Hope You're Happy, Lemon - Ch. 59

[Friendly-Sentence710]

It even seems that the traumatized character is from one dimension and the current character is from another.

This was an Isekai this whole time.

 

[Snovember]

Two or three things jump put to me in this chapter.
One, comparing what @triplegks’ quote shows with the events in this chapter are quite different, and we don’t know which version of events is what happened, if either happened. During this chapter Lemon’s eyes are swollen as she breaks up (look at the bags under her eyes in the panel), so she presumably spent some time crying before.
Add to this that Akiyoshi is quite calm in comparison to chapter one I’m inclined to believe that chapter one’s events are closer to the truth, or at least events as they unfolded, and this chapter’s flashback is Akiyoshi remembering the events, with hindsight bias.
He’s had time to think things through, and probably thinks of himself as having reasonably thoughts and reactions at that time, but how true that is we may never know. Ideally we’d have a third interpretation of events, from someone besides Akiyoshi and Lemon, to compare to, but I suspect the best we’ll get is Lemon’s version as she tells Kogahara her version, at least in parts.

 

[Knighto]

Two or three things jump put to me in this chapter.
One, comparing what @triplegks’ quote shows with the events in this chapter are quite different, and we don’t know which version of events is what happened, if either happened. During this chapter Lemon’s eyes are swollen as she breaks up (look at the bags under her eyes in the panel), so she presumably spent some time crying before.
Add to this that Akiyoshi is quite calm in comparison to chapter one I’m inclined to believe that chapter one’s events are closer to the truth, or at least events as they unfolded, and this chapter’s flashback is Akiyoshi remembering the events, with hindsight bias.
He’s had time to think things through, and probably thinks of himself as having reasonably thoughts and reactions at that time, but how true that is we may never know. Ideally we’d have a third interpretation of events, from someone besides Akiyoshi and Lemon, to compare to, but I suspect the best we’ll get is Lemon’s version as she tells Kogahara her version, at least in parts.

if that happens and we get Lemon side with Akiyoshi acting like in the first chapter, that would be some good cooking by the author and would shut up a lot of the comments (myself included), but I would doubt that a little (having a stalker character and then turning her part of the gang is pretty dumb, so my bar in expectations isn't that high)

 

[ale_city]

She looked a bit older, when we've seen it the first time, so probably happened after he confronted her again 😶

Also feels bad, here he is trusting her and reacting calmly just thinking to himself she wouldn't do that and that's probably why she wanted him to stay away from her class for those malicious rumours (what he thought up to this point) and she just goes and turns the rumours into reality for him, for no reason whatsoever, instead of just also calmly talkin with him, then she just proceeds to ghost him 😐

Looking at that she really doesn't deserve a second chance in my eyes, wouldn't know how you could possibly trust her again

We still haven't gotten the full side of the story on her end, just Sunao's, to me it seems Lemon was bullied into breaking up with Sunao, into distancing from him. Then the silence happened, on Sunao's end it seems that led to it ruminating and reverberating in his mind.

I hope the flashback does NOT end next chapter, I hope we get a parallel story flashback from Lemon, I want to know the truth behind the lie, what happened in her middle school class. It seems although she didn't get into any relationships either, her highschool experience was more positive.

She made mistakes, we aren't denying that. I don't want her to get a second chance, but I want to see the story progress and that both Sunao and Lemon can let go and be happy each in their own paths. I root for Sunao finally approaching Natsumi as more than a friend.

 

[Haru_2]

She looked a bit older, when we've seen it the first time, so probably happened after he confronted her again 😶

Also feels bad, here he is trusting her and reacting calmly just thinking to himself she wouldn't do that and that's probably why she wanted him to stay away from her class for those malicious rumours (what he thought up to this point) and she just goes and turns the rumours into reality for him, for no reason whatsoever, instead of just also calmly talkin with him, then she just proceeds to ghost him 😐

Looking at that she really doesn't deserve a second chance in my eyes, wouldn't know how you could possibly trust her again

cant really blame her tbh since this is middle school

 

[Throwawail]

but it was the talk with Sunao Friend about how Sunao said he would never date again after the break up that made Lemon talk with Sunao about the past, if Sunao wasn't traumatized the motive for the talk and flashback won't exist anymore, and the recent chapters won't make sense

That's true. Maybe I've forgotten, but the change doesn't seemed to have been addressed.
I only remember early Sunao (panicking, writing date diaries) and then later easy-going Sunao.

 

[Phelgming]

Everyone's talking about "retcons" like new information/perspective we've never had before is changing events.

On comparing the first chapter's event's with the flashback: a few days ago, I had a nightmare about a ghost murdering one of my friends. That said, I distinctly remember her not being murdered by a ghost. What's more reliable: my nightmare or my memory? Sunao had a nightmare about a woman he hadn't spoken to in ~4 years and people are still using that as the basis for all of their views on Lemon almost 60 chapters later. We still don't even know everything about what happened during that time and it sounds like a LOT happened.

Stuff is still happening. Quit jumping the gun.

 

[middle-the-nerd]

She looked a bit older, when we've seen it the first time, so probably happened after he confronted her again 😶

Also feels bad, here he is trusting her and reacting calmly just thinking to himself she wouldn't do that and that's probably why she wanted him to stay away from her class for those malicious rumours (what he thought up to this point) and she just goes and turns the rumours into reality for him, for no reason whatsoever, instead of just also calmly talkin with him, then she just proceeds to ghost him 😐

Looking at that she really doesn't deserve a second chance in my eyes, wouldn't know how you could possibly trust her again

I mean tbf they were in middle school who the hell is emotionally mature or reasonable during that time in there life? What she did was absolutely fucked up no denying that but I don't think it's fully fair to expect a middle schooler to always handle there emotions and relationships properly especially when we don't know what she was going through

Now not saying he doesn't have a right to have resentment over it he absolutely does but they're both now at a point in life where they're more mature and can actually properly talk about what happened and possibly able to mend there relationship if he wants to I think she very much could earn a second chance if she takes responsibility

 

[middle-the-nerd]

I'm not gonna say what she did wasn't fucked up it was 100% but I
I just can't agree with people thinking she doesn't deserve a second chance to make things right

They were in fucking MIDDLE SCHOOL it's understandable if she for some reason horribly mishandled it all

Sometimes good people do shitty things and middle schoolers usually do stupid things

 

[Ninoren]

Now not saying he doesn't have a right to have resentment over it he absolutely does but they're both now at a point in life where they're more mature and can actually properly talk about what happened and possibly able to mend there relationship if he wants to I think she very much could earn a second chance if she takes responsibility

Talking of responsibility..

She literally acted like it never happened in the first place, also still convinced the body swapping is something she caused by doing something 😶

And if she really had cared that much about him, it'd doubt that's something you COULD forget, if you intentionally hurt a partner, that is if she actually had feelings for him

 

[Turkeyjerkey]

I feel like the author changed their mind halfway through and retconned what happened. Maybe out of fear Lemon would come off as unsympathetic? This doesn't really line up with how they reacted at the start. The beginning is pretty dishonest now and a fair bit of the drama has been sucked out of it.