Horobi no Kuni no Seifukusha - Vol. 4 Ch. 19 - Kuran

[SunSun]

I'm so tired of this stereotypical cringe from manga and anime. The Catholic church is always evil or there's a religious order that is very obviously the Catholic church and its evil. It's lazy writing, that's all it is.

Side note: Anyone else see the whole "England is an island nation and we're an island nation therfore England is the good guy" thing or is it just me?

Japan and the UK had friendly relations up until the end of WW1 when Japan felt they got shafted out of promised territories.

The IJN even got battleship Kongou from the British.

 

[Strela]

Man, this irked me too much, I guess the memory of having to read dogshit fantasy novel that ripping off the witcher and european map still fresh in my mind.

 

[Aethelwulf001]

Japan and the UK had friendly relations up until the end of WW1 when Japan felt they got shafted out of promised territories.

The IJN even got battleship Kongou from the British.

That would check out.

 

[EldritchNeko]

With how he drew a line through the main island, not the westward one (Ireland-equivalent), I think they're supposed to be Scots.

You may well be correct. I based my comment on the "half the country is associated with the mainstream religion of the continent and the other half isn't" bit. I honestly don't know enough about European geography to assess beyond that. I'm more knowledgeable about politics and divisions (not in-depth or for everywhere, mind you, just some things).

 

[lowarctic]

You may well be correct. I based my comment on the "half the country is associated with the mainstream religion of the continent and the other half isn't" bit. I honestly don't know enough about European geography to assess beyond that. I'm more knowledgeable about politics and divisions (not in-depth or for everywhere, mind you, just some things).

also the closest real life parallel based on geography and time period wouldn’t be Protestants, but Lollards, who were a heretical pre-Protestant (~1300-1600) Catholic reform movement based in England

the closest parallel based on religious and ethnic tolerance would be the Muslim Spain (~700-1400), who expressly allowed Jews and Christians to practice for an additional tax unlike Catholic kingdoms

 

[Sp12er]

I know that not everybody can't be J.R.R.Tolkien but just copy paste every single detail of the real world is just lazy and uninspired.

She literally said their version of Jesus and Catholic came out 2000 years ago.

Personally, for me having a simple copy of earth is actually a unique setup than most, as it simply imply that the mc have way more geographical knowledge than most people there, heck, most medieval maps are quite inaccurate.
You'll see soon why it's quite a big advantage for him, and why such an advantage is needed when his race is already at their back foot.

 

[EldritchNeko]

also the closest real life parallel based on geography and time period wouldn’t be Protestants, but Lollards, who were a heretical pre-Protestant (~1300-1600) Catholic reform movement based in England

the closest parallel based on religious and ethnic tolerance would be the Muslim Spain (~700-1400), who expressly allowed Jews and Christians to practice for an additional tax unlike Catholic kingdoms

Wasn't Constantinople/Istanbul pretty decent in terms of religious tolerance too? I remember reading about multiple religious structures that had different areas for muslims, christians, and jews, all in the same building. Pretty sure there wasn't an additional tax either, though I really don't know much about that for certain (that particular piece of knowledge comes from database entries in Assassin's Creed: Revelations, which largely takes place in that city).

PS: I'm learning a fair bit from you. Thank you.

 

[lowarctic]

Wasn't Constantinople/Istanbul pretty decent in terms of religious tolerance too? I remember reading about multiple religious structures that had different areas for muslims, christians, and jews, all in the same building. Pretty sure there wasn't an additional tax either, though I really don't know much about that for certain (that particular piece of knowledge comes from database entries in Assassin's Creed: Revelations, which largely takes place in that city).

PS: I'm learning a fair bit from you. Thank you.

yes, but Ottoman Empire was farther in terms of geography and time period (Revelations takes place in 1511, after the medieval period ended) than Muslim Spain (Al-Andalus)

Islamic states historically imposed a tax called jizya on non-Muslims derived from passages in the Quran in exchange for exemption from military service and the freedom to practice their own religion, and as a result were often more tolerant than their contemporary Christian counterparts

 

[MonstaMaps]

Ngl, this chapter was beyond cringe to read, and seemed very low effort work by the author...
Like you can't be bothered to make up religions, regions and what not of your own fantasy world? like really?
You just go for a carbon copy of irl stuff and just add a letter or two? Like seriously? You Open up with hawk riding and interesting ranching of them and other interesting creatures in the first chapters and then you hit us with this copy pasta, low effort, second hand embarrassment?
The world map is just our world map just with some areas stretched out, the religions are literally just our religions just with 2 extra letters, then you just copy paste the crusades, like you don't even put in effort into it to such a degree that you just call Britain Albion which is literally just how the Greeks used to call the place in around the 4th century, this went from quite interesting to low tier low effort drivel in literally handful of chapters, insane. No wonder the translators before dropped this, i would as well if i would come from such a strong start into this... Drivel.
I'm beyond disappointed in this, i don't even know why as i wasn't even that invested in this or why this is still in my "reading" tab as i DESPISE school arcs.

it is not really any different to other inspirations. i've read so many manga that use greek mythology or roman or norse.. amount of cerberus and fenrir to last a life time.

 

[MonstaMaps]

Modern day western societies are pretty much the exception to that rule.

hahahahahahaha