
Looking at past replies, for older chapters... yeah they stanning Kira crazy, even though in a way, she's contributed to the toxic cycle...

Kira does need help, Sera too, but lets keep it so deadass, Sera is not as horrid as he claims 💀
 
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I wish you guys would cut the above commenter a break. He/She's clearly a Kira stan who is mad as hell about what just happened. ;-;
Nah, not a fan of any of these characters, but so far the only one that is not trash is Kira, who simply loves her sister more than anything. Sera on the other hand decided to throw her sister away for a girl that she just met and that she should be able to see is simply a manipulative bitch…

Quite concerning how so many people think the manipulative bitch is the good girl here🤦🏼‍♂️
 
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You're just taking the piss yeah? Hard to believe someone genuinely believes that.
Hard to believe you somehow dont believe that after reading the story where its clear to see that the girl is a manipulative bitch and where Sera clearly did what she knows would hurt her sister the most
 
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Woah! Ive said this before and ill say it again, Kyapi is a fantastic example on how to manipulate someone really well!
 
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PLEEEASE super important girl that i forgot the name of,
PLEEEASE BE OUR SAVIOR AND TEACH THIS DUMB MANIPULATIVE WHORE A LESSON I BEGGG!!!!

I bet that Kyapi was somewhat like that when she was friends with the super important girl that I forgot the name of too, and thats why she hates her now... Wow! Shes just a massive bitch after all!

Heh... Though I guessed from the moment she said "when I saw Sera something something shed make big banks online" that shed just use and manipulate her for clout
 
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Poor Sera. That choker necklace symbolism was savage. Exchange one master for another. One evil for another. One collar for another. Girl's like a rescue dog being dragged from one family to another, only to end up killed because they had to make place in the shelter 💀
 

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