Hime Koukan ～Otasaa no Hime ga Kareshi Koukan wo Goshomou na Ken～ - Vol. 2 Ch. 13 - Come Over Here
- Thread starter MangaDex
- Start date
Active member
- Joined
- Jul 22, 2018
- Messages
- 174
so, when are they all gonna start mutually banging each other, like a solid friend group should?
Fed-Kun's army
- Joined
- Nov 23, 2018
- Messages
- 1,406
@attractdistract seen some raws
they start swapping in a couple of chapters
Dex-chan lover
- Joined
- Jan 20, 2018
- Messages
- 8,026
What the fuck is he crying for? because he didn't got to cuck his friend at the drop of a hat? what a hypocrite.
Well now everyone is using everyone else as a replacement.
The thot put in the work and i guess she will have her way with one more push.
Well now everyone is using everyone else as a replacement.
The thot put in the work and i guess she will have her way with one more push.
Member
- Joined
- Feb 24, 2020
- Messages
- 61
@Starbright Probably should spoiler tag that comment.
@Doomroar Susa might be the worst one of the four. I’m giving him a small pass because he still trying to sort through the swinging stuff but it’s clear he wants to have his cake and eat it too.
Still find it funny that Saku and Miko’s relationship is arguably more stable than Sasu and Amane. Saku and Miko communicate with each other and they know where they stand with each other. Susa and Amane still won’t really talk to each other about couple swapping even though both are interested in doing it.
@Doomroar Susa might be the worst one of the four. I’m giving him a small pass because he still trying to sort through the swinging stuff but it’s clear he wants to have his cake and eat it too.
Still find it funny that Saku and Miko’s relationship is arguably more stable than Sasu and Amane. Saku and Miko communicate with each other and they know where they stand with each other. Susa and Amane still won’t really talk to each other about couple swapping even though both are interested in doing it.
Dex-chan lover
- Joined
- Jan 20, 2018
- Messages
- 8,026
@TrainsHateTrucks Saku and Miko seem to have been thinking about it for a while, Saku is a well known cuck his porn magazines are all about NTR, and Miko surelly knows this and is trying to capitalize.
Meanwhile Sasu and Amane are just now getting into the idea, with that said the 180 turn on Sasu disgusts me and even worse he is trying to pass himself as the victim, even if he got played he shouldn't expect the woman he turned down to go and jump at his dick after the lame spectacle he did last time.
Meanwhile Sasu and Amane are just now getting into the idea, with that said the 180 turn on Sasu disgusts me and even worse he is trying to pass himself as the victim, even if he got played he shouldn't expect the woman he turned down to go and jump at his dick after the lame spectacle he did last time.
Member
- Joined
- Feb 24, 2020
- Messages
- 61
@Doomroar I totally believe Miko when she says she doesn’t find Susa attractive at all except for his dick, especially after that last time.
Susa wants to have sex with Miko as an alpha/self-esteem boost because he puts her on a pedestal. Amane might be down for full swapping but it’s hard to tell for sure because they don’t really communicate with each other. Maybe they finally will now if Susa has a bit of self-awareness.
Susa wants to have sex with Miko as an alpha/self-esteem boost because he puts her on a pedestal. Amane might be down for full swapping but it’s hard to tell for sure because they don’t really communicate with each other. Maybe they finally will now if Susa has a bit of self-awareness.
Active member
- Joined
- Jul 22, 2018
- Messages
- 174
@Starbright ayyyy that's what i'm talkin' about!
@raze2012
Doubt. We read the same manga, he was turned on by being called "better" than his supposed friend. He was supposed to meet his actual girlfriend at the time he was masturbating in a closet. He was ready and willing to cheat on his girlfriend THE MOMENT he thought he had a shot. Miko is not a great person, but to say she's taking advantage of him is a stretch.
Guy has low self esteem, I get that, he's also a weasel.
At the same time, Amane isn't really that different either, she clearly parallels Susa. While we haven't had much focus on her character, she clearly pines for Saku and sees Susa as consolation. The only difference between them is that she's gotten to first base with her crush. She would absolutely cheat if she had the opportunity.
The sooner you learn they're all bad, the better the story gets.
Doubt. We read the same manga, he was turned on by being called "better" than his supposed friend. He was supposed to meet his actual girlfriend at the time he was masturbating in a closet. He was ready and willing to cheat on his girlfriend THE MOMENT he thought he had a shot. Miko is not a great person, but to say she's taking advantage of him is a stretch.
Guy has low self esteem, I get that, he's also a weasel.
At the same time, Amane isn't really that different either, she clearly parallels Susa. While we haven't had much focus on her character, she clearly pines for Saku and sees Susa as consolation. The only difference between them is that she's gotten to first base with her crush. She would absolutely cheat if she had the opportunity.
The sooner you learn they're all bad, the better the story gets.
All that said, I still expect a wholesome ending considering the author's previous work up until now. Susa and Amane learn they were just in love with the fantasy of the other and begin to figure out what they truly want in a partner, the both start communicating better, maybe continue swinging, happy end.
Dex-chan lover
- Joined
- Jun 8, 2018
- Messages
- 1,659
@vannn funny thing about stories, we can read the same thing and interpret things completely differently.
1) dude already had a fucking rager even before being thrown in the closet. I don't think his "win" over Sakuya was the only thing he was getting off of.
2) I don't think it's "weasely" to have an inferiority complex to someone and then realize you may in fact have your own upsides. even if it's as shallow as literal dick size. It's your reaction to that that makes you a good/bad person, and I don't see Susa suddenly power tripping and holding that fact over Sakuya's head (no pun intended). Right now, the dude's just as seemingly conflicted as Amane in his feelings, and is still processing them. He very obviously felt guilty given the end, so it's not like he is purposely plotting anything atm.
Probably just polarization the internet normally does. They are flawed characters, not necessarily bad/evil ones. This isn't mean girls where everyone is trying to backstab one another. Quite the opposite. Just characters that, gasp, sometimes have impure/immoral thoughts concerning what if's but want to maintain some sense of normalcy.
1) dude already had a fucking rager even before being thrown in the closet. I don't think his "win" over Sakuya was the only thing he was getting off of.
2) I don't think it's "weasely" to have an inferiority complex to someone and then realize you may in fact have your own upsides. even if it's as shallow as literal dick size. It's your reaction to that that makes you a good/bad person, and I don't see Susa suddenly power tripping and holding that fact over Sakuya's head (no pun intended). Right now, the dude's just as seemingly conflicted as Amane in his feelings, and is still processing them. He very obviously felt guilty given the end, so it's not like he is purposely plotting anything atm.
Probably just polarization the internet normally does. They are flawed characters, not necessarily bad/evil ones. This isn't mean girls where everyone is trying to backstab one another. Quite the opposite. Just characters that, gasp, sometimes have impure/immoral thoughts concerning what if's but want to maintain some sense of normalcy.
@raze2012
Dude, I get that they are flawed, never had I said they are irredeemable, but you are delusional if you think it's just "momentary immoral" thoughts. This isn't "polorizing" to me, If you feel like me saying "bad" was too loaded a term, then we'll just stick with flawed.
Susa is a flawed character, that includes BAD personality traits.
1. So you're going to ignore the dozen pages of Amane screaming how much better the idea of his dick is than Saku himself, and Susa thinking about that as he furiously masturbates? Yeah, he got off on the idea of cuckolding his friend, and was going to immediately act on it before he got shut down...
2. It is weasely to to go into hysteronics (he literally wept) when your girlfriend is unfaithful and then days later attempt to cheat. Not that Amane is any better as she used the initial misunderstanding in order to be unfaithful in the first place. They're both immature, manipulative, weasely.
Again, that doesn't mean they are corrupt, it does means they have a character arc, and they happen to start on the low end.
Susa and Amane DO NOT COMMUNICATE, they do not trust each other, they actively pine for other people, even together. And they're supposed friends are are egging on their dysfunction for sex. No one is good, it's ok to say that. They could become better, but that's yet to be seen
Is that why Miko is trying to break up a couple for some dick? This is a melodrama, not a character study.
I don't want to make this a long back and forth, and I think your response mostly hinged on my use of the word bad. Again they're not bad, as in irredeemable, but they aren't really mature enough to be doing what they are doing.
Edit: I also take back the delusional comment, kind of out of line. Apologies.
Dude, I get that they are flawed, never had I said they are irredeemable, but you are delusional if you think it's just "momentary immoral" thoughts. This isn't "polorizing" to me, If you feel like me saying "bad" was too loaded a term, then we'll just stick with flawed.
Susa is a flawed character, that includes BAD personality traits.
1. So you're going to ignore the dozen pages of Amane screaming how much better the idea of his dick is than Saku himself, and Susa thinking about that as he furiously masturbates? Yeah, he got off on the idea of cuckolding his friend, and was going to immediately act on it before he got shut down...
2. It is weasely to to go into hysteronics (he literally wept) when your girlfriend is unfaithful and then days later attempt to cheat. Not that Amane is any better as she used the initial misunderstanding in order to be unfaithful in the first place. They're both immature, manipulative, weasely.
Again, that doesn't mean they are corrupt, it does means they have a character arc, and they happen to start on the low end.
Susa and Amane DO NOT COMMUNICATE, they do not trust each other, they actively pine for other people, even together. And they're supposed friends are are egging on their dysfunction for sex. No one is good, it's ok to say that. They could become better, but that's yet to be seen
Is that why Miko is trying to break up a couple for some dick? This is a melodrama, not a character study.
I don't want to make this a long back and forth, and I think your response mostly hinged on my use of the word bad. Again they're not bad, as in irredeemable, but they aren't really mature enough to be doing what they are doing.
Edit: I also take back the delusional comment, kind of out of line. Apologies.
Also my thoughts are based on spoilers from later chapters so maybe that's where our disagreement comes from. In the latest chapters Susa is actively cheating with a third, yet to be introduced character. Susa isn't just confused, he isn't just being manipulated by Miko, he really is kind of an asshole.
Dex-chan lover
- Joined
- Jun 8, 2018
- Messages
- 1,659
@vannn
I agree on not wanting to go on a back and forth, So I'll keep it short: it's realistic. And reality is disappointing. You gotta remember these are college students only one year into their respective relationship, not married couples in their 30's years into their career. I actually really like that they are flawed characters that aren't necessarily 100% over their emotions, but overall are characters that are trying to be "good people". except Miko ofc. Sometimes a thot is a thot lol.
The thing I take reserve to all this is that (again, except for Miko) you seem to be making external character judgements from their internal thoughts and feelings, not necessarily from actions that they chose. I can't stop you from feeling how you feel, but IMO there's a difference between fantasizing being with another partner and actually going through with it. I feel being more or less forced to watch your old crush fuck, her knowing that you are watching, and literally saying she's thirsty for you is more on the latter than the former. but I can definitely see arguments to the contrary.
I could go on for paragraphs about the aftermath and Susa's feelings during that but I think I already broke my promise. Have a good one.
I agree on not wanting to go on a back and forth, So I'll keep it short: it's realistic. And reality is disappointing. You gotta remember these are college students only one year into their respective relationship, not married couples in their 30's years into their career. I actually really like that they are flawed characters that aren't necessarily 100% over their emotions, but overall are characters that are trying to be "good people". except Miko ofc. Sometimes a thot is a thot lol.
The thing I take reserve to all this is that (again, except for Miko) you seem to be making external character judgements from their internal thoughts and feelings, not necessarily from actions that they chose. I can't stop you from feeling how you feel, but IMO there's a difference between fantasizing being with another partner and actually going through with it. I feel being more or less forced to watch your old crush fuck, her knowing that you are watching, and literally saying she's thirsty for you is more on the latter than the former. but I can definitely see arguments to the contrary.
I could go on for paragraphs about the aftermath and Susa's feelings during that but I think I already broke my promise. Have a good one.
I peeked at the first part of your spoiler. OFC I can only base it on what I read so far. This can easily snowball and cause all 4 characters to really hurt each other in ways that a "hime koukan" can't solve, but it could also turn out with something healthy, albiet non-traditional. But I think talking about the morals of partner swapping in a manga literally called "girlfriend exchange" is such a skewed debate here.
I'm gonna break my promise too, though I won't tag you, if you happen to read this then cool. I don't think they're immoral for swapping, they haven't even done it yet.
Susa was explicitly going to act of those thoughts before Miko kicked him out, I'm judging that. Amane HAS acted on those thoughts, albeit to a lesser degree. They want other people, and act on it in a dishonest way. Agree to disagree
However later events really change Susa's character for the worst, so much so it recontextualizes everything that happened before without spoiling. He just...needs to grow up, but that's what makes it interesting to read for me at least.
Susa was explicitly going to act of those thoughts before Miko kicked him out, I'm judging that. Amane HAS acted on those thoughts, albeit to a lesser degree. They want other people, and act on it in a dishonest way. Agree to disagree
However later events really change Susa's character for the worst, so much so it recontextualizes everything that happened before without spoiling. He just...needs to grow up, but that's what makes it interesting to read for me at least.
Dex-chan lover
- Joined
- Sep 25, 2018
- Messages
- 753
@Malikoman exactly. Don't use Google if you're looking for pirated content. Everyone and their dog knows that google censors everything, their search engine included
@Wildfire_desu Thing is, I don't know another way. I already checked LHScans and reddit but couldn't find them. Is there another good site?
Dex-chan lover
- Joined
- Sep 25, 2018
- Messages
- 753
@Malikoman ask the scanlators themselves. You'll probably need to know how to read japanese, too. Higher chance to find what you want if you use it
Similar threads
